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1   Y   2015 May 27, 10:37pm  

Time to redefine "moron" to mean buttercups and honeysuckles...all is well with the world!

indigenous says

Egyptian Press Identifies Barack Obama As A Complete Moron

2   HEY YOU   2015 May 27, 11:56pm  

Obama is no more of a moron than the Democratic & Republican voter.

3   Obaid Karki   2015 May 28, 6:54am  

Don’t worthy the worthless. Egyptians ain't using the toilets without Obama’s permission. Check with Egyptians Obama’s gender first. Quit fucking NEWS by your sheer Stooopidity, illiteracy and ignorance of what’s going on down here.
It’s too early for Mediawhores to insult our Stooopidity and fuck Graveyard Shift Headlines. It ain’t Sunday yet. Girls!
Don’t bother moderating. Go ahead and delete it. Its reblogged.

4   Blurtman   2015 May 28, 7:04am  

Meaningful talking head commentary from a country that has it's act together.

5   🎂 Tenpoundbass   2015 May 28, 7:05am  

Climate Change is his number one concern...

Yeah, That and FIFA.

Hey World! Still want America to play football with you?

7   HEY YOU   2015 May 28, 7:25am  

Morons & their teleprompters.

http://americablog.com/2009/03/what-kind-of-moron-uses-a-teleprompter.html

Rep/Con/Teas aren't morons, they just enjoy being retarded.

8   dcinsd   2015 May 28, 7:35am  

,!!!

9   Strategist   2015 May 28, 7:44am  

indigenous says

Egyptian Press Identifies Barack Obama As A Complete Moron

Somewhat out of context, but the video was still brilliant. Democrat Presidents do tend to be weak when dealing with threats like ISIS, which leads to Republican Presidents having to clean up after them.

10   tatupu70   2015 May 28, 7:47am  

Strategist says

Somewhat out of context, but the video was still brilliant. Democrat Presidents do tend to be weak when dealing with threats like ISIS, which leads to Republican Presidents having to clean up after them.

lol--yes, W. sure cleaned things up, didn't he?

11   Strategist   2015 May 28, 8:03am  

tatupu70 says

Strategist says

Somewhat out of context, but the video was still brilliant. Democrat Presidents do tend to be weak when dealing with threats like ISIS, which leads to Republican Presidents having to clean up after them.

lol--yes, W. sure cleaned things up, didn't he?

Bush did screw up, but he was still a tough President who put a lid on Al Qaeda growing. Reagan did a wonderful job cleaning up after all the crap Carter left behind.
We need tough Presidents who discourage the trouble makers from the get go. Bowing before the King of the world's greatest human rights abusing country is a sign of weakness, that only encourages the like of ISIS.

12   socal2   2015 May 28, 8:17am  

tatupu70 says

lol--yes, W. sure cleaned things up, didn't he?

When Bush left office, Iraq was stable and holding elections. Now Iraq is holding slave auctions in Ramadi and Mosul.

When Bush left office, the Arab Spring was sweeping the Region and ordinary Iranians were marching in the streets to try and overthrow the Mullahs.

Almost 7 years later, the entire Region is on fire. In every case Obama backed the wrong horse. He foolishly backed the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, ignored the people in Iran to suck up to the Mullahs for a future nuke deal, gave false red-lines to Syria for using chemical weapons, and inexplicably overthrew Gadaffi in Libya creating an even bigger void as he pulled every last US troop out of Iraq.

And this is to say nothing of the cock-up with Russia as it continues to invade their former slave colonies in Ukraine.

History won't be kind to Obama and Hillary for their foreign policy.

13   tatupu70   2015 May 28, 8:29am  

socal2 says

When Bush left office, Iraq was stable and holding elections. Now Iraq is holding slave auctions in Ramadi and Mosul.

And how much was that "stability" costing us in treasure and lives?

socal2 says

Almost 7 years later, the entire Region is on fire. In every case Obama backed the wrong horse. He foolishly backed the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, ignored the people in Iran to suck up to the Mullahs for a future nuke deal, gave false red-lines to Syria for using chemical weapons, and inexplicably overthrew Gadaffi in Libya creating an even bigger void as he pulled every last US troop out of Iraq.

There is no right answer in the Middle East. You can either back dictators that are friendly to the US or you can back freedom and potentially end up with Islamic regimes and more chaos.

socal2 says

History won't be kind to Obama and Hillary for their foreign policy.

I won't pretend that the current Administration has been particularly adept at foreign policy, but people who live in current times often greatly misjudge how things will be viewed historically.

14   tatupu70   2015 May 28, 8:34am  

Strategist says

Bush did screw up, but he was still a tough President who put a lid on Al Qaeda growing

You're kidding, right? There was no greater Al Qaeda recruiting tool than the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars. He probably increased the number of terrorists immensely.

http://www.alternet.org/story/48620/the_war_on_terror_is_the_leading_cause_of_terrorism

http://www.truth-out.org/archive/item/68973:the-iraq-effect-war-has-increased-terrorism-sevenfold-worldwide

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7460-2005Jan13.html

15   socal2   2015 May 28, 9:09am  

tatupu70 says

And how much was that "stability" costing us in treasure and lives?

At the time, it probably could have been maintained with less cost then we are currently spending on South Korea to keep that stability (10 to 20 thousand troops). Granted, the initial cost was very high (higher than many predicted). But that makes Obama and Hillary's decision to throw it all away even worse.

tatupu70 says

There is no right answer in the Middle East. You can either back dictators that are friendly to the US or you can back freedom and potentially end up with Islamic regimes and more chaos.

Or we could have continued doing what we were doing in Iraq before Obama. Overthrow the dictator and stick around long enough to build up the governing institutions to prevent the Islamic nutters from taking over.

tatupu70 says

I won't pretend that the current Administration has been particularly adept at foreign policy, but people who live in current times often greatly misjudge how things will be viewed historically.

I agree. That is why I think history will show that walking away was worse strategically and morally than the initial invasion. Overthrowing Gadaffi and leaving another void after learning everything we just did in Iraq was even worse since lessons were so recently learned at great cost.

16   tatupu70   2015 May 28, 9:22am  

socal2 says

Overthrow the dictator and stick around long enough to build up the governing institutions to prevent the Islamic nutters from taking over.

So, forever then?

And what do you think a permanent US military presence in Iraq would do for Islamic terror recruiting?

17   tatupu70   2015 May 28, 9:25am  

socal2 says

Overthrowing Gadaffi and leaving another void after learning everything we just did in Iraq was even worse since lessons were so recently learned at great cost.

So, you think we should have continued supporting a dictator? Why do you hate freedom? Shouldn't Libyans have the same opportunity to choose their own government?

18   Vicente   2015 May 28, 9:36am  

socal2 says

Overthrowing Gadaffi and leaving another void after learning everything we just did in Iraq was even worse since lessons were so recently learned at great cost.

Which doesn't explain why GOP was hot to depose Assad in Syria.

GOP have a hard time letting go of that narrative where we topple leaders and nothing bad happens. Until it's shoved in their face that groups like ISIS grow in that kind of power vaccum and civil war, then they mumble and fade into the background.

19   socal2   2015 May 28, 9:58am  

tatupu70 says

So, forever then?

And what do you think a permanent US military presence in Iraq would do for Islamic terror recruiting?

At least as long as Korea, Germany and Japan. I think our longtime presence in those countries paid off pretty well.

Is it a coincidence that the first time in 50+ years there are no US armored brigades left Europe, we have Russia re-invading their former slave colonies in Eastern Europe?

20   RWSGFY   2015 May 28, 9:59am  

Vicente says

socal2 says

Overthrowing Gadaffi and leaving another void after learning everything we just did in Iraq was even worse since lessons were so recently learned at great cost.

Which doesn't explain why GOP was hot to depose Assad in Syria.

"Deposing" is not a problem. "Leaving a void" is.

We've seen world with "Team America World Police" on duty and without. The latter turned out to be much worse.

21   socal2   2015 May 28, 10:01am  

tatupu70 says

So, you think we should have continued supporting a dictator? Why do you hate freedom? Shouldn't Libyans have the same opportunity to choose their own government?

Who says anything about supporting? Are we "supporting" North Korea since we aren't invading their country?

Besides, Gadaffi was starting to play ball after he saw Saddam pulled out of his spider hole and gave up all his WMD programs.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/3335965.stm

22   Rew   2015 May 28, 12:33pm  

socal2 says

When Bush left office, Iraq was stable and holding elections. Now Iraq is holding slave auctions in Ramadi and Mosul.

Holding elections? Yes.
Stable? Far from it!

It is false to think we have a sustained national will and appetite to "nation build" in Central Asia/Mid-East. All blood is on the Bush administrations hands for the Iraq War. It would be a huge disservice to think that that war was anything less than using our passions and fear built off of 9-11, to go to war against a state we full well knew wasn't the responsible party. To suggest "we didn't know" is the gravest lie of all.

---------------------------
All US War Aims Failed:
---------------------------
• No WMDs of significance : already destroyed in first gulf war.
• Stop Al-Queda : no links or Al-Queda there. In-fact Saddam did a great job keeping them out and in check prior!
• Stable Iraq : the Bush administration had no plan for "winning the peace" from the start. They disband the Iraqi military and backed Maliki! Would be laughable if it wasn't just so darn tragic.

socal2 says

Is it a coincidence that the first time in 50+ years there are no US armored brigades left Europe, we have Russia re-invading their former slave colonies in Eastern Europe?

It's the proposals for Ukraine entering NATO and having a US base set up 300 miles from Moscow. It has nothing to do with us having armor left in Europe or not. Ask yourself what the US would do, if Russia was installing a military base in Mexico, and folding it into it's own alliance of nations (Move D.C. to Huston for an even better picture)?

You're f***ing right we would launch a covert military campaign into the region!

You don't treat Russia like a 3rd world country. That's our mistake. Let's be clear on who is doing that too. That's our hawkish anti-Russian, we think we can do what we want we are the only Super Power left, side. Not our, "let's draw down forces in Europe" side. Putin is holding onto control of Russia off of moxy, bravado, and instilling national pride in his people. It's state craft which looks a lot like Regan, and the Russian's need it, because things haven't gone that well for them in the past 20 years. You still beat Russia with blue-jeans and coca-cola ... not armor and bullets. Especially today when we ARE so much stronger (but lets not fool ourselves : we aren't ready to get into a hot war with a first world country).

I'll be shocked beyond belief if foreign policy even rates in the 2016 election cycle. It will be typical wedge issue fun. The reason is, our foreign policy has been the same under Democrat or Repub since 1970. We seem, for whatever reason, to not be able to vote to influence that. Hmmm.

23   zzyzzx   2015 May 28, 12:45pm  

Rew says

It's the proposals for Ukraine entering NATO and having a US base set up 30 miles from Moscow. I

It's way more than 30 miles..LOL

24   Rew   2015 May 28, 2:01pm  

zzyzzx says

It's way more than 30 miles..LOL

Your map of the Ukraine illustrates what?
Editing orignal post : I dropped a zero. 300 not 30. If you want be really pedantic about it 350+. And the Huston to Mexico comparison is spot on at about 350 miles as well.

25   socal2   2015 May 28, 2:25pm  

Rew says

Holding elections? Yes.

Stable? Far from it!

It is false to think we have a sustained national will and appetite to "nation build" in Central Asia/Mid-East.

You really don't think America could have sustained 10,000 troops in Iraq in training and peace-keeping mode for another decade? US troops had already completed the hard work, we were just about to enjoy the fruits of their massive sacrifice and Obama and Hillary threw it all away to have a campaign talking point for the 2012 election.

Again, when Obama took office:

- Iraq was holding elections and largely peaceful
- AQI got their asses handed to them and were licking their wounds in Syria
- Arab Spring was sweeping the Sunni/Muslim world
- Iranian people were protesting in the streets demanding the Mullah's step down
- Gadaffi gave up his WMDs

Obama was in the same great position Bush I and Clinton were in after the implosion of Communist Russia in the early 1990's and just needed to consolidate the gains.

26   socal2   2015 May 28, 2:27pm  

Rew says

Holding elections? Yes.

Stable? Far from it!

Iraq was so stable in 2010, Joe Biden was bragging that Iraq would be the Obama Administration's greatest achievement.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/HOcPCrGRs6k

27   tatupu70   2015 May 28, 2:33pm  

socal2 says

Arab Spring was sweeping the Sunni/Muslim world

- Iranian people were protesting in the streets demanding the Mullah's step down

- Gadaffi gave up his WMDs

Which do you want--Arab spring or Gadaffi? Not sure you can have both.

28   socal2   2015 May 28, 2:44pm  

tatupu70 says

Which do you want--Arab spring or Gadaffi? Not sure you can have both.

It's not an either/or.

Without NATO bombing Libya, Gadaffi most likely would have held onto power. Gadaffi was already playing ball after the Iraq war by giving up his WMD's and exposing the AQ Khan Pakistani nuke proliferation ring.

Obama and Hillary promised "Smart Power" with their foreign policy and could have used the Arab Spring to influence the Mubaraks, Gadaffis, Assads, and Mullahs to open up and implement some reform and prevent the entire Region burning to the ground like we are seeing now.

29   Dan8267   2015 May 28, 2:47pm  

I'm no fan of Obama. I've gone on the record multiple times stating that he is the worst president ever, even worse than Bush. However, anyone who calls Obama a moron but didn't call Bush one ten years ago is a complete imbecile. Compared to Bush, Obama is a Noble Prize winner. Oh wait, Obama did get the Nobel Prize simply for not being Bush. That's how much of a moronic warmonger Bush was.

It's funny how conservatives bitch and moan about tiny examples in Democrats of things that Republicans do on a massive scale.
- Cheating on one's wife.
- Raising the national debt.
- Compromising national security.
- Raising taxes (yeah, Reagan, 'nuff said)
- Wasting trillions of dollars of tax payer money.
- Printing dollars like there's no tomorrow.
- Lack of intelligence.
- Back door conversations regarding policies.
- Going to war for political reasons (wagging the dog).
- Not going to war for political reasons.
- "Bad intelligence"
- Not keeping a public record of electronic correspondence.
- Kowtowing to lobbyists and other organizations.
- Performing weird foreign gestures of respect (like bowing or holding hands).
- Letting religion affect law.
- Requiring everyone to buy health insurance.
- Creating or using "czars".
- Issuing executive orders.
- Using executive privilege.
- Having too power of an executive branch.
- Acting in the executive branch without Congress's approval on an action.
- Subsidizing or bailing out private corporations. (auto companies, Solesta, banks, etc.)

Conservatives are complete an utter hypocrites. It's no surprise that Republicans vote against their own bills, health care plans, and military plans as soon as Obama supports them. Utter hypocrisy.

And this is coming from someone who still thinks Obama was the worst president ever.

30   tatupu70   2015 May 28, 3:56pm  

socal2 says

It's not an either/or.

Without NATO bombing Libya, Gadaffi most likely would have held onto power. Gadaffi was already playing ball after the Iraq war by giving up his WMD's and exposing the AQ Khan Pakistani nuke proliferation ring.

Obama and Hillary promised "Smart Power" with their foreign policy and could have used the Arab Spring to influence the Mubaraks, Gadaffis, Assads, and Mullahs to open up and implement some reform and prevent the entire Region burning to the ground like we are seeing now.

So, Arab Spring was good as long as it accomplishes nothing and the dictators stay in power? OK then.

You're in a dream world if you think any of those dictators was going to really implement reforms.

31   MisdemeanorRebel   2015 May 28, 4:59pm  

Corruption or Fanaticism, those are the two choices. Kerry's imaginary good social democrats/neoliberals don't exist outside a handful of expats living in Geneva.

32   Strategist   2015 May 28, 5:55pm  

bgamall4 says

Strategist says

Bush did screw up, but he was still a tough President who put a lid on Al Qaeda growing.

He was a criminal you idiot.

Now that's the Gary I know. :)

33   socal2   2015 May 28, 5:55pm  

tatupu70 says

So, Arab Spring was good as long as it accomplishes nothing and the dictators stay in power? OK then.

You're in a dream world if you think any of those dictators was going to really implement reforms.

In my dream world, I hoped for a bit of in between. I realize we are dealing with some primitive and brutal regimes and cultures that aren't going to turn in liberal secular democracies over night. You can't expect or even want revolution in every country at once, let alone America invading everyone.

But I did hope capturing and hanging Saddam and showing the resolve to double down and turn Iraq around with the surge would focus the minds of the Jihadis, Gadaffis, Assads and Mullahs of the world. I thought Arabs and Iranians seeing Iraqis and even super primitive Afghanis waving their purple fingers voting in elections and girls going to schools would empower the majority Arabs to demand better governing from their rulers.

And it appeared in 2008-10 that a big chunk of the Region's secular and moderate groups were indeed rising up and demanding reform. Even in Iran, street protesters were literally begging for Obama's help.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/04/iranian-protesters-obama_n_345220.html

I think we missed a BIG opportunity to help empower the secular and moderate groups. Instead Obama backed the Muslim Brotherhood and is now dealing with the Mullahs.

Now the region is on fire.

Bush handed Obama a much more stable and hopeful Middle East than Obama is going to hand his predecessor.

34   Strategist   2015 May 28, 6:02pm  

Dan8267 says

I'm no fan of Obama. I've gone on the record multiple times stating that he is the worst president ever, even worse than Bush.

So who are you gonna vote for?

35   curious2   2015 May 28, 6:07pm  

indigenous says

Egyptian Press....

say all sorts of things, but since when do you watch Egyption TV? They say "Allah is great" or "Sisi is great" or whatever but I don't see you quoting them about that. I don't see the point of quoting sources that lack credibility, and in this instance even you don't find them credible on anything except where they happen to say something you wanted to hear.

36   socal2   2015 May 28, 6:16pm  

curious2 says

say all sorts of things, but since when do you watch Egyption TV? They say "Allah is great" or "Sisi is great" or whatever but I don't see you quoting them about that. I don't see the point of quoting sources that lack credibility, and in this instance even you don't find them credible on anything except where they happen to say something you wanted to hear.

Al Sisi in Egypt has at least been saying the right things. He directly challenged the Imams in one of Sunni Islam's oldest universities earlier this year. He was also the first Egyptian President to attend a Coptic Mass for Christmas.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/notable-quotable-al-sisi-1420760154

A breath of fresh air compared to the Muslim Brotherhood.

37   indigenous   2015 May 28, 6:33pm  

curious2 says

hey happen to say something you wanted to hear.

Pretty much it, I just like to see O's name drug through the mud, I never get tired of it.

38   komputodo   2015 May 28, 8:12pm  

bgamall4 says

He was a criminal you idiot.

who was the last president that wasn't a criminal?

39   Dan8267   2015 May 28, 8:17pm  

komputodo says

who was the last president that wasn't a criminal?

Clinton followed by Carter then Ford then Kennedy then Eisenhower.

Although Ford did pardon a criminal.

40   indigenous   2015 May 28, 8:18pm  

komputodo says

who was the last president that wasn't a criminal?

Eisenhower maybe, Coolidge for sure, Cleveland maybe, my avitar Van Buren for sure, Washington maybe.

The most crooked? LBJ, FDR, Wilson, Lincoln

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