Bernie would love this! Police:Tip-offs wanted on under 6-euro pizzas
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Bernie would love this! Police:Tip-offs wanted on under 6-euro pizzas

By gsr following x   2015 Oct 20, 10:58pm 7,758 views   30 comments   watch   quote     share  


Police anti-grey market measure: Tip-offs wanted on under 6-euro pizzas

Police are requesting citizens to inform them of pizzerias that offer their meals at less than 6 euros each. Their campaign is directed mainly at social media, where people have been quick to ridicule the seemingly trivial measure, but one which the authorities say is the first decisive step towards rooting out the country's grey economy.

Police are asking people to report sightings of pizza restaurants that offer pizzas at less than 6 euros as an anti-grey market measure.

"We need tips from citizens. You can post them on our web site or contact us on social media. Unless a pizza is on temporary sale there is no way a legitimate establishment can offer pizza at less than 6 euros," claims Minna Immonen from the Uusimaa police department.

The social media call for help caused confusion on Monday as members of the public thought that "Anne" and "Jutta" – real financial crime researchers working with the police – were fake officers posting through a bogus Twitter account. Immonen is their supervisor.

No more 3.90 euro pizzas

The few weeks the campaign is scheduled to last will be followed by further measures to combat the grey economy and unlawful financial activities. Police say that instead of arousing outrage their pizza campaign should entice the public to work with them, not least of all because the issue represents millions of dodged tax euros.

"It's important to remind people that a low price is not the only indicator, and that not being offered or given a receipt is another red flag people should be aware of," says Immonen. "As nice as a cheap pizza seems, especially with food prices as high as they are, too cheap and it makes it possible for some entrepreneurs to hatch money-grabbing schemes."

Police surveillance has already removed some of the wildest discounts from menus. Detective Inspector Immonen says that the lowest price she has encountered was a 3.90 euro pizza in Pasila, Helsinki.

Police have illustrated the cost of making a single pizza as part of their anti-grey market campaign. They graphically show that a third of the cost goes towards ingredients, 36.5 percent is spent on wages, 11.5 percent on VAT, 9.6 percent on rents, while other fees represent 8 percent of the total cost.

http://yle.fi/uutiset/police_anti-grey_market_measure_tip-offs_wanted_on_under_6-euro_pizzas/8375541
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1 bob2356   ignore (1)   2015 Oct 21, 6:01am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote        

What relevance is this to bernie? Stupid post.

2 BlueSardine   ignore (1)   2015 Oct 21, 6:05am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

An example of the extreme socialist state controlling everything, right down to the pricing of a pizza.

gsr says

What relevance is this to bernie? Stupid post

3 gsr   ignore (0)   2015 Oct 21, 7:47am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

bob2356 says

What relevance is this to bernie? Stupid post.

They are searching for tax dollars in pizza.

4 gsr   ignore (0)   2015 Oct 21, 7:50am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

bob2356 says

What relevance is this to bernie? Stupid post.

BTW, don't you know that Bernie loves Scandinavian governance?

5 HEY YOU   ignore (7)   2015 Oct 21, 11:55am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Police? Just another form of Redistribution Socialism.

Why should I have to pay any taxes for anything that benefits D & R voters. Assholes want good roads/infrastructure,military,etc.?

FUCKING SOCIALISTS! Taking my money for their benefit.
If you want it,you need to take personal responsibility & pay your own way.
Keep your hand out of my wallet.

6 TwoScoopsMcGee   ignore (1)   2015 Oct 21, 12:00pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

gsr says

They are searching for tax dollars in pizza.

Yeah, because the Pizza companies AREN'T PAYING TAXES OR COLLECTING SALES TAXES. The Police are putting up a graph to show the well educated Finish Populace to show there's no way to price those pizzas at under 6 Euros after accounting for minimum costs of ingredients, wages, taxes, etc.

Commie Socialism! The Military, Roads, Schools, all run on Ayn Rand Happy Juice milked from Unicorns!

7 gsr   ignore (0)   2015 Oct 21, 1:15pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

thunderlips11 says

Commie Socialism! The Military, Roads, Schools, all run on Ayn Rand Happy Juice milked from Unicorns!

As long as you and your ilk know what you are getting into. If you want to have Stasi policing cheap pizza, don't complain when NSA stores everyone's phone record to find a few terrorists. Welcome NSA with open arms.

8 bob2356   ignore (1)   2015 Oct 21, 1:23pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

SoftShell says

An example of the extreme socialist state controlling everything, right down to the pricing of a pizza.

gsr says

What relevance is this to bernie? Stupid post

You must have read a different article somewhere and gotten confused. No one is controlling the price of anything in this one.

gsr says

bob2356 says

What relevance is this to bernie? Stupid post.

They are searching for tax dollars in pizza.

You don't pay sales tax on pizza? The pizza companies where you live don't do corporate and employee taxes? How does that work?

9 TwoScoopsMcGee   ignore (1)   2015 Oct 21, 1:24pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

gsr says

As long as you and your ilk know what you are getting into. If you want to have Stasi policing cheap pizza, don't complain when NSA stores everyone's phone record to find a few terrorists. Welcome NSA with open arms.

Dude, there is no Stasi policing pizza.

Try running a Pizza Place in any of the 48 States that collect Sales taxes and making your pizza cheaper than the competition by not collecting tax, never giving receipts, accepting cash only, and see how long it is before the State or Local Revenue Enforcement Officials show up and shut your ass down and send you to the slammer.

The American Stasi is reading all your emails and recording all your phone calls, even though they can't protect their personal emails.

10 gsr   ignore (0)   2015 Oct 21, 1:44pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

thunderlips11 says

Try running a Pizza Place in any of the 48 States that collect Sales taxes and making your pizza cheaper than the competition by not collecting tax, never giving receipts, accepting cash only, and see how long it is before the State or Local Revenue Enforcement Officials show up and shut your ass down and send you to the slammer.

Sigh!
People do not intend the break the law unless the draconian law breaks them.
If the taxes are lower, people don't mind paying them. That's how you get more revenue with lower taxes.

Most of you still don't understand why big corporations in the country stash their money in Ireland. Even God cannot help you.

11 TwoScoopsMcGee   ignore (1)   2015 Oct 21, 1:47pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Bullcrap. These pizza places that sprouted up are probably run by Third Worlders out of their apartments, breaking a variety of laws from food safety to business licensing and not paying taxes (or likely, wages).

They are probably receiving all kinds of "Migrant Aid" to the tune of a thousand Euros a month plus free housing and medical care, while selling pizzas without tax or wages for spending money.

12 gsr   ignore (0)   2015 Oct 21, 1:47pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

bob2356 says

You don't pay sales tax on pizza? The pizza companies where you live don't do corporate and employee taxes? How does that work?

OK, why do you think people still use marijuana when they are illegal? How does that work? I guess you like it when DEA breaks into peoples' homes and shoots children if one person in the house happens to posses marijuana?

13 TwoScoopsMcGee   ignore (1)   2015 Oct 21, 1:49pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

What happens to all the dead people murdered that the police don't catch?

Well, the police don't catch many murderers, in fact the national average closure rate is only about 2/3rd, so let us make murder legal.

14 bob2356   ignore (1)   2015 Oct 21, 1:53pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

gsr says

Sigh!

People do not intend the break the law unless the draconian law breaks them.

If the taxes are lower, people don't mind paying them. That's how you get more revenue with lower taxes.

That's the biggest pile of steaming dog crap dropped on patnet in a long time. Jesus, the laffer curve thing has been proven wrong for 35 years. You still living in 1980 with unicorns and sugar plum fairies on your wall?

The people who intend to break the law will break the law no matter what the taxes are. Simple as that. Do you ever go out in the real world?

15 bob2356   ignore (1)   2015 Oct 21, 1:55pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

gsr says

bob2356 says

You don't pay sales tax on pizza? The pizza companies where you live don't do corporate and employee taxes? How does that work?

OK, why do you think people still use marijuana when they are illegal? How does that work? I guess you like it when DEA breaks into peoples' homes and shoots children if one person in the house happens to posses marijuana?

That makes zero sense.

16 TwoScoopsMcGee   ignore (1)   2015 Oct 21, 2:06pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

bob2356 says

That makes zero sense.

Right, how did we get from the Finnish Police explaining to the Public that legally selling pizzas under 6 Euros is an impossibility, to the DEA in the USA throwing grenades in cribs?

This is what fanaticism looks like: Comparing routine tax collection and legal compliance with overzealous enforcement, that by the way is largely fueled by the Private Prison Industry.

17 TwoScoopsMcGee   ignore (1)   2015 Oct 21, 2:19pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Yep, Highest Profit-to-Revenue ratio in the History of the World.

US Multinationals are particularly drowning in money, doing nothing but buying back stock and increasing dividends.

And interestingly, NOT hiring, and NOT doing much investing of capital in operations or production. I thought fatter, bigger profits always meant more investment?!

18 Tenpoundbass   ignore (6)   2015 Oct 21, 4:15pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

...and that's not a Mony Python skitt?

19 gsr   ignore (0)   2015 Oct 21, 4:42pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Call it KKKrazy says

thunderlips11 says

Yep, Highest Profit-to-Revenue ratio in the History of the World.

US Multinationals are particularly drowning in money, doing nothing but buying back stock and increasing dividends.

And interestingly, NOT hiring, and NOT doing much investing of capital in operations or production. I thought fatter, bigger profits always meant more investment?!

Well, gsr.......care to disabuse us of the libtard lie that I and Lips and bob appear so determined to destroy America with? I mean, clearly we hate freedom, so it should be axiomatic what our error is.

Do your own research. Or, just follow Carl Icahn at this moment. He just founded a super-PAC on this with his own money.

20 gsr   ignore (0)   2015 Oct 21, 4:43pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

bob2356 says

The people who intend to break the law will break the law no matter what the taxes are. Simple as that. Do you ever go out in the real world?

Seriously?

21 gsr   ignore (0)   2015 Oct 21, 4:50pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

thunderlips11 says

bob2356 says

That makes zero sense.

Right, how did we get from the Finnish Police explaining to the Public that legally selling pizzas under 6 Euros is an impossibility, to the DEA in the USA throwing grenades in cribs?

This is what fanaticism looks like: Comparing routine tax collection and legal compliance with overzealous enforcement, that by the way is largely fueled by the Private Prison Industry.

If laws are created, they will be enforced. If you make laws on cigarette tax, you create tragic incidents like that of Eric Garner.

22 Booger   ignore (0)   2015 Oct 21, 5:00pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

thunderlips11 says

US Multinationals are particularly drowning in money, doing nothing but buying back stock and increasing dividends.

My dividend income is still below 2008 (ish) levels, despite owning more shares now.

23 bob2356   ignore (1)   2015 Oct 21, 5:28pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

gsr says

If laws are created, they will be enforced. If you make laws on cigarette tax, you create tragic incidents like that of Eric Garner.

So you are espousing no laws? That's a clever concept.

You are really going to plant your flag on Eric Garner? Really? The man with 30 arrests for things like assault, resisting arrest, and grand larceny. Yea let's get rid of those grand larceny laws, people will just get arrested when they steal shit. Can't have people arrested for assaulting other people can we? He was out on bail for illegally selling cigarettes, driving without a license, marijuana possession, and false impersonation when he died. Certainly an upstanding citizen. You do know he died of a heart attack on the way to the hospital, not being chocked at the scene don't you?

24 Dan8267   ignore (3)   2015 Oct 21, 9:50pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

It's all Hilary's fault! #pizzagenzi

If the topping doesn't fit, you must acquit.

25 bob2356   ignore (1)   2015 Oct 22, 3:56am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Call it KKKrazy says

Soooo, you think if it works, and the money is repatriated, then instantly the money will be invested in places where it wasn't earlier profitable?

Well the last time the profits held offshore were given a tax holiday so the profits could be responsibly reinvested in the future the companies and the american economy and american workers they brought the profits back and,and,and oh wait I forget they paid bonus and dividends with it.

Never mind.

26 gsr   ignore (0)   2015 Oct 22, 2:56pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Call it KKKrazy says

Soooo, you think if it works, and the money is repatriated, then instantly the money will be invested in places where it wasn't earlier profitable? That's your argument? Doubt it. It would just be pissed away in bonuses and salary increases to executive leeches, lobbyists, and lazy professional board directors. There's too much capacity already. You 'd have to stop believing supply-side axioms to grasp that, so there's little chance you will do so.

Then there's that Laffer curve thingy you've conveniently stopped talking about. All these libtard lies. It's just shameful.

A discussion with you quickly becomes too polarized. That's just sad.

27 gsr   ignore (0)   2015 Oct 22, 3:05pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

bob2356 says

So you are espousing no laws? That's a clever concept.

You are really going to plant your flag on Eric Garner? Really? The man with 30 arrests for things like assault, resisting arrest, and grand larceny. Yea let's get rid of those grand larceny laws, people will just get arrested when they steal shit. Can't have people arrested for assaulting other people can we? He was out on bail for illegally selling cigarettes, driving without a license, marijuana possession, and false impersonation when he died. Certainly an upstanding citizen. You do know he died of a heart attack on the way to the hospital, not being chocked at the scene don't you?

You know, you are just making the argument against legalizing marijuana. You are also parroting the first police report as the absolute truth. Perhaps you know better than the medical examiner and you should update the wikipedia with your evidence here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Eric_Garner

Perhaps in your opinion Libyan war was a grand success since it was done by the democrats?

28 bob2356   ignore (1)   2015 Oct 22, 3:57pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

gsr says

You know, you are just making the argument against legalizing marijuana. You are also parroting the first police report as the absolute truth. Perhaps you know better than the medical examiner and you should update the wikipedia with your evidence here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Eric_Garner

I don't need to update wiki, you need to read it. Coroners report: No damage to Garner's windpipe or neck bones was found. right there in the rather jumbled mess that passes for information in wiki. He wasn't choked to death, pulling him onto the ground set off asthma/heart attack. Which is legally homicide, the actions lead to his death.

You are making zero sense on most of what you are posting. WTF does the libyan war have do tax laws? Who said anything about pot? What does legalizing pot have to do with tax laws? I've been in favor of legalizing pot for 50 years. Slow down breath deep and focus a little.

What you said said was:
gsr says

If laws are created, they will be enforced.

A big duh moment. Of course they will. Curiosity overwhelms me how will the country work without tax laws? No roads, no police, no fire, no internet, no airports, no electricity, no nothing. That would be a lot of fun.

29 bob2356   ignore (1)   2015 Oct 22, 4:01pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Call it KKKrazy says

The tax holiday correlates with utopia. See? You and your ilk will never face fact. It's called tautology.

Are you sure it's not a priori? Libertarians just make up shit all the time then create new words for it, then it's like official and proven.

30 Tenpoundbass   ignore (6)   2015 Oct 22, 4:06pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Please tell the court what you witnessed...

Well I was walking down Barbary Street, when I saw a cop at Mimo's Pizza paying only a shilling for a slice of pizza I did.

And please point point at the at the bobby...

It was 'im 'IM I tell ya! He only paid 1 shilling for his slice of pizza he did.

and how did that make you feel?

Oh it was despicable, he should be forced to pay 7 quid for a slice of proper pizza like that alright!

Thank you, the crown rests!


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