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281   d6rB   ignore (1)   2018 Jul 11, 3:40pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
Lol Libertarians are indistinguishable from Republicans

Feel free to prove me wrong

282   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Jul 11, 4:14pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FortWayne says
I had my posts deleted. But I just learned to not adhom instead of taking it personally and quitting.


Exactly. That's my point. Nobody left because of the adhom rules. They left because of the outsourced moderators obvious bias.
283   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Jul 11, 4:17pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

dr6B says
If you mean Hey N... police your own, the author is HEYYOU and he is on no teams other than his own


You're right. My mistake--I was thinking it was a different author.
284   MrMagic   ignore (10)   2018 Jul 11, 7:42pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
@Patrick why are you censoring my posts again? What is the excuse this time?


Isn't that the same issue as with your last profile here?

Some things never change.

Aphroman says
Rogue moderator coward with an axe to grind again?


Hmmmmm......
285   CBOEtrader   ignore (5)   2018 Jul 12, 1:04am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
Lol Libertarians are indistinguishable from Republicans


McCain = HRC = Obama = Bush

Rand Paul is a totally different breed.

You still haven't answered the question of who is right vs left. Are you just talking about R's vs D's? Go ask George HW Bush who his scion R family all voted for in 2016 POTUS election. Then come back and tell us what right vs left means.
286   d6rB   ignore (1)   2018 Jul 12, 6:25am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
Being that the issue is deeply rooted in racism, as Paul says, why is it important to ignore such an obvious fact?

Does pretending it doesn’t exist help somehow?

1. The fact that stupid drug war influences minorities more does not mean that currently it is rooted in racism. It was (initially, at least for MJ-but not necessarily for other drugs), but now the prohibition machine is crushing everyone who is poor, as minorities are poorer, they suffer more. Cause here is not race, it is economics. I am sure Hollywood and Washington are snorting coke like crazy yet poor guy is going to jail.

2. RP is R in name only as his voting record shows, and he run as Prez from Libertarian party many times. His voting record and views shows that L's are different from R's. Too bad R's redristricted him out of his district. Kind of similar to what D's did to Kucinich and Sanders.
287   PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2018 Aug 9, 7:14pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

dr6B says
Aphroman says
Being that the issue is deeply rooted in racism, as Paul says, why is it important to ignore such an obvious fact?

Does pretending it doesn’t exist help somehow?

1. The fact that stupid drug war influences minorities more does not mean that currently it is rooted in racism. It was (initially, at least for MJ-but not necessarily for other drugs), but now the prohibition machine is crushing everyone who is poor, as minorities are poorer, they suffer more. Cause here is not race, it is economics. I am sure Hollywood and Washington are snorting coke like crazy yet poor guy is going to jail.

2. RP is R in name only as his voting record shows, and he run as Prez from Libertarian party many times. His voting record and views shows that L's are different from R's. Too bad R's redristricted him out of his district. Kind of similar to what D's did to Kucinich and Sanders.


Don't you think the primary reason for prohibition is that certain people will lose a lot of money if drugs were cheap, and legal? There are other reasons of course, for example making drugs illegal will theoretically make it harder to do stupid things like overdose and do crimes while under the influence both of which are a burden borne by those who have no involvement in the drug trade, competing legal drugs, or law enforcement.
288   Patrick   ignore (1)   2018 Aug 9, 7:45pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I do think the primary reason for prohibition of marijuana was and is money. Keeping it illegal keeps prisons profitably full and prevents competition with alcohol interests.

It also provides a windfall to police though civil forfeiture:

Yet strong institutional forces have kept nearly every law enforcement professional association opposed to reform. Starting with the Reagan administration, police departments were encouraged to seize and sell property associated with drug busts, which significantly augmented their revenue. Between 2002 and 2012, law enforcement agencies collected about $1 billion from marijuana arrests, according to Justice Department data.


https://www.thenation.com/article/anti-pot-lobbys-big-bankroll/
289   WillPowers   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 20, 10:36pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Liberal media outlet: Politico, in an article dated 11/21/2013 shows how Obama, who did the same thing Trump is doing now, revoking national security clearances for national security reasons, was not shamed by the press for doing so:

https://mojomorning.blogspot.com/2018/08/media-war...
290   CBOEtrader   ignore (5)   2018 Aug 21, 10:38pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
especially pharmaceuticals, because cannabis is such an inexpensive and effective medicine.


You know they have to test drugs before they are used as medicine right? Go ahead and share you conspiracy theory though. Which major medication will marijuana replace?

Aphroman says
If you listen to what the Prohibitionist actually say, their main reason is to terrorize blacks and disempower the liberals


Link? I cant wait to read your "support" for this statement.
291   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 22, 6:46am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
Go ahead and share you conspiracy theory though. Which major medication will marijuana replace?


I'm not sure of big time medical treatments that will benefit people. Like curing a cancer or something. But off the top of my head, Tylenol, Advil, etc would take a beating for sure. Can't remember the exact compound in the plant, but weed with higher % of CBD I believe has a pain relieving effect. I stopped in CO last month to load up (not usually an active consumer - maybe 20 days a year) on pot supplies. I had some back pain, knew I was going to be doing some hiking and got some edibles with high level of CBD.

Result, worked substantially better then any pain killer I've taken. And I don't have to worry about my stomach bleeding or liver because I might have a drink or two at night. It would turn the pain killer market upside-down overnight. And that's a massive profit center for pharma because it leads to the perception that a pill will solve all your problems. It's a gateway.

And I'm not saying there aren't good drugs out there that help people with some fucked up shit, pharma does have it's place. I just know from first hand experience, with basic pain, certain varieties of pot help. My old man has cancer and has been on it now for about 4 months. He's a different person. The pain had been bothering him and now he's more like him old self. When you're in pain you're more likely to be agitated, angry, etc. That's gone with him now.

Obviously not some massive study by any means ;) , but pot does have it's place. Just wiping out the pain killer market would have a massive upheaval on the pharma industry. They don't want that as it would piss of shareholders pretty good.
292   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2018 Aug 29, 3:02pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
If you listen to what the Prohibitionist actually say, their main reason is to terrorize blacks and disempower the liberals


Yeah, White Supremacists pushed for tough sentences for drug dealers.

293   CBOEtrader   ignore (5)   2018 Aug 29, 3:08pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
Just wiping out the pain killer market would have a massive upheaval on the pharma industry.


If it cant relieve pain w/o making you high then it's a specialty use pain killer, not the twice/day pill that tylenol or aspirin can be. Also what about sports or just being able to give it to a kid in school?

Then theres cost. Can this marijuana extract be given for a few pennies per dose?
294   FortWayne   ignore (4)   2018 Aug 29, 6:20pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Liberals tend to rewrite history to fit their own narrative.

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Aphroman says
If you listen to what the Prohibitionist actually say, their main reason is to terrorize blacks and disempower the liberals


Yeah, White Supremacists pushed for tough sentences for drug dealers.

295   curious2   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 29, 6:51pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FortWayne says
Liberals tend to rewrite history to fit their own narrative.


Some people who call themselves "liberal" or "conservative" or "libertarian" do that, but it is neither a liberal nor conservative nor libertarian thing to do. You have repeatedly done that regarding Rome among other topics.
296   Patrick   ignore (1)   2018 Aug 29, 7:08pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
Can this marijuana extract be given for a few pennies per dose?


Yes it can. The stuff is ridiculously cheap to make.
297   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 31, 4:11am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
Also what about sports or just being able to give it to a kid in school?


The NFLPA has been trying for a while now to get it off the banned substance list. So if America's favorite sport and athletes are wanting it, I don't think sports is an issue. While playing the game, sure I suppose it could have a detrimental effect. But you can't assume what they're taking anyway isn't detrimental to game day performance either.

The kids in school is a bit problematic, I'll agree there. I'd say it shouldn't be used as a pain reliever for minor things in a school setting. But if a kid has something serious, then sure, let them take it. There are varieties that don't get you nearly as high as what people would think. And if you actually NEED it daily, then you do build up a tolerance to the high.

If pain levels are that bad, it's likely that you're taking prescription anyway. And I presume you've read those labels on prescriptions. Wouldn't want my kid taking that shit, say after an appendicitis or gall bladder removal.

I'm not some hippy dippy, holistic guru guy either, but weed does work from personal experience. And other older folks I know who swore the stuff was the devil, gateway, etc. used it now at 60+ and swear by it. Believe me, before I tried it for pain reasons I thought the same thing, people just wanting to get high. Getting high isn't bad though either. Rather have stoned people walking around in public versus drunks if that's the most concerning side effect with no other physical, health damaging side effects. Get stoned and helps with pain.

I consume maybe 20 times a year roughly, when in states where legal. Mostly for recreation. So I'm not some pothead with an agenda to get high all the time without legal consequences.
298   CBOEtrader   ignore (5)   2018 Aug 31, 5:02am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
There are varieties that don't get you nearly as high as what people would think. And if you actually NEED it daily, then you do build up a tolerance to the high.


Cant they remove the "high" and leave the medicine?

My god if they could remove the "munchies" and perhaps the "stupid" from the high, it would be the perfect recreational drug.
299   CBOEtrader   ignore (5)   2018 Aug 31, 5:16am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
people just wanting to get high. Getting high isn't bad though either.


If you are a chronic cancer patient, getting high could be therapeutic. At least it takes your mind off your tragedy for a while. Any extreme pain and getting high is half the solution, like a morphine drip from a man w a missing leg.

I'm just saying I dont see the conspiracy to keep it down for money reasons... or perhaps there are negative monetary reasons for some corporations, but many other see huge $$$. This isnt some corporations vs the small man situation. Phillip Morris could make more than anyone if marijuana is legalized. https://hightimes.com/news/tobacco-companies-investing-cannabis/
300   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2018 Aug 31, 6:08am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
I'm just saying I dont see the conspiracy to keep it down for money reasons... or perhaps there are negative monetary reasons for some corporations, but many other see huge $$$. This isnt some corporations vs the small man situation. Phillip Morris could make more than anyone if marijuana is legalized. https://hightimes.com/news/tobacco-companies-investing-cannabis/


I understand this sentiment and get most people will go for commercial products if it were legalized. And new huge corps will spring out of nowhere as well. So I'm not arguing the big guys vs little guy point. There's massive money to be made because revenue from 1 acre is probably the equivalent of 500 acres of corn or soybeans (might be even more, just guessing).

Knowing our government though, they'll still probably make it illegal to grow a plant in your back yard if it was legalized. But IF growing was allowed, it's essentially free if you smoke it and minimal cost to make your own edibles. No one gets a cut in that market and that's the problem with allowing legal cannabis. Two plants can yield more then even the most potty of pots head could consume in a year. Nobody is making money off what's grown in your back yard and that's where there's a problem. If it reduces 10-15% of OTC and prescription pain killers, then it's going to impact things bigly.

And don't get me wrong, 80-90% of the customers, if it became legal, would be recreational users. But they're using it anyway and pot laws are very rarely ever enforced in non-legal states if you're out and about. So not much changes tomorrow if it becomes legal outside of new companies being born and new tax revenue that is just going to criminals now. Seems like a win win to me.

CBOEtrader says
My god if they could remove the "munchies" and perhaps the "stupid" from the high, it would be the perfect recreational drug.


I don't know, I can live with those side effects. Versus other prescription drugs out there? It's like getting a cut (Cannabis) versus being stabbed with a sword (oxy for example). Opioid pain killers legit do part of what's in the title, kill. Weed doesn't.
301   mell   ignore (1)   2018 Aug 31, 6:24am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
When you say “get high”, what do you think you mean? The euphoric feeling? Generally there’s not much impairment with cannabis consumption.


If you take an edible cookie say with 1/8 as serving and eat half of it, most people will either trip hard, pass out sleeping or throw up, or any combination thereof. Depending on the dosage impairment is significant. Less so when smoking as it is easier to titrate, but similar to alcohol you have a cumulative effect if you smoke too much too fast. It's all about dosage, in moderation alcohol is good for you, similar for cannabis. It should not be stronger regulated than alcohol.
302   mell   ignore (1)   2018 Aug 31, 6:44am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
mell says
Aphroman says
When you say “get high”, what do you think you mean? The euphoric feeling? Generally there’s not much impairment with cannabis consumption.


If you take an edible cookie say with 1/8 as serving and eat half of it, most people will either trip hard, pass out sleeping or throw up, or any combination thereof. Depending on the dosage impairment is significant. Less so when smoking as it is easier to titrate, but similar to alcohol you have a cumulative effect if you smoke too much. It's all about dosage, in moderation alcohol is good for you, similar for cannabis. It should not be stronger regulated than alcohol.


It’s actually not like alcohol at all, and you’re goingvto continue to see more and more science become mainstream showing that no amount of alcohol is good for you

T...


Alcohol in moderation is linked to slightly increased longevity simply mostly by protecting the heart. This correlation has been repeated in many studies. The recent study included deaths from impairment, self harm and tuberculosis and also included teenagers. If you take these off the numbers look different. There is a trade off wrt cardio vascular and diabetes benefits and increased cancer risk so I would not recommend drinking a lot unless you are partying once in a while.
303   CBOEtrader   ignore (5)   2018 Aug 31, 7:38am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
And of course, there’s an infinite amount of different chemovars (chemical varieties, some people call ‘strains’) and cannabis has been bred to have higher/lower amounts of THC a/o CBD. Some have much more myrcene or pinene than others, and the distribution of these olefinic natural organic hydrocarbons, or rather varying combinations, offer up far differing effects.


Did you go to weed university?
304   CBOEtrader   ignore (5)   2018 Aug 31, 9:22am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
Don't let those words Racist and Republican trigger you


Lol, you literally can't have a conversation w/o mislabeling republicans as racist. I've never voted for a Republican, ever...but this says a lot about your misdirected mindset.

Lay off the CNN and maybe you'd see the world more clearly
305   FortWayne   ignore (4)   2018 Aug 31, 10:03am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

curious2 says
FortWayne says
Liberals tend to rewrite history to fit their own narrative.


Some people who call themselves "liberal" or "conservative" or "libertarian" do that, but it is neither a liberal nor conservative nor libertarian thing to do. You have repeatedly done that regarding Rome among other topics.


How do you than explain the Rome thing?
306   jazz_music   ignore (6)   2018 Sep 20, 12:13pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
Free Market full of Capitalists, it's not going to happen by berating liberals.

There is no free market other than the one that exists structured by policies that guarantee the rich will always win using their built in advantages, which are A LOT of government services that us taxpayers pay for.

And they are trying to berate the ghost of liberals every day by using straw man epithets BECAUSE liberal tennents and values are the only hope for wage earners to regain some dignity and some freedom in this country.

You can take that to the bank.
307   Patrick   ignore (1)   2018 Sep 20, 9:17pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
liberal tennents and values are the only hope for wage earners to regain some dignity and some freedom in this country.


@jazz_music I appreciate your hope, but the reality is that Democratic policies have become much worse than those of Republicans, crushing wage earners by forcing them to compete directly with underpaid Chinese and Mexicans.

If you want reasonable wages, you must help stop the export of jobs and the import of illegals, both of which crush wages for the poorest American citizens, especially black people, far more effectively than any Republican policy has yet so far.

The Democrats have betrayed their supporters so massively and flagrantly that they should be disbanded as a party and reconstituted as the Labor Party, with the explicit goal of stopping the export of jobs and import of illegals.
308   just_dregalicious   ignore (0)   2018 Sep 20, 9:22pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
There is no free market other than the one that exists structured by policies that guarantee the rich will always win using their built in advantages, which are A LOT of government services that us taxpayers pay for.


Great! Lets cut the massive govt bureaucracy by say 75%!
309   jazz_music   ignore (6)   2018 Sep 20, 11:24pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
Democratic policies have become much worse than those of Republicans

Policies are the key difference between the 2 parties. Republicans tell you that if you fork over everything to the rich that they will reward you but that would never happen. This is a big reason why the GOP agenda must be defeated. There was never anything like the Powell Memorandum on the Democrat side, nor ALEC, nor Fox News, (who not only specifically pushes daily GOP talking points but also makes shit up) nor Heritage foundation, etc. etc.

If a better party comes then great, but they have to be able to win.

Nothing says we have to stop demonstrating for people's just causes if Clinton was president. She was already getting influenced by Sanders and Warren and she didn't even get into office yet. I like that. A responsive president. Just as an example she would have been a decent choice. She would have done a professionally competent job. She is one of us.

That train has left the station forever. So no more on that from me,
310   jazz_music   ignore (6)   2018 Sep 20, 11:28pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

just_dregalicious says
cut the massive govt bureaucracy by say 75%!

That's fine.

The most bloated part of the bureaucracy is security, enforcement, war.

Ever seen the pie chart budget?

The wealthy love the government. They get just what they pay for with laser-like precision. All that bullshit about incompetency is just to keep us away from the trough.

Pigs only.
311   jazz_music   ignore (6)   2018 Sep 20, 11:32pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
I appreciate your hope

Appreciate my point that the politics of inequality have ransacked our nation and will continue until we FORCE it to stop.

That means SHOWING GOP we don't buy their BS any more. Granted that forcing everybody who has decent wages into the stock market was a genius move, but that never has ended well, that and 24/7 propaganda has just bought cooperation with the wholesale destruction of jobs, by the shrinking population of those that still have something they can invest.

The very tenants of true liberalism threaten the corporate facism we live under. The corporatists are painfully aware that leaders in the Glorious Revolution of 1688, the American Revolution of 1776 and the French Revolution of 1789 used liberal philosophy to justify the armed overthrow of royal tyranny.

They present the solution that must be disparaged at all costs. Erased. Hidden behind a billion straw men each day so they are never found again.

REVIEW MATERIAL (nothing in here about any party)
http://patrick.net/post/1316883/2018-06-21-liberals
312   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Sep 21, 4:59am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
@jazz_music I appreciate your hope, but the reality is that Democratic policies have become much worse than those of Republicans, crushing wage earners by forcing them to compete directly with underpaid Chinese and Mexicans.

If you want reasonable wages, you must help stop the export of jobs and the import of illegals, both of which crush wages for the poorest American citizens, especially black people, far more effectively than any Republican policy has yet so far.

The Democrats have betrayed their supporters so massively and flagrantly that they should be disbanded as a party and reconstituted as the Labor Party, with the explicit goal of stopping the export of jobs and import of illegals.


Which policies are those exactly?

(I bet if you look, you'll find they were actually Republican policies....)
313   MrMagic   ignore (10)   2018 Sep 21, 7:38am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

anti_forum
314   Patrick   ignore (1)   2018 Sep 21, 8:01am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aphroman says
Since when did cheap foreign labor become a “liberal” thing and not a Republican thing?


@Aphroman Since Democrats developed an obsession with tranny bathrooms and various other divisive distractions from the real issues.

Sure, Republicans have always been the business party, but now with Trump, amazingly, they represent the concerns of labor much better than Democrats do.

The Democratic Party has forgotten its reason for existence.
315   Patrick   ignore (1)   2018 Sep 21, 8:02am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

LeonDurham says
Which policies are those exactly?


Let's start with Democratic support for mass illegal immigration and government benefits for illegals.
316   Elgatouno   ignore (2)   2018 Sep 21, 8:16am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
LeonDurham says
Which policies are those exactly?


Let's start with Democratic support for mass illegal immigration and government benefits for illegals.


Where is your proof for your statement?
317   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Sep 21, 8:16am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says

Let's start with Democratic support for mass illegal immigration and government benefits for illegals.


OK--can you back up the statement and show me ANY Democrat that is PRO illegal immigration? Just show me one.
318   LeonDurham   ignore (0)   2018 Sep 21, 8:17am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
@Aphroman Since Democrats developed an obsession with tranny bathrooms and various other divisive distractions from the real issues.

Sure, Republicans have always been the business party, but now with Trump, amazingly, they represent the concerns of labor much better than Democrats do.

The Democratic Party has forgotten its reason for existence.


It's funny that the only people I hear worried about Tranny bathrooms are always Republicans
319   Elgatouno   ignore (2)   2018 Sep 21, 8:18am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
but now with Trump, amazingly, they represent the concerns of labor much better than Democrats do


Is that why Trump hires unskilled foreign labor?
320   FortWayne   ignore (4)   2018 Sep 21, 8:18am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Who is giving out licenses to illegals in CA? Hint, not Republicans.

Rocketmanjoe says
Patrick says
LeonDurham says
Which policies are those exactly?


Let's start with Democratic support for mass illegal immigration and government benefits for illegals.


Where is your proof for your statement?

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