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You can only grind down middle America before they get sick of it all. Middle America has gone "Metal" and become the "Lion".

www.youtube.com/embed/cfHAiIq-Yeo

So why is Mitt Romney jumping into the race and trying to bring down trump. is he jealous that Trump may win and he will end up looking even dumber? Both on taxes just before the debate and now demanding NYT over some strange story about off the record. he seems to be going full on anti Trump-I wonder what is his angle??

Romney was the oligarch candidate picked to run against Obama just in case the public was annoyed enough at Barack to elect someone else. But they didn't pick a guy who the people actually wanted because Obama was a good White House-negro and they wanted him to stick around.

Romney is still in that camp. He just got the nudge to go take a swipe at the GOP's most feared and hated candidate since Teddy Roosevelt.
That's all it was. Nothing to see there.

lostand confused says

So why is Mitt Romney jumping into the race and trying to bring down trump. is he jealous that Trump may win and he will end up looking even dumber? Both on taxes just before the debate and now demanding NYT over some strange story about off the record. he seems to be going full on anti Trump-I wonder what is his angle??

Trump should say "I'll release my taxes on September 21st, the anniversary of Romney releasing his, in honor of his great campaign in 2012".

Zinger that pisses off GOPe, reminds people how slimy Establishment is and that it is "Do as I say, not as I did" Hypocrisy.

Quigley says

"The single most important thing for the Republican Party is to nominate the person who gives us the best chance to beat Hillary Clinton," Christie said, appearing with Trump at a press conference before a rally in Texas.

Nonsense. Trump is the ONLY Republican that will lose to Hillary.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

For years the Clintons, the Bushes, the Romneys, the Larry Summers, etc... they all do the same: sell America to corporations, to the rich, to the connected. They distract you with gay marriages, religion, racism, a black president, etc... but in the end it's all the same policies: free trade screwing American workers, immigrations screwing American peoples (and if you don't like it you're a racist), free passes for Wall Street, large corporations in general, ever more expensive housing, ever more expensive healthcare, large expenditure on military programs the only goal of which is to spend money, etc, etc...

Now of course any other choice is a "danger to democracy", a "racist", he's lunatic, liar (as if any of them told the truth), totally unreasonable, etc, etc...

Americans are forced into compliance by shame (racist!), by fear uncertainty and doubt (we don't know what this guy would do), and by the ever springing hope that their idiotic prescriptions could somehow one day turn out to be good for the average joe. They won't.

It's time to send a clear message that this crap has to stop.

Heraclitusstudent says

It's time to send a clear message that this crap has to stop

Exactly, and to respond to socal2 point, voters who are voting against the Establishment they HATE won't be swayed by scandal from their candidate. Trump is the only option that would truly blow up the boxes and the barriers to democracy, and make the government work for the people again.
I mean really, you're going to call Trump a big meanie and a racist and say to vote for Hillary who started two wars, voted for a third, wants a hostile relationship with Russia (with whom we should unite against the many dangers in the world,) broke the law on many occasions, is being investigated by the FBI for TREASONOUS deeds and abuse of power, and is a horrible old harridan!
Really? You're offering Hillary as a "better" choice? Even her supporters can't be bothered to go vote for her in a primary season that's featuring the lowest turnout for Democrats in forever. Meanwhile the turnout for Republican voters who want to vote Trump is smashing records.
If you're making comparisons and you're using Hillary as your golden girl, you lose. And that's before you even factor in the anti-establishment rage out there.

socal2 says

Just wait until Hillary, the Media and her surrogates finally unload on Trump if he wins the nomination. It will be Hillary in a landslide

it will be the other way around. Just wait till Trump unloads on Hillary. Trump will win.

Quigley says

Really? You're offering Hillary as a "better" choice?

I am not offering Hillary. I would prefer Cruz, Rubio or even Kasich.

I am just pointing out the obvious that Trump will lose in a landslide because there are simply not enough "angry" blue collar union slobs, disenfranchised democrats/republicans, nationalists and east coast liberals who will vote for Trump.

Trump and his cult can barely go a fucking day without bragging about his poll numbers. Yet they are absolutely mum when presented with months and months of consistent polling numbers showing Trump losing to Hillary.

You are going to piss away the Supreme Court for a generation in a quixotic quest to teach the establishment a lesson or something. The establishment will survive a Clinton or Trump. Not sure about the rest of us.

Rumor gaining stream: David Duke smear linked to Ted Cruz, aka Count Chocula. Alleges Cruz-linked Political Hack paid David Duke $80,000 for list of subscribers/supporters. Professional Bullshit Artist Duke laughs all the way to the bank, 5 figures and free PR!

socal2 says

Trump and his cult can barely go a fucking day without bragging about his poll numbers. Yet they are absolutely mum when presented with months and months of consistent polling numbers showing Trump losing to Hillary.

Not very reliable this far ahead. In Summer 1992, Perot and Bush the Elder were in the 30s, and Clinton was well below both at 25%.

lostand confused says

it will be the other way around. Just wait till Trump unloads on Hillary. Trump will win.

Right - all Hillary has to say is:

"Gee - Donald, that is not what you were saying to me when you were donating hundreds of thousands of dollars to my foundation along with tens of thousands of donations to my Democrat friends like Harry Reid and Chuck Schumer. Were you lying then or are you lying now?"

Just wait until the Media starts reporting on Trump bragging in his books about being a serial and UNREPENTANT adulterer. Talk about "war on women". How is Trump going to be able to attack the Clinton sleaze with a history like that?

Anecdotal only, but my apolitical wife really dislikes the Clintons. But every time Trump's big orange face is on TV she turns it off and says she will vote for Hillary a thousand times before that vulgar New York Liberal.

Ironman says

Do you deny that it's only a +3 for Hillary in the nationwide average? Go to the link you actually posted:

No I don't deny it.

- Do you deny that Trump is the ONLY Republican that polls worse than Hillary?
- Do you deny that Trump has higher negatives than Hillary?
- Do you deny that Trump has gotten very little attack ads spent against him compared to the rest?

Trump is at his zenith right now. It can only go downhill as more dirt is exposed. Not to mention all the new gaffes he will make between now and November. His inexplicable flub on the KKK thing is just one example. It was the biggest softball question in history, and the dumb ass tripped all over his dick.

Seen on the NYT: "What Wouldn’t Jesus Do? For evangelical voters like me, backing Trump is a huge mistake."

Seriously? They are going to try and distract more people to vote for Rubio or Hillary because they are... "evangelicals"?

This is typically the kind of message that makes people mad and encourages them to vote for Trump - just to mess with the IDIOT who wrote this.

As far as Hillary vs Trump, I think all Trump has to do to win by a landslide is simply repeat in a loop:
"I know but look she is in favor of free-trade. I know but look she is in favor of immigration."

Ironman says

Of course he does, the Dems hate him and the GOPe hate him, what would you expect?

In other words, the majority of voters.

Ironman says

Only idiots like you hang on minor, bullshit sound bites, in hopes your beloved GOPe dickheads might win.

Not just the KKK flub.

Trump praising Totalitarian Chi-Coms killing Democracy advocates in Tienanmen Square. Trump critical of Gorbachev for reforming Totalitarian Russia. Trump aping ISIS propaganda that "Bush Lied" about WMDs. Trump aping birtherism......

And spare me the "GOPe" bullshit. When Trump gets done pandering to Republicans and Conservatives to sow up the nomination, he will revert back to his Progressive Liberal form so quick your head will spin. This is the most conservative you will ever see Trump. He will be cutting deals and expanding government so big you will be dreaming of the days of the GOPe.

socal2 says

Trump praising Totalitarian Chi-Coms killing Democracy advocates in Tienanmen Square. Trump critical of Gorbachev for reforming Totalitarian Russia. Trump aping ISIS propaganda that "Bush Lied" about WMDs. Trump aping birtherism......

www.youtube.com/embed/GvliUuXjbL4

And spare me the "GOPe" bullshit. When Trump gets done pandering to Republicans and Conservatives to sow up the nomination, he will revert back to his Progressive Liberal form so quick your head will spin. This is the most conservative you will ever see Trump. He will be cutting deals and expanding government so big you will be dreaming of the days of the GOPe.

And the GOPe bullshit of loving open borders while promising to close them will give them the beating they RICHLY deserve. Party Discipline.

Sorry, socal2, but your wife's questionable contribution aside, get ready for the Trumpocracy!
This train is being driven by people who think that the KKK is something from a bygone era, and any endorsement of their candidate by such a person will just make them dig their heels in all the harder. Why did Trump delay in negating the Duke support? Because it truly doesn't matter. Trump supporters won't care! They view all anti-Trump media as establishment propaganda and discredit it out of hand. It's only Jurassic wonks like you who still think that piddly stuff matters (omg he got called a racist!). The rest of us just want our country back from the nasty old families who hijacked her.

Queen Hitlery on Corporatist Throne
GOPe defending that old Crone
From Atlanta to Texas's new Wall
Trump Army the Strongest of All!

Shockingly, Rubio's best support is in the North Virginia Suburbs. Who woulda thunk it?

He's a businessman, he brings business expertise. What do Hillary and Bernie bring other than Benghazi cover up and some empty rhetoric? Trump all the way!

Quigley says

The rest of us just want our country back from the nasty old families who hijacked her.

Just amazes me how you think Trump is the vehicle for this mission. Trump's entire history and career is all about enabling and cozying up to the establishment and "old families" you think hijacked our country. Can you name one thing Trump has done in his entire life (other than run his mouth over the last few months) that has tried to forward let alone live up to the issues he claims are important now?

And what's up with the "nasty old families" rhetoric? How is this rhetoric different then the Occupy Wall Street morons that were banging pots and pans making a mess of several cities a few years ago? Or are you coming from the crackpot Infowars Right line of thinking?

Trump attracts quite an interesting group of angry people on both extreme sides of the spectrum.

Do you somehow consider those positive endorsements?

socal2 says

How is this rhetoric different then the Occupy Wall Street morons

They were morons but had the right idea. They should have joined forces with the tea party and would have arrived at a movement similar to Donald Trumps without the need for Trump's controversial persona. There's nothing moronic about opposing the criminal activities and bailouts of the FIRE sector.

mell says

There's nothing moronic about opposing the criminal activities and bailouts of the FIRE sector.

Roger that.

But Trump supported the Wall Street bailouts.
http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/sep/15/club-growth/did-donald-trump-support-wall-street-bailout-club-/

He supported the auto bailouts too.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2011/04/20/naturally_trump_supported_the_banking_and_auto_bailouts.html

Trump is a massive hypocrite on virtually all of the major issues that his supporters claim to hold dear. He hired illegals. He manufactures products overseas. He supported Iraq and Libya. He supported Hillary and on and on and on.....

He ain't going to reform shit. He won't even talk about entitlements. He will go along to get along in DC and will cut big classy deals with the Democrats and the Media growing our incompetent government bigger than ever.

Trump is the same unthinking protest vote we saw with Jesse Ventura and Arnold Schwarzenegger (celebrity, alpha male, "tough talk". outsiders). They were all massive disappointments and liberal as the day is long.

mell says

They were morons but had the right idea. They should have joined forces with the tea party and would have arrived at a movement similar to Donald Trumps without the need for Trump's controversial persona. There's nothing moronic about opposing the criminal activities and bailouts of the FIRE sector.

Yep.

Occupy was taken over by the Feminists and SJWs who made bank bailouts about their Vagina. (google "Mykeru" on this, he was at DC Occupy)
TeaParty was Astroturfed by Lobbyists.

socal2 says

He ain't going to reform shit. He won't even talk about entitlements. He will go along to get along in DC and will cut big classy deals with the Democrats and the Media growing our incompetent government bigger than ever.

Because it shrank so much under 14 of 18 years of GOPe House and Budget Control, several years of which with an "R" President, the rest with neoliberal Democrats like Clinton and Obama.

And none of it would have happened without Corporate Cuckservative GOPe votes.

thunderlips11 says

Because it shrank so much under 14 of 18 years of GOPe House and Budget Control, several years of which with an "R" President, the rest with neoliberal Democrats like Clinton and Obama.

And none of it would have happened without Corporate Cuckservative GOPe votes.

No one is disputing that. I am disputing that Trump is the candidate to reform it. He will fold like a cheap suit and cut deals to not buck anyone's interests. He has no core or grounding principles. Trump's totalitarian character flaws are bad enough, but Trump doesn't have a single action in his long history suggesting he is serious about any of these issues.

Trump's entire life is about enabling the establishment you profess to hate so much.

But I guess Trump's alpha male Jesse the Body Ventura persona papers over all this - right? How did that work out for Minnesota?

Ironman says

Funny, when actual details are posted, the one-line headline talking point doesn't quite match up....

Just like the alleged "Blockbuster: Trump lies on Amnesty" thing. When you look at the Byron York interview, it's clear that after the wall is built, the illegal problem settled, then the issue of what to do on our side of the border is up for some negotiation. That's very different than Cruz 500% more H1-Bs Amendments and Rubio's Gang of 8 "Amnesty First, then defund the Wall portion of the plan" idea.

Wow! Everybody! Rubio won Minnesota!

States NOT won by Rubio in Red. Gee, this map sure looks familiar:

Ted Cruz - shocking photos from 1980s discovered...

Quigley says

But here's why many Republican and Democratic observers say Trump can win: He has inspired a flood of enthusiasm that has led to record Republican turnout in each of the four states that have so far voted.

His success among the white right wing idiot republican base, doesn't tell us much of how he's going to do with the majority moderate middle of the electorate.

Sure there will be some support from democrats for Trump, but there will also be lot of relatively conservative people that will choose Clinton over Trump.

For many, the idea of bubba back in the whitehouse (as first gentleman) is just as entertaining a thought as gambling on Trump, and 100 times safer.

I've got two words for you:

Women and "minorities" (in quotes - because the numbers aren't small anymore)

He's as qualified to fuck it up as well as any past Democratic or Republican president.

Quigley says

The best argument for a President Trump

Anyone surprised that Trump doesn't have even 50% of the committed delegates as it stands now? There are obviously more winner take all states coming that could help--but he has to win them. The media always overstates the importance of the recent events and has a really hard time with the long view. If Trump wins Ohio and Florida, then it's over. If not-we'll see.

TX gave a big boost to Cruz. But lets wait for the totals. Rubio was the biggest loser. FL, I think Trump will carry with ease but OH might be a challenge.

Trump's Duke moment was damming for two reasons.
1. He hesitated to condemn the KKK. Enough said
2. He is showing again that he clearly not authentic. He says what he thinks will get him elected.

The fact that he gave a half-hearted rejection of the KKK on Friday, and blatantly lied to avert the question on Sunday proves point # 2. It doesn't prove that we should ignore #1. Trump is going to get clobbered over the next couple of weeks. It will be interesting to see how people react.

YesYNot says

Trump is going to get clobbered over the next couple of weeks. It will be interesting to see how people react.

His popularity is exactly because he is so politically incorrect. I suspect his support will grow more.

It's all a reaction to the tyranny of shaming techniques which have become a 3rd legal system in the US:

1. the actual legal system
2. HR departments and university political correctness enforcement offices
3. public shaming of non-PC attitudes

The first two have the power to cost you your job or education. people are truly sick of it, so they are going to latch on to anyone who defies the self-appointed PC lords. And that's the one thing that trump does spectacularly well.

Trump is doing the Lords work: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/02/opinion/beware-exploding-politics.html