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By curious2 following x   2015 Sep 22, 6:55pm 27,383 views   97 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


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81   HEYYOU   ignore (13)   2018 May 14, 3:47pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Feux Follets says
Even if you won't borrow money yourself, they borrow it in your name and tax you to pay the interest.


This "they" you speak of, are any Democrats & Republicans that the brilliant electorate choose.
Those that vote against their own best interest get what they deserve. It sad that they are only capable of one of two decision,because there are no others.
Watching FOX,following breitbart & Trump rallies/ CNN,MSNBC & Democratic Underground gives one some great examples of brainwashing.

I do respect ~126,000,000 voters determination to defend their brainwashing.
I'm always looking for the best out of the clever ape.
82   curious2   ignore (1)   2018 May 20, 4:39pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Feux Follets says
Steve Jobs was a Republican


Actually, all of his political donations were to Democrats, and Apple employees tend to favor Democrats by a huge margin.
83   TrumpingTits   ignore (0)   2018 May 20, 5:14pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

Patrick says
they borrow it in your name and tax you to pay the interest.

Hence the SOLE reasons (from the bankster's point of view) for the Fed and the income tax. It is no coincidence that both were enacted at the same time.

Pay attention to the bold part below, kiddies. Cause there will be a test later on this.

The Fed exists to create money its owners don't have to loan the money to America to put it into hock. The income tax exists to PAY THE INTEREST (not principle!) on that debt.

It didn't happen over night and those pesky politicians paid down the vast debt the nation built up during WWII. BUT, after dumping the gold standard unleashed the Monster of Usury, the plan kicked into high gear and we have been living under it ever since.
84   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 May 20, 5:20pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

It's all about forcing people to labor for the benefit of the top 0.001%.

The British were having a hard time getting East African pastoralists to be obedient servants in the 1800's until they imposed a tax on all of them, payable in British silver coins only. Where were cow herders going to get British silver coins? Only by working for their British masters.

We basically have the same thing today. Everyone needs Federal Reserve Notes to pay taxes of various kinds. The only source of these Notes is the Fed. Therefore, everyone indirectly works for the Fed, which is a private corporation, not the government.
85   TrumpingTits   ignore (0)   2018 May 20, 5:32pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

Patrick says
It's all about forcing people to labor for the benefit of the top 0.001%.

The British were having a hard time getting East African pastoralists to be obedient servants in the 1800's until they imposed a tax on all of them, payable in British silver coins only. Where were cow herders going to get British silver coins? Only by working for their British masters.

We basically have the same thing today. Everyone needs Federal Reserve Notes to pay taxes of various kinds. The only source of these Notes is the Fed. Therefore, everyone indirectly works for the Fed, which is a private corporation, not the government.


Yup. Stefan Molyneux first became a big name on the internet because of his Youtube lecture The Story of Your Enslavement.



This is why the plantation owners actually came out ahead after the slaves were freed and the sharecropping system was implemented.

And why future tech that allows people to become more autarkic -- either in small groups or individually -- will NOT be popular with the PTB. Because more individual ownership/control of the means of production = less monetization of economic activity. Less monetization of economic activity means less revenue from 'human farming'...both private and governmental.

So, the ability for a small group of people to GO GALT! via bootstrapping up an Atomically Precise Manufacturing facility that could produce everything one would need for food, power, clothing, transportation, housing and even -- eventually -- most health care, will not go down well with the Big Boys. Oh they could care less about the less valuable human slaves (welfare recipients, for example). Let them live in favellas under the freeway overpasses for all they care. But the productive folks who decide to stop being good, hardworking debt/tax slaves....no way, Jose!
87   curious2   ignore (1)   2018 May 31, 1:39pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

marcus says
online ugliness promoted by Russian trolls some of which possibly occur as comments here on Patrick.net by people (I ignore) posing as programmers.


Here is a partial list of examples of online ugliness promoted on PatNet by a person posing as a math teacher. Is that a Russian troll?
89   Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 6, 2:47am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

curious2 says
The term "narrow" applies to the opinion itself, not the vote count:


Of course one has to "assume" the readers actually read beyond the headlines which as this forum confirms on a daily basis is far from the case.

Read headlines, jump to conclusions and proclaim MAGA and Winning !
90   Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 12, 5:52pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

@Patrick - how come I am unable to log in right now unless I ask for my password and then get a link sent to my email ?
91   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 12, 7:00pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Huh, that should never happen.

It does set a new password when you get that link set and display a message like this:

Your password is ${ password } and you are now logged in

Did you use the new password?
92   Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 13, 2:19am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Patrick says
It does set a new password when you get that link set and display a message like this:

Your password is ${ password } and you are now logged in

Did you use the new password?


@Patrick. I am getting logged in however I am not seeing anything to indicate what the new password is and no way to check it on the profile details as well.
93   Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 17, 11:40am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

@Patrick. If you can somehow go in and alter the title of the thread on house flipping, that would be good. There are now more than 3 articles on the entire. thread.

The real estate news on Seoul I put on the flying below the radar thread is telling but not because of any Trump-Kim effect.

This has been something that has been a long time coming and is going to ripple out across the region and has been in parts of Singapore, Malaysia etc...
94   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 17, 11:45am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Which thread do you mean? You should be able to edit the title of any thread you created.
96   Feux Follets   ignore (0)   2018 Jun 17, 12:04pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Progressive Insurance is owned by a "commie" because someone donates to the ACLU but a Sharia Saudi Prince with a stake in Faux news is okay - go figure. The home of Hannity etc. and the only non-fake news out there.
97   curious2   ignore (1)   2018 Jun 20, 2:18pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Patrick says

My politics have already been hijacked by reality. I used to be a leftist true believer who just could not understand how the right was so easily manipulated. Then I started understanding the fundamental self-interest and fears which drive the surface rationalizations on both sides


#MeToo. I remember even signaling virtue by approving of Red Ken's Muslim schools in London, mainly because Margaret Thatcher opposed them. I see now she was right about them.

Many years ago, there was a saying that the further a person is from events, the more likely he is to believe the press coverage; conversely, the nearer to events, the more likely he is to see the errors in the press coverage. I tried to find the exact quotation, but it is buried now under a haystack of recent articles about fake news. BTW, Scott Adams had a really good comment on fake news, balancing outright falsehoods that fool small audiences vs mainstream presentations that are cherry-picked and spun to mislead mass audiences.

In the USA, major parties function similarly to TV networks, aggregating audiences and selling them to corporate sponsors. If you watch the evening "news," you can see a series of misleading stories promoted by public relations firms, interspersed with advertisements for products that would probably make you worse off.

An interesting documentary on the global arms industry included an interview with an arms dealer who said politicians are mostly mid-level sales executives for arms manufacturers. During the Obama administration, a commerce department official proclaimed himself proud that America had 60% of the global arms export market.

Personally, I am either blessed or cursed with a sharp memory. I remember candidate Obama campaigning against "Hillary's Plan," now called Obamacare. I remember Democrats voting against that plan, and voting for him instead. Then, I remember seeing Democrats spin 180 degrees to embrace "Hillary's Plan," now called Obamacare, or Obamneycare, since even President Obama admitted it was the same thing as Romneycare. The Romneycare data disproved all the Democrats' promises about what Obamacare would do: Democrats promised insurance premiums would go down due to fewer emergency hospitalizations, but Romneycare showed both premiums and emergency hospitalizations went up. (Medicare data show most of Medicare's emergency hospitalizations result from Rx drugs, and a PatNet user recounted his own experience going to a hospital emergency room due to a prescribed SSRI.) As I saw Democrats spin 180 degrees, saying the opposite of what they had said just a year before, I saw partisan identity persuaded people much more than obective reality, no matter how thoroughly proved.

Scott Adams wrote about that too, predicting President Trump would change people's perceptions of reality itself. He wrote that people are not evolved to perceive objective reality; people are evolved to believe whatever illusions enable them to survive and reproduce, and those tend to involve agreeing with the tribe.

After seeing through the Democrats' suddenly changed position on health care, I started to see other problems too, e.g. Democrats' support for Islam. Hillary Clinton started the "tradition" of White House iftar dinners, around the same time the Clinton administration bombed America's Serbian allies on behalf of KSA and other Petrodollar states. Russians tried to point out that the Serbians had been allies of the USA during WWII, while the Bozniaks had joined the Nazi SS, but Petrodollars talk louder than history. The Serbs got bombed and prosecuted as war criminals, Islam retained its European territory, and the Clintons and their foundation received tens of million$ of Petrodollars from KSA. Spreading Islam is 180 degrees opposite to everything "liberal" Democrats claim to believe in, and yet it is the policy of the Democratic party.

But now even President Trump, possibly the first President to speak candidly about Islam since John Quincy Adams, celebrated an iftar dinner.

In 1968, at the height of the illegal war in Viet Nam, Gore Vidal said there was no difference between the two major parties because they both get their money from the same sources. At this point, Democrats are more likely to identify as "liberal", and Republicans are more likely to identify as "conservative", but both parties seem neither liberal nor conservative. Two Presidents in a row have doubled the national debt, and the current incumbent seems likely to do the same if he can. Republicans increased federal power with the "Patriot Act", and Democrats went even further with Obamacare. Both parties agree on what matters most to them: consolidate their own power, including especially in the form of revenue/spending.

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