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This is bullshit. It obviously depend on the size of the windfall. $1M? $500M?

NOTHING is everything, but money will buy you most things.

First of all, I think many of these ppl are saying what they think that ppl want to hear.

For the most part, work sucks, esp when one works for corporate or academic America. Many ppl would rather do their hobbies like fixing cars, playing a guitar, seeing escort gals, etc.

The only exception to this rule would be let's say being a judge, where one exerts a certain amount of power and authority over others. Normally, those who become judges, have some affinity for legal processes. And of course, some may also want to be private investigators but I doubt that the private gumshoe thing is all that popular outside of TV shows. Real life is not a Bogart film.

Rin says

First of all, I think many of these ppl are saying what they think that ppl want to hear.

Very true. Most people want to appear social, because those who are unwilling to put up a fake face will be labelled "sociopaths."

People will be happier at work if:

1. CNM relationships are more prevalent
2. Office sex is encouraged

Peter P says

People will be happier at work if:

1. CNM relationships are more prevalent

2. Office sex is encouraged

The jealousies in the office would turn the place into the Jerry Springer show within a few months.

Peter P says

Rin says

First of all, I think many of these ppl are saying what they think that ppl want to hear.

Very true. Most people want to appear social, because those who are unwilling to put up a fake face will be labelled "sociopaths."

Yep, just like I can only talk about boning hoes on PatNet but not in the office.

Rin says

The jealousies in the office would turn the place into the Jerry Springer show within a few months.

Successfully implemented consensual non-monogamous relationships can supposedly keep jealousy in check. If Mary is available to many people, who cares if she is seeing Paul? :-)

Abundance encourages positive thinking. Jealousy is negative thinking.

Just provide a stash of condoms right next to the tea bags.

Peter P says

If Mary is available to many people, who cares if she is seeing Paul? :-)

What if Mary prefers Peter's peter over Paul's? And what if Jane's cantaloupes are more exciting than Mary's. And Kathy is tighter than Jane?

You see, this will only work when everyone can have a Raquel Welch or Cary Grant android for themselves.

In the meantime, we need to legalize prostitution in America.

Peter P says

This is bullshit. It obviously depend on the size of the windfall. $1M? $500M?

NOTHING is everything, but money will buy you most things.

Couldn't agree more. Enjoy the life of doing whatever you want to do, then tell me if you still want to work. What a bunch of manure.

Just like those saying "money doesn't buy happiness" are typically those that don't have money. LOL!!!

Rin says

Many ppl would rather do their hobbies like fixing cars, playing a guitar, seeing escort gals, etc.

Gotta love it. Anything that comes from Rin has "escort" in it. LOL!!!

E-man says

Just like those saying "money doesn't buy happiness" are typically those that don't have money.

Thank you, I'd once created a thread on that topic...

http://patrick.net/?p=1238061

It would have to be several millions before I would stop working. And I really wouldn't stop working. I would imagine that if I had that kind of money, and I didn't want to be M.C. Hammer rich. I would have put the money to work for me, and that would probably be a bigger taxing job, than I've ever done in my life.

I would definately rather spend my days at an office somewhere. Rich people who toil their days away at home tinkering around. Or out and about on vacation excursions, seem like they have too much money. When you look like you have that kind of money, everyone you know thinks they deserve some of it. People tend to have more respect for people with money who are still poor enough to keep regular business hours. Rich unemployed escentrics will end up poor again soon enough.

I'll take the escorts and yachts. I'm totally replacable, just like the billions buried in the ground, and I'm not a Calvinist.

jazz music says

Why keep bringing it up?

Very simple, because I can't talk about it in society and thus, PatNet is that venue where being upfront about one's desires is doable. Look at A.F. as an example, do you really believe that he talks about being a cannibal in his real life?

jazz music says

Peter P says

People will be happier at work if:

1. CNM relationships are more prevalent

2. Office sex is encouraged

1. What is CNM?

2. Sex with coworkers is the road to hell.

CNM stand for consensual non-monogamous.

Office romance is the road to hell. Office sex needs not be more dramatic than playing tennis with co-workers.

thunderlips11 says

I'll take the escorts

Peter P says

2. Office sex is encouraged

Certainly was in the movie "Wolf of Wallstreet". Even IF some of those gals only worked for a couple hours or so.

The Ford Escort joke is long gone.

Rin says

What if Mary prefers Peter's peter over Paul's?

Then Paul can bang out the issue with Amy and Becca and Cindy and Daisy. :-)

And Peter's peter will eventually peter out.

Not if he has a bottle of Repeter.

Stimulative reflation?

Peter P says

This is bullshit. It obviously depend on the size of the windfall. $1M? $500M?

Probably. Most people would really just laze around a mansion if they got $500 million.

I wouldn't. I'd keep working, but not for a company. I'd work on my own with no boss. And I'd do things that I think are important to the world rather than things that make money. It would be an interesting life.

How much time can you really spend doing hookers and blow? It must get boring. Now building a Dyson ring would keep be entertained for a long time.

Dan8267 says

How much time can you really spend doing hookers and blow

Why not the hookers and leave out the controlled substances?

Ultimately, it's about having a good time and mellowing out, between running experiments and writing screenplays.

All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

Peter P says

People will be happier at work if:

1. CNM relationships are more prevalent

2. Office sex is encouraged

What if the women in your office looked like this?

lostand confused says

What if the women in your office looked like this?

How do you know I am not fatter? ;-)

lostand confused says

What if the women in your office looked like this?

That's a case for everyone working from home.

1.) buy an awesome place with an awesome view.

2.) take up poker again.

3.) buy some badass fucking cars

4. Get pads in SF, lv, and dtla.

5.) travel everywhere.

6.) collect baseball cards to my hearts content.

1) Donate 1/3 to charity
2) Pay off all my debts
3) Pay off my parents' and brothers' debts
4) Set up trust funds for my kids and step kids
5) Invest the rest in something that would give me an income I could live off of without ever touching the remaining principal
6) Remodel my kitchen and bathrooms
7) Travel every year to somewhere really interesting
8) Become a permanent student at my local university

turtledove says

1) Donate 1/3 to charity

Hopefully that's because you're passionate about that cause and not because you feel compelled to "give back."

Turtledove seems on the right track. If the money was large enough I would set up a charity and administer or at least work in it to the extent legal to keep it charitable. Choose something you believe in and see that it is done right. Anyway it is also a way to employ decedents.
When these people found 10 million gold coins here in northern California, they were naive to take it to a road show estimator and end up giving so much to the IRS. A better strategy would be to estimate worth yourself online and if need be by 'becoming a collector'. Discreetly sell the lower value coins and slowly build your assets. Higher value coins could be sold en mass and used to create your charity. Choose something you believe in and see that it is done right

Oh...you have a "boss"?
How quaint...

Dan8267 says

I wouldn't. I'd keep working, but not for a company. I'd work on my own with no boss.

Call it Crazy says

Hmmmm... Having a boss... That explains why Dan is always so cranky...

Hmmmm.... Being owners... That explains why CIC and Strategist are so lazy and greedy.

Employees produce wealth. Owners siphon wealth. Time for a fundamentally new economic system in which all people can maximize their productivity and keep the lion's share of the wealth they produce.

Dan8267 says

Employees produce wealth. Owners siphon wealth.

Better be evil than poor. :-)

Dan8267 says

Call it Crazy says

Hmmmm... Having a boss... That explains why Dan is always so cranky...

Hmmmm.... Being owners... That explains why CIC and Strategist are so lazy and greedy.

Employees produce wealth. Owners siphon wealth. Time for a fundamentally new economic system in which all people can maximize their productivity and keep the lion's share of the wealth they produce.

Entrepreneurship and capitalism creates wealth. The third world has lots of workers but no wealth.
I hope someone steals your car.

Peter P says

2. Office sex is encouraged

Maybe even required. :)

Peter P says

turtledove says

1) Donate 1/3 to charity

Hopefully that's because you're passionate about that cause and not because you feel compelled to "give back."

Call it Crazy says

turtledove says

1) Donate 1/3 to charity

Does the portion that goes to .gov(IRS) considered a "charity"?

I just feel that if I had a substantial windfall that it was money I wasn't expecting. It's money I didn't earn. It's money I got simply for being born under the right star. I would want to use a piece of that to try to change the luck of someone else.

As for the IRS, any donation or charitable foundation you started would be tax deductible. You're still going to pay the money, but in this case, you would get to decide how that money is spent.

Yes, you're giving money away... but what's left over is still more money than you ever thought you'd have for doing nothing more than picking six lucky numbers, for example.

turtledove says

I just feel that if I had a substantial windfall that it was money I wasn't expecting. It's money I didn't earn. It's money I got simply for being born under the right star. I would want to use a piece of that to try to change the luck of someone else.

Not trying to talk you out of giving back, but luck is random and everywhere. Anyone with an open mind who think positively can "make" his own luck.

Money doesn't have to be earned. It is ethically neutral.

Dan8267 says

Employees produce wealth.

Pareto principle is that 20% of the best workers do 80% of the work.

And unfortunately, MBA-ologists and passive income owners tend to not be among that top 20%, which is why corporate America is such a joke.

But yes, an active owner of a small to midsize company can do a lot of good work.

The whole purpose of my science/engineering welfare state is to give that slice of STEM workers, a chance to break free of corporate life.

http://patrick.net/?p=1240106

Rin says

Pareto principle is that 20% of the best workers do 80% of the work.

Having been in a few situations where the hyper-competitive top workers were blowing through tasks which the other workers would then have to revisit when their sloppy work failed, I'm not sure I buy this principle.

But point taken about the MBA folks.

HydroCabron says

hyper-competitive top workers were blowing through tasks which the other workers would then have to revisit when their sloppy work failed

I'd actually put those individuals in the 15-25% category, as much of their effort is about speed and not being systematic.

The ones I'm talking about are those who plan ahead, are conscientious, and communicate their work well. Whenever I see a cadre of them, I can tell that the team is extremely effective.

Rin says

HydroCabron says

hyper-competitive top workers were blowing through tasks which the other workers would then have to revisit when their sloppy work failed

I'd actually put those individuals in the 15-25% category, as much of their effort is about speed and not being systematic.

The ones I'm talking about are those who plan ahead, are conscientious, and communicate their work well. Whenever I see a cadre of them, I can tell that the team is extremely effective.

It should be noted that an MBA these days is not a recipe for automatic wealth anymore - quite a few entry level MBAs work in marketing or other agencies for $20-25/hour to get some accolades.