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291   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Jul 11, 2:52pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says

Pretty much. Not to mention the most vile, racist comments were levied by those crying "free speech!"


Nope--the most vile were Ironman. Without question.

Although there is an extremely racist post title currently active on the home screen. But the author is on the right team so it's no problem.
292   FortWayne   ignore (2)   2018 Jul 11, 2:56pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I had my posts deleted. But I just learned to not adhom instead of taking it personally and quitting.

RafiMaas says
LeonDurham says
Yep--nobody left because they couldn't ad hom. They left because pat.net became a place where free speech was no longer welcome unless you are on the right team.
they left because having moderators only on 1 team is really not moderation at all.
293   dr6B   ignore (1)   2018 Jul 11, 3:12pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
Although there is an extremely racist post title currently active on the home screen. But the author is on the right team so it's no problem.


If you mean Hey N... police your own, the author is HEYYOU and he is on no teams other than his own
294   RafiMaas   ignore (0)   2018 Jul 11, 3:29pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
TwoScoopsOfWompWomp says
Bullshit. It was the TDS flipouts that caused the ad hom ban, and THAT was literally given as the reason by TDSers that it was no longer "Free Speech" unless you could call everybody a retarded Trumptard scumbag five times in a post.


Pretty much. Not to mention the most vile, racist comments were levied by those crying "free speech!"


Hey moderators, is saying someone has a disease a personal attack or not? Avoiding the question?
295   dr6B   ignore (1)   2018 Jul 11, 3:40pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
Lol Libertarians are indistinguishable from Republicans

Feel free to prove me wrong

296   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Jul 11, 4:14pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FortWayne says
I had my posts deleted. But I just learned to not adhom instead of taking it personally and quitting.


Exactly. That's my point. Nobody left because of the adhom rules. They left because of the outsourced moderators obvious bias.
297   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Jul 11, 4:17pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

dr6B says
If you mean Hey N... police your own, the author is HEYYOU and he is on no teams other than his own


You're right. My mistake--I was thinking it was a different author.
298   MrMagic   ignore (11)   2018 Jul 11, 7:42pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
@Patrick why are you censoring my posts again? What is the excuse this time?


Isn't that the same issue as with your last profile here?

Some things never change.

Aphroman says
Rogue moderator coward with an axe to grind again?


Hmmmmm......
299   Aphroman   ignore (7)   2018 Jul 12, 12:56am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

dr6B says
Aphroman says
Lol Libertarians are indistinguishable from Republicans

Feel free to prove me wrong



Ron Paul is a Republican

Funny that you posted this. At the top of the list it says minorities are disproportionately punished by the War on Drugs. I posted a thread a few weeks ago about ending Cannabis Prohibition and how it disproportionately punished minorities, and you said we need to leave race out of it. Being that the issue is deeply rooted in racism, as Paul says, why is it important to ignore such an obvious fact?

Does pretending it doesn’t exist help somehow?
300   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Jul 12, 1:04am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
Lol Libertarians are indistinguishable from Republicans


McCain = HRC = Obama = Bush

Rand Paul is a totally different breed.

You still haven't answered the question of who is right vs left. Are you just talking about R's vs D's? Go ask George HW Bush who his scion R family all voted for in 2016 POTUS election. Then come back and tell us what right vs left means.
301   dr6B   ignore (1)   2018 Jul 12, 6:25am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
Being that the issue is deeply rooted in racism, as Paul says, why is it important to ignore such an obvious fact?

Does pretending it doesn’t exist help somehow?

1. The fact that stupid drug war influences minorities more does not mean that currently it is rooted in racism. It was (initially, at least for MJ-but not necessarily for other drugs), but now the prohibition machine is crushing everyone who is poor, as minorities are poorer, they suffer more. Cause here is not race, it is economics. I am sure Hollywood and Washington are snorting coke like crazy yet poor guy is going to jail.

2. RP is R in name only as his voting record shows, and he run as Prez from Libertarian party many times. His voting record and views shows that L's are different from R's. Too bad R's redristricted him out of his district. Kind of similar to what D's did to Kucinich and Sanders.
302   PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 9, 7:14pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

dr6B says
Aphroman says
Being that the issue is deeply rooted in racism, as Paul says, why is it important to ignore such an obvious fact?

Does pretending it doesn’t exist help somehow?

1. The fact that stupid drug war influences minorities more does not mean that currently it is rooted in racism. It was (initially, at least for MJ-but not necessarily for other drugs), but now the prohibition machine is crushing everyone who is poor, as minorities are poorer, they suffer more. Cause here is not race, it is economics. I am sure Hollywood and Washington are snorting coke like crazy yet poor guy is going to jail.

2. RP is R in name only as his voting record shows, and he run as Prez from Libertarian party many times. His voting record and views shows that L's are different from R's. Too bad R's redristricted him out of his district. Kind of similar to what D's did to Kucinich and Sanders.


Don't you think the primary reason for prohibition is that certain people will lose a lot of money if drugs were cheap, and legal? There are other reasons of course, for example making drugs illegal will theoretically make it harder to do stupid things like overdose and do crimes while under the influence both of which are a burden borne by those who have no involvement in the drug trade, competing legal drugs, or law enforcement.
303   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 9, 7:45pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I do think the primary reason for prohibition of marijuana was and is money. Keeping it illegal keeps prisons profitably full and prevents competition with alcohol interests.

It also provides a windfall to police though civil forfeiture:

Yet strong institutional forces have kept nearly every law enforcement professional association opposed to reform. Starting with the Reagan administration, police departments were encouraged to seize and sell property associated with drug busts, which significantly augmented their revenue. Between 2002 and 2012, law enforcement agencies collected about $1 billion from marijuana arrests, according to Justice Department data.


https://www.thenation.com/article/anti-pot-lobbys-big-bankroll/
304   Aphroman   ignore (7)   2018 Aug 10, 5:22am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Criminalizing weed gave the police and government the ability to further marginalize, profile, and arrest minorities

Henry Anslinger was the first commissioner of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics in 1930

“The herb makes darkies think they’re as good as white men”

“Reefer cause white women to seek sexual relations with negroes, entertainers and any others”

“The primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races”

———————
Nixon


"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people," former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman told Harper's writer Dan Baum for the April cover story published Tuesday.

"You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities," Ehrlichman said. "We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."
306   Aphroman   ignore (7)   2018 Aug 10, 5:32am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

In this photo replace with the muslim with the white architects of Prohibition, and a noose around a negros neck with caption “I’m trying to fuck over the niggers”

Replace the old lady with right wing denialists: “no you’re not”


This is an absolute, provable, iron clad fact backed up with the people’s own words and admission of their motives.

What is beyond bizarre is that certain people continue to try and explain it away with some wierd nonsense. Incapable of being honest and an admission of the fact, they will attempt any distraction in lieu of simply admitting reality.

The question is, why?

Why are some white peoples so confused about Prohibition and it’s racist roots? What do they think they lose by being honest and embracing the truth, other than a disgusting grip of power to destroy they are unwilling to cede? Here’s a hint, carrying the torch for that big lie serves you NO BENEFIT! Only COST
307   WillPowers   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 20, 10:36pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Liberal media outlet: Politico, in an article dated 11/21/2013 shows how Obama, who did the same thing Trump is doing now, revoking national security clearances for national security reasons, was not shamed by the press for doing so:

https://mojomorning.blogspot.com/2018/08/media-war...
308   Aphroman   ignore (7)   2018 Aug 21, 10:35pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

graymatter says
I do think the primary reason for the prohibition of marijuana was and is money. Keeping it illegal keeps prisons profitably full and prevents competition with alcohol interests.

https://www.graymatter.co.in/big-data


The largest monied interest is healthcare especially pharmaceuticals, because cannabis is such an inexpensive and effective medicine. So the money they give the Republicans is a prime factor

If you listen to what the Prohibitionist actually say, their main reason is to terrorize blacks and disempower the liberals
309   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 21, 10:38pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
especially pharmaceuticals, because cannabis is such an inexpensive and effective medicine.


You know they have to test drugs before they are used as medicine right? Go ahead and share you conspiracy theory though. Which major medication will marijuana replace?

Aphroman says
If you listen to what the Prohibitionist actually say, their main reason is to terrorize blacks and disempower the liberals


Link? I cant wait to read your "support" for this statement.
310   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 22, 6:46am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
Go ahead and share you conspiracy theory though. Which major medication will marijuana replace?


I'm not sure of big time medical treatments that will benefit people. Like curing a cancer or something. But off the top of my head, Tylenol, Advil, etc would take a beating for sure. Can't remember the exact compound in the plant, but weed with higher % of CBD I believe has a pain relieving effect. I stopped in CO last month to load up (not usually an active consumer - maybe 20 days a year) on pot supplies. I had some back pain, knew I was going to be doing some hiking and got some edibles with high level of CBD.

Result, worked substantially better then any pain killer I've taken. And I don't have to worry about my stomach bleeding or liver because I might have a drink or two at night. It would turn the pain killer market upside-down overnight. And that's a massive profit center for pharma because it leads to the perception that a pill will solve all your problems. It's a gateway.

And I'm not saying there aren't good drugs out there that help people with some fucked up shit, pharma does have it's place. I just know from first hand experience, with basic pain, certain varieties of pot help. My old man has cancer and has been on it now for about 4 months. He's a different person. The pain had been bothering him and now he's more like him old self. When you're in pain you're more likely to be agitated, angry, etc. That's gone with him now.

Obviously not some massive study by any means ;) , but pot does have it's place. Just wiping out the pain killer market would have a massive upheaval on the pharma industry. They don't want that as it would piss of shareholders pretty good.
311   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2018 Aug 29, 3:02pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
If you listen to what the Prohibitionist actually say, their main reason is to terrorize blacks and disempower the liberals


Yeah, White Supremacists pushed for tough sentences for drug dealers.

312   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 29, 3:08pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
Just wiping out the pain killer market would have a massive upheaval on the pharma industry.


If it cant relieve pain w/o making you high then it's a specialty use pain killer, not the twice/day pill that tylenol or aspirin can be. Also what about sports or just being able to give it to a kid in school?

Then theres cost. Can this marijuana extract be given for a few pennies per dose?
313   FortWayne   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 29, 6:20pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Liberals tend to rewrite history to fit their own narrative.

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Aphroman says
If you listen to what the Prohibitionist actually say, their main reason is to terrorize blacks and disempower the liberals


Yeah, White Supremacists pushed for tough sentences for drug dealers.

314   curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 29, 6:51pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FortWayne says
Liberals tend to rewrite history to fit their own narrative.


Some people who call themselves "liberal" or "conservative" or "libertarian" do that, but it is neither a liberal nor conservative nor libertarian thing to do. You have repeatedly done that regarding Rome among other topics.
315   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 29, 7:08pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
Can this marijuana extract be given for a few pennies per dose?


Yes it can. The stuff is ridiculously cheap to make.
316   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 31, 4:11am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
Also what about sports or just being able to give it to a kid in school?


The NFLPA has been trying for a while now to get it off the banned substance list. So if America's favorite sport and athletes are wanting it, I don't think sports is an issue. While playing the game, sure I suppose it could have a detrimental effect. But you can't assume what they're taking anyway isn't detrimental to game day performance either.

The kids in school is a bit problematic, I'll agree there. I'd say it shouldn't be used as a pain reliever for minor things in a school setting. But if a kid has something serious, then sure, let them take it. There are varieties that don't get you nearly as high as what people would think. And if you actually NEED it daily, then you do build up a tolerance to the high.

If pain levels are that bad, it's likely that you're taking prescription anyway. And I presume you've read those labels on prescriptions. Wouldn't want my kid taking that shit, say after an appendicitis or gall bladder removal.

I'm not some hippy dippy, holistic guru guy either, but weed does work from personal experience. And other older folks I know who swore the stuff was the devil, gateway, etc. used it now at 60+ and swear by it. Believe me, before I tried it for pain reasons I thought the same thing, people just wanting to get high. Getting high isn't bad though either. Rather have stoned people walking around in public versus drunks if that's the most concerning side effect with no other physical, health damaging side effects. Get stoned and helps with pain.

I consume maybe 20 times a year roughly, when in states where legal. Mostly for recreation. So I'm not some pothead with an agenda to get high all the time without legal consequences.
317   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 31, 5:02am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
There are varieties that don't get you nearly as high as what people would think. And if you actually NEED it daily, then you do build up a tolerance to the high.


Cant they remove the "high" and leave the medicine?

My god if they could remove the "munchies" and perhaps the "stupid" from the high, it would be the perfect recreational drug.
318   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 31, 5:16am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
people just wanting to get high. Getting high isn't bad though either.


If you are a chronic cancer patient, getting high could be therapeutic. At least it takes your mind off your tragedy for a while. Any extreme pain and getting high is half the solution, like a morphine drip from a man w a missing leg.

I'm just saying I dont see the conspiracy to keep it down for money reasons... or perhaps there are negative monetary reasons for some corporations, but many other see huge $$$. This isnt some corporations vs the small man situation. Phillip Morris could make more than anyone if marijuana is legalized. https://hightimes.com/news/tobacco-companies-investing-cannabis/
319   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 31, 6:08am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
I'm just saying I dont see the conspiracy to keep it down for money reasons... or perhaps there are negative monetary reasons for some corporations, but many other see huge $$$. This isnt some corporations vs the small man situation. Phillip Morris could make more than anyone if marijuana is legalized. https://hightimes.com/news/tobacco-companies-investing-cannabis/


I understand this sentiment and get most people will go for commercial products if it were legalized. And new huge corps will spring out of nowhere as well. So I'm not arguing the big guys vs little guy point. There's massive money to be made because revenue from 1 acre is probably the equivalent of 500 acres of corn or soybeans (might be even more, just guessing).

Knowing our government though, they'll still probably make it illegal to grow a plant in your back yard if it was legalized. But IF growing was allowed, it's essentially free if you smoke it and minimal cost to make your own edibles. No one gets a cut in that market and that's the problem with allowing legal cannabis. Two plants can yield more then even the most potty of pots head could consume in a year. Nobody is making money off what's grown in your back yard and that's where there's a problem. If it reduces 10-15% of OTC and prescription pain killers, then it's going to impact things bigly.

And don't get me wrong, 80-90% of the customers, if it became legal, would be recreational users. But they're using it anyway and pot laws are very rarely ever enforced in non-legal states if you're out and about. So not much changes tomorrow if it becomes legal outside of new companies being born and new tax revenue that is just going to criminals now. Seems like a win win to me.

CBOEtrader says
My god if they could remove the "munchies" and perhaps the "stupid" from the high, it would be the perfect recreational drug.


I don't know, I can live with those side effects. Versus other prescription drugs out there? It's like getting a cut (Cannabis) versus being stabbed with a sword (oxy for example). Opioid pain killers legit do part of what's in the title, kill. Weed doesn't.
320   Aphroman   ignore (7)   2018 Aug 31, 6:13am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
WookieMan says
There are varieties that don't get you nearly as high as what people would think. And if you actually NEED it daily, then you do build up a tolerance to the high.


Cant they remove the "high" and leave the medicine?

My god if they could remove the "munchies" and perhaps the "stupid" from the high, it would be the perfect recreational drug.


When you say “get high”, what do you think you mean? The euphoric feeling? Generally there’s not much impairment with cannabis consumption.

Humans are wired to get well with Cannabis. That’s why we have the Endocannabinoid System. Supplementing with Cannabis promotes homeostasis. And of course, there’s an infinite amount of different chemovars (chemical varieties, some people call ‘strains’) and cannabis has been bred to have higher/lower amounts of THC a/o CBD. Some have much more myrcene or pinene than others, and the distribution of these olefinic natural organic hydrocarbons, or rather varying combinations, offer up far differing effects.

There’s a reason why Canada took so long to pass their Federal Legalization bill #c45, and it’s because the ignorant folk demanded a #c46 bill as accompanying to regulate driving laws for cannabis usage. Problem is, unlike alcohol where we can know that .08 level in the blood equates to impairment, having THC in ones system in any amount doesn’t prove any level of impairment. Partly because the body doesn’t work to rid itself of Cannabis constituents the way it does with a toxin like alcohol.
321   mell   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 31, 6:24am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
When you say “get high”, what do you think you mean? The euphoric feeling? Generally there’s not much impairment with cannabis consumption.


If you take an edible cookie say with 1/8 as serving and eat half of it, most people will either trip hard, pass out sleeping or throw up, or any combination thereof. Depending on the dosage impairment is significant. Less so when smoking as it is easier to titrate, but similar to alcohol you have a cumulative effect if you smoke too much too fast. It's all about dosage, in moderation alcohol is good for you, similar for cannabis. It should not be stronger regulated than alcohol.
322   Aphroman   ignore (7)   2018 Aug 31, 6:25am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Knowing our government though, they'll still probably make it illegal to grow a plant in your back yard if it was legalized. But IF growing was allowed, it's essentially free if you smoke it and minimal cost to make your own edibles. No one gets a cut in that market and that's the problem with allowing legal cannabis. Two plants can yield more then even the most potty of pots head could consume in a year. Nobody is making money off what's grown in your back yard and that's where there's a problem. If it reduces 10-15% of OTC and prescription pain killers, then it's going to impact things bigly.

This guy gets it


And don't get me wrong, 80-90% of the customers, if it became legal, would be recreational users.

This guy doesn’t.

Cannabidiol (CBD) is the get well component, and sooner than later you will see it in literally every health/wellness product and supplement.

There’s a reason that the best athletes on the planet consume cannabis before and after their performance (Michael phelps anyone?). It’s more of a PED performance enhancing drug than it is a recreational get high drug. And then also a recovery drug
323   Aphroman   ignore (7)   2018 Aug 31, 6:27am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

If you can watch this and still side with Prohibitionists, you’re a Piece of Shit

324   Aphroman   ignore (7)   2018 Aug 31, 6:30am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

mell says
Aphroman says
When you say “get high”, what do you think you mean? The euphoric feeling? Generally there’s not much impairment with cannabis consumption.


If you take an edible cookie say with 1/8 as serving and eat half of it, most people will either trip hard, pass out sleeping or throw up, or any combination thereof. Depending on the dosage impairment is significant. Less so when smoking as it is easier to titrate, but similar to alcohol you have a cumulative effect if you smoke too much. It's all about dosage, in moderation alcohol is good for you, similar for cannabis. It should not be stronger regulated than alcohol.


It’s actually not like alcohol at all, and you’re goingvto continue to see more and more science become mainstream showing that no amount of alcohol is good for you

The dose makes the poison. For alcohol, any dosage greater than zero is toxic.
325   mell   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 31, 6:44am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
mell says
Aphroman says
When you say “get high”, what do you think you mean? The euphoric feeling? Generally there’s not much impairment with cannabis consumption.


If you take an edible cookie say with 1/8 as serving and eat half of it, most people will either trip hard, pass out sleeping or throw up, or any combination thereof. Depending on the dosage impairment is significant. Less so when smoking as it is easier to titrate, but similar to alcohol you have a cumulative effect if you smoke too much. It's all about dosage, in moderation alcohol is good for you, similar for cannabis. It should not be stronger regulated than alcohol.


It’s actually not like alcohol at all, and you’re goingvto continue to see more and more science become mainstream showing that no amount of alcohol is good for you

T...


Alcohol in moderation is linked to slightly increased longevity simply mostly by protecting the heart. This correlation has been repeated in many studies. The recent study included deaths from impairment, self harm and tuberculosis and also included teenagers. If you take these off the numbers look different. There is a trade off wrt cardio vascular and diabetes benefits and increased cancer risk so I would not recommend drinking a lot unless you are partying once in a while.
326   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 31, 7:38am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
And of course, there’s an infinite amount of different chemovars (chemical varieties, some people call ‘strains’) and cannabis has been bred to have higher/lower amounts of THC a/o CBD. Some have much more myrcene or pinene than others, and the distribution of these olefinic natural organic hydrocarbons, or rather varying combinations, offer up far differing effects.


Did you go to weed university?
327   Aphroman   ignore (7)   2018 Aug 31, 9:18am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
Aphroman says
And of course, there’s an infinite amount of different chemovars (chemical varieties, some people call ‘strains’) and cannabis has been bred to have higher/lower amounts of THC a/o CBD. Some have much more myrcene or pinene than others, and the distribution of these olefinic natural organic hydrocarbons, or rather varying combinations, offer up far differing effects.


Did you go to weed university?


you could say that. But i'm self taught. All the information is out there. I mean, if we're going to have a Free Market full of Capitalists, it's not going to happen by berating liberals. You have to take some Personal Responsibility in Making America Great. My curiosity of Cannabis started back in 1995. So 20+ year head start on people who are just now starting to ask questions....Fortunately for US, America still affords a chance at success, and we have Canada to thank for Liberty and Freedom wrt the ability to profit from the end of Prohibition. The War on Drugs isn't over yet, but when was the last time the bad guys won a battle? We've been drubbing them in the trenches for decades.

I'd say you should have seen the Conservatives effort to maintain the Status Quo of Prohibition up in Canada, but it was very torturous and you didn't really miss anything. But the same ignorant lemmings are still offering up the same old tired and disproved tripe that the Racist Republicans have used for 80 years to sell Prohibition. Don't let those words Racist and Republican trigger you: I know, you have very strong feelz about that part of our history, just remember, that doesn't make historical facts any less true. And it's really not important anymore, unless the question you're asking is "If the plant has so many known benefits, why does the Government Prohibit us to use it?" and you want an honest answer.
328   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 31, 9:22am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
Don't let those words Racist and Republican trigger you


Lol, you literally can't have a conversation w/o mislabeling republicans as racist. I've never voted for a Republican, ever...but this says a lot about your misdirected mindset.

Lay off the CNN and maybe you'd see the world more clearly
329   FortWayne   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 31, 10:03am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

curious2 says
FortWayne says
Liberals tend to rewrite history to fit their own narrative.


Some people who call themselves "liberal" or "conservative" or "libertarian" do that, but it is neither a liberal nor conservative nor libertarian thing to do. You have repeatedly done that regarding Rome among other topics.


How do you than explain the Rome thing?
330   Aphroman   ignore (7)   2018 Aug 31, 10:54am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
Aphroman says
Don't let those words Racist and Republican trigger you


Lol, you literally can't have a conversation w/o mislabeling republicans as racist. I've never voted for a Republican, ever...but this says a lot about your misdirected mindset.

Lay off the CNN and maybe you'd see the world more clearly



you could say that. But i'm self taught. All the information is out there. I mean, if we're going to have a Free Market full of Capitalists, it's not going to happen by berating liberals. You have to take some Personal Responsibility in Making America Great. My curiosity of Cannabis started back in 1995. So 20+ year head start on people who are just now starting to ask questions....Fortunately for US, America still affords a chance at success, and we have Canada to thank for Liberty and Freedom wrt the ability to profit from the end of Prohibition. The War on Drugs isn't over yet, but when was the last time the bad guys won a battle? We've been drubbing them in the trenches for decades.

I'd say you should have seen the Conservatives effort to maintain the Status Quo of Prohibition up in Canada, but it was very torturous and you didn't really miss anything. But the same ignorant lemmings are still offering up the same old tired and disproved tripe that the Racist Republicans have used for 80 years to sell Prohibition. Don't let those words Racist and Republican trigger you: I know, you have very strong feelz about that part of our history, just remember, that doesn't make historical facts any less true. And it's really not important anymore, unless the question you're asking is "If the plant has so many known benefits, why does the Government Prohibit us to use it?" and you want an honest answer.

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Like i said it's really not important anymore, unless the question you're asking is "If the plant has so many known benefits, why does the Government Prohibit us to use it?"

So disregard the piece of information about history, and Prohibition, because it triggers you, and instead focus on everything else i said, if you want to have a conversation. I didn't say All Republicans are Racist. I said "you should have seen the Conservatives effort to maintain the Status Quo of Prohibition up in Canada, but it was very torturous and you didn't really miss anything. But the same ignorant lemmings are still offering up the same old tired and disproved tripe that the Racist Republicans have used for 80 years to sell Prohibition"

History does matter, and with Cannabis and Hemp, there's a history dating back millenia. Recent history wrt Prohibition is uncomfortable for certain people because of the obvious truths and its roots in racism. That doesn't bother me at all to say, why does it bother you so much?

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