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How many Americans may die because of ideological myths?


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2015 Nov 16, 6:00pm   4,131 views  16 comments

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Obama scolds those calling for 'religious test' of Syrian refugees

Political leaders in the United States must not turn away Syrian refugees as part of a religious test, an emphatic President Barack Obama declared Monday, entreating public officials "not to feed that dark impulse inside of us."

“And when I hear folks say that well maybe we should just admit the Christians but not the Muslims, when I hear political leaders suggesting that there would be a religious test for which person who’s fleeing from a war-torn country is admitted, when some of those folks themselves come from families who benefited from protection when they were fleeing political persecution, that’s shameful," Obama said during a news conference at the G-20 conference in Antalya, Turkey.
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"That’s not American. That’s not who we are. We don’t have a religious test for our compassion," he went on to say.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/obama-syria-refugees-215926

That is absolute bullshit, Mr. President. The USA has legislated anti-European immigration laws with an anti-Catholic and anti-Jewish motive when the stakes were much, much lower. The USA has also legislated racial tests for immigration as well. Quit believing your own bullshit, Mr. President.

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1   resistance   2015 Nov 16, 6:08pm  

Blurtman says

We don’t have a religious test for our compassion

we should definitely have a test of whether they are willing to live by the constitution though. in particular:

* democracy (man-made law being superior to "god's law" of sharia)
* freedom of speech (the right to draw a cartoon of mohammed)
* freedom of religion (the right to leave islam without being killed)

and perhaps a few other minor points like that...

2   Strategist   2015 Nov 16, 6:58pm  


Blurtman says

We don’t have a religious test for our compassion

we should definitely have a test of whether they are willing to live by the constitution though. in particular:

* democracy (man-made law being superior to "god's law" of sharia)

* freedom of speech (the right to draw a cartoon of mohammed)

* freedom of religion (the right to leave islam without being killed)

and perhaps a few other minor points like that...

These questions could easily violate the right to freedom of religion. They are using our beloved freedoms to get us. We are screwed.
We need a constitutional amendment that specifically declares Islam as a non religious cult.

3   MisdemeanorRebel   2015 Nov 16, 7:01pm  

Forget a test. Plenty of people game tests and tell pollsters/test admins what they want to hear.

I assure you that all but the most far gone schizo has enough mental presence to indicate "No" to the "Do you hear voices?" Question.

Have a team pick from Middle Eastern groups of who's eligible, and shucks if they only visit Alawite or Christian or Druze areas.

4   HydroCabron   2015 Nov 16, 7:18pm  

Find out if they're more terrified of rag heads killing innocent people than they are of the existential threat of global warming.

If they are, put them back on the boat to Dumbfuckistan.

5   Y   2015 Nov 16, 7:24pm  

Women and children only...the rest can stay and fight for their land ..

6   Strategist   2015 Nov 16, 8:22pm  

How come Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Lebanon, Jordan and Africa won't take the rest?

7   resistance   2015 Nov 16, 9:36pm  


Blurtman says

We don’t have a religious test for our compassion

we should definitely have a test of whether they are willing to live by the constitution though. in particular:

* democracy (man-made law being superior to "god's law" of sharia)

* freedom of speech (the right to draw a cartoon of mohammed)

* freedom of religion (the right to leave islam without being killed)

and perhaps a few other minor points like that...

if you agree, please forward these points to the white house, your governor, the press, etc etc etc.

8   Shaman   2015 Nov 23, 11:01am  

We could also rid the nation of the scourge of 1st and 2nd Ammendment hating libbies who are always trying to pass laws and make policies that violate the constitution. That would be a far greater service than trying to get rid of people with the crazy notion that America should live within its means.

9   MisdemeanorRebel   2015 Nov 23, 1:17pm  

Here's a better law:

"In order to qualify for Federal Funds, Student Loans, R&D Grants, Colleges and Universities must incorporate the 1st Amendment standards into their official policy."

That means if a school tries to expel a student for putting up "Drop off Freshmen Girls Here" signs on their privately rented balcony:

* All Federal Student Aid is frozen
* All Students on Federally Guaranteed Loans have the money frozen
* All R&D Grant money stops

* All "Title" Money is frozen.

Money is the only thing Non-Profit "For Profit" University Admins understand. Watch them became the Greatest Defenders of Liberty and lose the waffling arse-kissing of petty authoritarianism the moment money is tied to Free Speech.

10   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2015 Nov 23, 3:25pm  

Quigley says

We could also rid the nation of the scourge of 1st and 2nd Ammendment hating libbies

This is rich. Which party is pissing all over the 1st amendment freedom of religion at the moment?

11   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2015 Nov 23, 3:29pm  

thunderlips11 says

That means if a school tries to expel a student for putting up "Drop off Freshmen Girls Here" signs on their privately rented balcon

Right, but as soon as we see a female child swearing on youtube, let's get out our pitch forks and bitch about the feminazis. Freedom of speech for college boys, even if they have nothing to say, but a vulgar joke.

12   Shaman   2015 Nov 23, 5:20pm  

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

That's the language used. Now tell me how it applies to selection of refugees? How has Congress violated this law? Their bill just increases screening requirements, doesn't even mention a religion. But the President, were he not a Muslim himself, could certainly instruct his state department to select the most persecuted religious groups first for refugee status.

13   MisdemeanorRebel   2015 Nov 23, 7:03pm  

YesYNot says

Right, but as soon as we see a female child swearing on youtube, let's get out our pitch forks and bitch about the feminazis. Freedom of speech for college boys, even if they have nothing to say, but a vulgar joke.

Free Speech has nothing to do with not making an ass of yourself. Gary is a great example. Nobody on this board wants to make it illegal for Gary to rant about Sandy Hook People being Actors, as despicable as it is.

Nor is Free Speech about "Listen to What I say."
A) I don't have to and/or
B) I can say in return that your ideas are ridiculous.

My plan to defend the First Amendment protects even disturbed feminazis like this:
https://www.youtube.com/embed/zH_ZryBfCtU

That means that any private school that wants to take just one dime of federal money - say for a research project on Migration Patterns of Escaped Parakeets run by the Biology Department of Oral Roberts University - couldn't stop a student like "Big Red" from mouthing off on Campus.

14   MisdemeanorRebel   2015 Nov 23, 7:12pm  

Censorship is demanding the UN silence anybody who criticizes you. It's a tactic common to both Fundamentalist Religion AND Radical Feminism/Raep Culture and other shitty, stupid idea that can't survive outside of a safe space Echo Zone to demand Censorship and to be free from Criticism.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/prmprJyPyv0

15   mell   2015 Nov 23, 7:45pm  

YesYNot says

thunderlips11 says

That means if a school tries to expel a student for putting up "Drop off Freshmen Girls Here" signs on their privately rented balcon

Right, but as soon as we see a female child swearing on youtube, let's get out our pitch forks and bitch about the feminazis. Freedom of speech for college boys, even if they have nothing to say, but a vulgar joke.

You seem to have a problem differentiating between people voicing their opinions (aka bitching about feminazis or freedom of speech) and people demanding a change in the laws of society because other people are exercising their right to free speech (feminazis, BLM activists constantly trying to enact fascist and discriminatory changes in common and campus law).

16   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2015 Nov 24, 7:56am  

mell says

You seem to have a problem differentiating between people voicing their opinions (aka bitching about feminazis or freedom of speech) and people demanding a change in the laws of society because other people are exercising their right to free speech

You seem to have trouble staying on topic and making a clear point.

thunderlips11 says

Free Speech has nothing to do with not making an ass of yourself. Gary is a great example. Nobody on this board wants to make it illegal for Gary to rant about Sandy Hook People being Actors, as despicable as it is.

Agreed. Free speech also doesn't mean that you cannot have rules of decorum. People in public schools can't wear whatever distracting distasteful tee-shirt they want, and apparently, you can't dress your frat house in whatever distasteful tee-shirt you want on campus.

Gary is an ass with stupid ideas, but it is meaningful speech. He has ideas he is trying to spread, and he is doing it on a forum where people are free to ignore him. By allowing for free speech, we are trusting the marketplace of ideas to reject his wild notions. That doesn't mean that you can show up at your company holiday party dressed like a transvestite hooker and solicit sex with your boss's wife. You won't be arrested, because it is not illegal, but the institution that you are a part of (company/school) may disassociate itself with (fire/reprimand) you.

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