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President Obama STILL won't call it straight!

By CovfefeButDeadly following x   2015 Dec 4, 9:22am 17,489 views   60 comments   watch   nsfw   quote     share    


He's an asshole. A lying disingenuous one. When he said it could possibly be workplace violence, he was lying. He certainly was told about the explosives found in the house and about the terrorist/ISIS connection. Yet he still had to lay it on thick and maintain that ideological crap.

Fuck him. Lying sack of shit. And anyone who continues to support him. We are clearly not safe. Radical Islamic terrorists are here. They are at war with us. We must be at war with them. If I'm in that situation I'm not going out like a lamb to slaughter. I expect our president to be strong and take care of the governments number one function...the protection of its people and their property. President Obama has abdicated that responsibility in the name of an unamerican ideology. Least he could say is that we are at war with Muslim terrorists. But no, he's a liar.

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1   Rew   ignore (0)   2015 Dec 4, 11:18am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (4)   quote   flag        

He is saying those things because he knows he runs a country of scared children like you ready to vilify and backlash attack against other scared children.

He also said that because ... gasp ... we really didn't know the motivations at the time.

Now, go back to the kids table and play nice, or we will take away your toys.

("Your America" would already be killing Muslims in the street, for the simple reason that they are Muslim.)

2   turtledove   ignore (0)   2015 Dec 4, 12:30pm   ↑ like (10)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Rew says

He is saying those things because he knows he runs a country of scared children like you ready to vilify and backlash attack against other scared children.

So, we either agree with you or we are "scared children?" I have no doubt that the terrorists love people like you. I'm sure they appreciate the fact that you won't judge anyone until you've had a chance to get to know them and really understand what they are about. If only Mr. Farook could have sat with you at the park, maybe, and you all could have shared childhood stories and become BFFs. No doubt, if they could, every one of them would just talk it all out with you... and the whole scene would end with a big group hug.

3   anonymous   ignore (null)   2015 Dec 4, 12:42pm   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

turtledove says

So, we either agree with you or we are "scared children?" I have no doubt that the terrorists love people like you. I'm sure they appreciate the fact that you won't judge anyone until you've had a chance to get to know them and really understand what they are about. If only Mr. Farook could have sat with you at the park, maybe, and you all could have shared childhood stories and become BFFs. No doubt, if they could, every one of them would just talk it all out with you... and the whole scene would end with a big group hug.

yes - this is what every brain-dead liberal pothead thinks is a real solution to the world's problems.

4   blastfrompast   ignore (0)   2015 Dec 4, 12:46pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

Ironman says

.. he's more concerned about pissing off the Muslims (his own clan) versus pissing off Americans.

WAKE UP!!

there are 2 million American Muslims. when you say muslims versus americans, you show what an ignorant bigoted dumbass you are, but I guess anyone reading here already knew that.

5   mell   ignore (2)   2015 Dec 4, 12:54pm   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Rew says

backlash

Forget about your hyperbolic backlash fantasies of rabid Americans running wild and committing acts of violence against immigrants in the country for a minute. Just don't take in any more illegal immigrants / refugees and use a heavy pre-selection bias wrt legal immigration and visas by compatibility. No harm done. And if it doesn't work as expected they can still revert back to the current normal. That should be the choice and action of reason - no violence necessary.

6   Rew   ignore (0)   2015 Dec 4, 1:19pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

turtledove says

So, we either agree with you or we are "scared children?"

My accusation doesn't broadly apply to people who do not agree with me. My point is that dodgerfan is a great example of why world leaders are careful and measured with their words and don't readily jump to conclusions. The president desperately doesn't want it to be terrorism, not because he supports it or is "lying", but because we as a collective people are proving so piss-poor at reacting to it. It's a very human failing, and hard to deal with. It's not uniquely American. Europe is struggling with similar nationalistic, anti-Islamic, and anti-immegration issues.

And no, it isn't because "Obama failed to keep us safe" either, for his motivations of careful speech. The United States of America will always have some risk of terrorist threat, otherwise we wouldn't really be the US anymore. On the grand scheme that threat, it's so minor, and the majority of Islamic terrorism, sad to say, is perpetrated against other muslims, in mid-east countries.

turtledove says

I have no doubt that the terrorists love people like you.

They hate me. I'm not easily scared to action or judgement. I look for unity before division. I also think, while you have me in an introspective mood, I tend not to rigidly hold to dogmatic viewpoints which can then easily be used as a divisive wedge. More meaning my definition of self and the world is quite comfortable with things being very grey and blurry. I dislike absolutes.

Some of that is probably a bit of a personal myth though, as I'm sure many people think they are, "open minded".

turtledove says

I'm sure they appreciate the fact that you won't judge anyone until you've had a chance to get to know them and really understand what they are about. If only Mr. Farook could have sat with you at the park

Cute insinuations. :)

People too readily misinterpret a defense of Islam, and Muslim Americans, as an embracement of Islamic Terrorism. It seems you think I must be first to accuse, and speak broadly against the religion, or you are "pro terrorist"? That path can quickly lead to, "If you are pro-Islam, you are against the Constitution." Will be a sad day when that, or something close to it, is an actual election issue. That day could be just around the corner.

7   Rew   ignore (0)   2015 Dec 4, 1:32pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

mell says

Just don't take in any more illegal immigrants / refugees and use a heavy pre-selection bias wrt legal immigration and visas by compatibility. No harm done. And if it doesn't work as expected they can still revert back to the current normal. That should be the choice and action of reason - no violence necessary.

I like France's reaction way better. We just got attacked, well f you terrorists, we are going to take 30,000 instead of 24,000. Bring it.
Will be interesting to see if that can actually be done, and holds, but I'd love it if our balls were that big.

9/11 - American reaction - sacrifice major freedoms around search seizure, rights to privacy, and habius corpus trial
San Bernadino Attack - potential American reaction - we damage foundational mythos around being a nation of immigrants ... or worse ... do we begin to attack Islam itself?

It still absolutely floors me that we have built in no safeguards to self damage in the insane reactionary phase post a terror attack. At-least something safeguarding domestic law should be put in place. We don't have our heads clearly about us as a nation when we get bit by the terrorist flea. Being the big dog we are we chew big chunks out of our flesh to get the flea.

Only just now have we almost ratcheted down some post 9-11. That will all go out the window. Pendulum will swing way back the other direction.

My 4 year old is going to be living in a completely different country by the time he is 40. "Dad what was it like back when you could ..."

8   curious2   ignore (0)   2015 Dec 4, 1:50pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Rew says

Being the big dog we are we chew big chunks out of our flesh to get the flea.

Rew says

do we begin to attack Islam itself?

Your attempts to defend Islam might seem plausible if not for the fact that the Muslim world disagrees with you. Wherever that religion takes power, or has a majority even in an ostensibly secular state, the same pattern follows. You don't want to give up your ego extension, which makes you feel powerful and immortal, but ask yourself this question: why would an omnipotent deity need you to defend him? If Islam were actually true, then it would be self-evident, and you wouldn't need charlatans to present it, nor "defenders" to dissimulate it from its logical consequences. If Islam were actually true, then believers wouldn't need to kill people for leaving it or criticizing it, but they do that because they feel terrified of being exposed for having sacrificed so much for a lie. Instead, Jihjadis and useful idiots try to spread it, and defend it, as if an omnipotent deity somehow needed their help. That same vanity animates the terrorists and, to a lesser extent, their keyboard warriors.

9   Tenpoundbass   ignore (15)   2015 Dec 4, 2:22pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

It's not Terrorism it's Shake and bake and Obama helped.

10   turtledove   ignore (0)   2015 Dec 4, 2:53pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Rew says

That path can quickly lead to, "If you are pro-Islam, you are against the Constitution."

Seriously.... Are you familiar with Islam, at all?

You're probably right. Secretly, they are really into freedom of speech, religion... You know, general equality for all mankind.

11   Quigley   ignore (0)   2015 Dec 4, 3:34pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Rew says

My 4 year old is going to be living in a completely different country by the time he is 40.

If people like you run things we will still be asleep at the switch when the jihadis bring America to its knees. In that world, your 4 year old won't stand a great chance of making it to 40 unless he/she converts to Islam, and isn't asked to self-immolate for the cause.

You don't get it. It's the religion itself that is the problem. When Muslims take the time to really study their book of lies, they become radical. It's not a question of if, it's a matter of when.

I'm going to do whatever I can to ensure that MY kids grow up in an America that offers them the same freedoms and rights that it offered my generation. Inviting in a bunch of people who follow a barbaric, xenophobic, hate-filled, violent creed is the opposite of that.

12   Rew   ignore (0)   2015 Dec 4, 3:35pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

curious2 says

Your attempts to defend Islam might seem plausible if not for the fact that the Muslim world disagrees with you

Broad sweeping generalizations here, and with regards to Islam, do not a credible case make. To demonize 1.5 billion people, because 2 radicals recently shot up a social services building in southern California is pretty vile.

turtledove says

You're probably right. Secretly, they are really into freedom of speech, religion... You know, general equality for all mankind.

My Muslim friends are less proselytizing than most of my Christian friends. They also haven't tried to kill me for being a non-practicing Christian, or raped my wife for wearing a skirt ... yet. I'm holding my breath still. It's only been 15 years. So maybe someday I'll wake up to horror.

That's how it happens right? They just snap ... BOOOmm! They are all sleeper cells. ;)

13   curious2   ignore (0)   2015 Dec 4, 3:39pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Rew says

That's how it happens right?

According to the brother-in-law of the guy who shot his co-workers in San Bernardino, yes. People who knew the guy, even close family, said they had "no idea", except that he was "devout". The devout wife had also just cleared "national security and background checks". Once you concede the premise, the conclusions can follow at any time.

And, in answer to one of your other comments, yes I have seen countless videos of murderers shouting aloha snackbar while doing the deed. They brag about it and upload celebratory videos to show they're devout. Usually the perpetrators are cutting off the head of somebody who turned out to be the wrong flavor of snackbar. The perpetrators (all male) can get very excited, gather in close, trying to pile on and touch the victim, then when the head comes off they fire all their guns in the air in an orgiastic ejaculation of lead. Liveleaks stopped hosting the videos, so I can't link anymore.

14   Rew   ignore (0)   2015 Dec 4, 3:45pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

Quigley says

If people like you run things we will still be asleep at the switch when the jihadis bring America to its knees. In that world, your 4 year old won't stand a great chance of making it to 40 unless he/she converts to Islam, and isn't asked to self-immolate for the cause.

You don't get it. It's the religion itself that is the problem. When Muslims take the time to really study their book of lies, they become radical. It's not a question of if, it's a matter of when.

Oh I see. Yes, the idea is dangerous, we must kill kill kill IT! When the Muslims get to page 250 ... a switch goes off ... click ... and they start strapping bombs to themselves. You are so right. I see it clearly now. You should inform the FBI and CIA. They will need to start a Quran burning program immediately.

15   Rew   ignore (0)   2015 Dec 4, 3:56pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

curious2 says

According to the brother-in-law of the guy who shot his co-workers in San Bernardino, yes.

OH MY GOD! I better quickly go control the media consumption of my Muslim friends. We better implement some strict internet censorship as well. Quick! Quick!
Oh ... myyyy ... gahhhhhhhh! My dad owns a Quran!?!?!?! What does it mean? I'm so nervous.
OH my god! He went to high school in Saudi Arabia! He served in Vietnam and has guns! Quick! Put my whole family on the terror watch list. We are allllll infected!!!!!
(for the record, white and WASPy here, lest someone can't quite read my sarcasm correctly ... sad I even feel compelled to say that. sigh.)

Your grasp of human psychology and motivations for violence I don't think are quite in line with what happened here. You don't suddenly wake up one day and kill a bunch of people, unless you are mentally ill. Pre-meditated terror acts like this take time, and have other non-religous components, which are easily as great an influence. (no, not laughable things like "he was lonely")

16   curious2   ignore (0)   2015 Dec 4, 3:58pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Rew says

To demonize 1.5 billion people, because 2 radicals recently shot up a social services building in southern California is pretty vile.

You are the vile one, dissimulating and mischaracterizing. You know perfectly well that the pattern of examples, including those I have linked to, spans the globe. Mobs of thousands commit lethal violence over a cartoon. Ask the Yazidis if it's only two radicals in SoCal. Ask the people who got stabbed by Uighurs in China, or the farmers and teachers who get murdered in Thailand. Only 1/3 of smokers die from smoking-related causes, but that isn't a reason to encourage smoking, nor to defend smoking. You're so unwilling to admit that you're wrong that you get to the amorality of YesYNot, who said the Paris massacre and even hundreds killed are "nothing." That is vile trolling, and it's time to stop feeding you.

17   Rew   ignore (0)   2015 Dec 4, 4:10pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Oh man. I just realized. "The ones" tolerating our Christmas decorations in the office, they even know Christmas carols, it's an act just to get close to me isn't it ... isn't it!
Oh those f*kers! some of them are excited for the new Star Wars to release too ... that's, that's ... the biggest betrayal of all!

NOOOOooooooo! They are just like meeeeeeeeee ... just like meeeeeeeeeeee ........ :-O

(Turtledove was righttttttt! I'm probably already eating picnic sandwiches in the park with terrorists. (whimper))

18   Rew   ignore (0)   2015 Dec 4, 4:18pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

curious2 says

You are the vile one, dissumulating and mischaracterizing.

Oh no. I am not denying Islam has a radicalization problem outright. I'm not denying the existence of these attacks. Much like the gun regulation debate, I'm willing to accept risk and loss of life. The loss of life to western nations, and the slight increased risk we take, for accepting refugees, and ensuring Muslims in the USofA are afforded the same rights as non-muslims IS worth it. That ensures we remain a free nation and upholds the core principals of America. But you can only do it ... if you aren't afraid.

That's the difference between you and I. Muslims are part of my America, when you seem to seek to deny it to them.

Sadly, I'm sure I'm in the minority here. So we will compromise and trade our values away for a minute fraction and impression of more security, guarding against something which is less common than shark attacks or our own general gun and domestic violence issues.

19   Quigley   ignore (0)   2015 Dec 4, 4:34pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Muslims are mostly dangerous in concentrated masses, much like Uranium or plutonium, the more concentrated the sample the more likely it is to cause a chain reaction explosion when someone "insults Islam" or burns a Koran.
The first step is to STOP importing members of this vile religion. Hopefully in time the ones we have will assimilate and become safe, perhaps even abandoning their toxic faith for more mild beliefs.

20   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2015 Dec 4, 4:35pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Rew says

It's not uniquely American. Europe is struggling with similar nationalistic, anti-Islamic, and anti-immegration issues.

Europe is allowing what may amount to be millions of immigrants. Being against that is good. Let me ask you-I am assuming you have a nice house- if 10 people from the ghetto come rushing in and you refuse to let them in-are you anti blah, blah, blah?

Same thing if you have a concept of a country-then you decide who gets in or not-simple. Kumbayah globalism is what allowed the jihadis free movement across the globe.

Sometimes when people get too comfortable and too intellectual-they forget common sense.

21   Rew   ignore (0)   2015 Dec 4, 4:54pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

@Quigley, you can neutralize the potency by steeping the muslims in Pepsi products. Totally works!

lostand confused says

Europe is allowing what may amount to be millions of immigrants. Being against that is good. Let me ask you-I am assuming you have a nice house- if 10 people from the ghetto come rushing in and you refuse to let them in-are you anti blah, blah, blah?

Same thing if you have a concept of a country-then you decide who gets in or not-simple. Kumbayah globalism is what allowed the jihadis free movement across the globe.

Sometimes when people get too comfortable and too intellectual-they forget common sense.

Islamic terrorists found all sorts of ways to travel to other countries and perpetrate attacks, prior to having a large Syrian refugee issue. They will get to where they want to be one way or the other (and IS has means to do things without risky travel with refugees). I'm happy to have a screening process for Syrian refugees, and I'm sure the FBI and DHS can figure out the right thing to do there ... and will.

I could handle 1 or 2 mouths to feed at my door, and would accept them, given the right circumstances. I've got a spare room right now and can do it. Yep (sorry jsut actually mentally figuring out how I would do that ...)

10 is a bit much. Each country will be able to position itself best to accept whatever it can. Typically, immigrants commit lower amounts of crime and are typically more productive, once integrated, than other members of society. America is a powerhouse because of it. We rely directly on immigration to grow.

This is pretty heart warming ... oh man ... my faith in America slightly restored:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/latest-texas-pulls-back-effort-block-syrian-refugees-35583955

"5:10 p.m.

Amid a legal battle that has delayed the arrival of Syrian refugees in Texas, a suburban Houston church held a rally in support of its neighbor — a mosque — as well as local Muslims.

More than 50 members from the Bay Area Unitarian Universalist Church and others lined the road leading up to the Clear Lake Islamic Center as people went to Friday prayers.

The church and mosque are neighbors.

Church members held up signs that read "Love Thy Neighbor No Exceptions" and "We Support Our Muslim Neighbors."

Ibrahim Ezghair, associate imam at the Islamic center, called the rally a "really nice gesture."

The Rev. Peter Morales, president of the Unitarian Universalist Association, said "it's important to stand on the side of respect and love and tolerance.""

Ohhh, Unitarians ... yeah. I love them. :)

22   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (5)   2015 Dec 4, 5:01pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Unitarians are a bunch of SJWs. I'm surprised Men still attend.

23   BlueSardine   ignore (2)   2015 Dec 4, 5:29pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The very first step is to hire skywriters to draw Mohammed over the skies of mecca and medina...
Quigley says

The first step is to STOP importing members of this vile religion.

24   indigenous   ignore (0)   2015 Dec 4, 5:54pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Regardless if you agree or not, this is the chickens are coming home to roost.

25   curious2   ignore (0)   2015 Dec 4, 6:02pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Rew says

I'm willing to accept risk and loss of life. The loss of life to western nations, and the slight increased risk we take, for accepting refugees, and ensuring Muslims in the USofA are afforded the same rights as non-muslims IS worth it. That ensures we remain a free nation and upholds the core principals of America.

There is no point arguing with a troll, but I did want to preserve that comment. I hope we never get another 9/11, and the ensuing "Patriot Act" stuff, but if we do, I don't want Rew to go back and delete this comment. It deserves a place alongside YesYNot calling hundreds killed "nothing". Also, I note the Freudian slip, principals vs principles, as in my opinion the real beneficiaries of this policy combination (driving Syrian Muslims out of Syria and into Europe and America) are the politicians and their princpal financiers, at the expense of American principles.

26   turtledove   ignore (0)   2015 Dec 4, 6:14pm   ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Rew says

"Dad what was it like back when you could ..."

36 years from now using your plan... Allow me to finish your sentence for you... What was it like back when you could go outside without worrying that someone might kidnap you and cut your head off? Or, what was it like when you could go to popular public places without being shot at? Daddy, tell me about movie theaters.... Daddy, what's a "school?" Or, what was it like when you could use public transportation without risking your life? Or... Why isn't mommy allowed to drive? You two can have long discussions about when freedom of thought actually existed.

(Two thumbs up and a cheezy Joe Isuzu face)

27   zzyzzx   ignore (1)   2015 Dec 4, 6:20pm   ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Obligatory:

28   Strategist   ignore (2)   2015 Dec 4, 6:57pm   ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Rew says

Oh no. I am not denying Islam has a radicalization problem outright. I'm not denying the existence of these attacks. Much like the gun regulation debate, I'm willing to accept risk and loss of life. The loss of life to western nations, and the slight increased risk we take, for accepting refugees, and ensuring Muslims in the USofA are afforded the same rights as non-muslims IS worth it. That ensures we remain a free nation and upholds the core principals of America.

So let me understand what you are saying....... It's worth the loss of life to Western Nations, in order to uphold our freedoms and core principals, which is to give equal rights to people who want to destroy our freedoms and core principals.
Do you want to rethink what you just said?

29   indigenous   ignore (0)   2015 Dec 4, 7:03pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Strategist says

core principals

Like who the Bushes or the Clintons or their bosses the NWO?

30   mell   ignore (2)   2015 Dec 4, 7:06pm   ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Rew says

Islamic terrorists found all sorts of ways to travel to other countries and perpetrate attacks, prior to having a large Syrian refugee issue.

There are practically no attacks in countries that severely curbed immigration/visas and locked their borders such as Poland, Hungary etc.

Rew says

I could handle 1 or 2 mouths to feed at my door, and would accept them, given the right circumstances. I've got a spare room right now and can do it.

That's nice if you are serious, but you should think about your family if you have any and not put them in harms way. They should be first priority. But then again, why not house and feed one or two of your fellow American countrymen who have been homeless instead? There is enough poverty here and you need to have a working society with little poverty among its citizens first before you can even think about taking care of other nations.

31   turtledove   ignore (0)   2015 Dec 4, 7:09pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

mell says

There are practically no attacks in countries that severely curbed immigration/visas and locked their borders such as Poland, Hungary etc.

It couldn't possibly be that simple. Oh wait! It is!

32   indigenous   ignore (0)   2015 Dec 4, 7:13pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Also countries that do not enable. Where as France and Spain and the US, not so much.

33   Strategist   ignore (2)   2015 Dec 4, 7:14pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

mell says

Rew says

I could handle 1 or 2 mouths to feed at my door, and would accept them, given the right circumstances. I've got a spare room right now and can do it.

That's nice if you are serious, but you should think about your family if you have any and not put them in harms way. They should be first priority. But then again, why not house and feed one or two of your fellow American countrymen who have been homeless instead? There is enough poverty here and you need to have a working society with little poverty among its citizens first before you can even think about taking care of other nations.

I would not mind housing little orphan children, and the old from the refugees. All others including women, can forget it.

34   Strategist   ignore (2)   2015 Dec 4, 7:19pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

curious2 says

Rew says

I'm willing to accept risk and loss of life. The loss of life to western nations, and the slight increased risk we take, for accepting refugees, and ensuring Muslims in the USofA are afforded the same rights as non-muslims IS worth it. That ensures we remain a free nation and upholds the core principals of America.

There is no point arguing with a troll, but I did want to preserve that comment.

I don't think Rew is being a troll. He is presenting an argument he really believes, which is..........our constitution and our freedoms can overcome all adversaries. I think it's silly, because we have already lost our freedom to publicly criticize Islam.

35   turtledove   ignore (0)   2015 Dec 4, 7:30pm   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I agree. Rew isn't a troll. He/she seems like a very nice person, actually. Too nice. Too ready to give the benefit of the doubt to a bunch of people who dedicate themselves to a religion that actively preaches killing infidels.

Seriously, Rew... If they succeed... I am so DEAD. Your convictions could result in MY death. They aren't going to put up with me for one minute. I'm everything they hate. Female, educated, outspoken, attractive, in good shape, and too vain to wear a burka!

Though shalt not put me in a fuXXing burka! (the lesser known eleventh commandment)

36   curious2   ignore (0)   2015 Dec 4, 7:35pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

This quote is what persuaded me it was trolling.

37   Strategist   ignore (2)   2015 Dec 4, 7:38pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

turtledove says

I agree. Rew isn't a troll. He/she seems like a very nice person, actually. Too nice. Too ready to give the benefit of the doubt to a bunch of people who dedicate themselves to a religion that actively preaches killing infidels.

And Rew, you should realize we are the ones who respect your opinions. Those extremists would cut your throat in a second for expressing the same opinions.

38   indigenous   ignore (0)   2015 Dec 4, 7:38pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

turtledove says

I am so DEAD. Your convictions could result in MY death.

They may just sell you as a sex slave.

With all that at stake perhaps it would make sense to look at how much the US warmongers? and what the affects of that would be?

This is a blind spot with most Americans and conservatives on Pat.net. I'm conservative just against the elephant in the room...

40   Quigley   ignore (0)   2015 Dec 4, 8:07pm   ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

When you invite a stranger into your home you run the risk that they will steal all your stuff and/or axe murder you in the night. If it is just you in your home, okay maybe you take that risk, because you're only risking your own life. But when you have a wife and kids, you're risking their lives too.
I felt sorry for the bum I talked to at the beach, and felt sorrier that he was planning to sleep in the beach restroom that night, but I didn't know the guy and I wasn't going to risk my family's safety to do him a solid. I gave him a ten-spot and wished him well. Then I took my wife and kids home.
That's what Obama and Rew don't get. They aren't risking themselves only by inviting America-hating Muslims into our homeland. They're risking our wives and our children as well. It's completely irresponsible, no matter how altruistic the motives, you have no right to put others at risk to accomplish your altruism.

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