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Never Trump just can't Quit


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2016 Mar 31, 11:31pm   3,290 views  11 comments

by MisdemeanorRebel   ➕follow (12)   💰tip   ignore  

#NeverTrump is a huge freakin' joke.

Today's article in the WSJ: "Is Wisconsin Trump's Waterloo".
http://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-wisconsin-waterloo-1459465004

No mention of delegate math, that the polls in WI are all over the map, etc.

Or, most crucially, that Ted Cruz needs to win 4/5th of all remaining delegates to get to the magic 1,237. With the South long gone, the West not very Cruz friendly, and April 19th-26th in the Northeast with NY, RI, PA, DE, MD, CT voting, he's got to make a further shot than Bernie.

Even if Donald dropped out Cruz wouldn't win because Kasich. And he's unelectable nationally. He lost most of the South to Trump!

The real purpose of Never Trump is simple: Keep the Don from amassing 1,237 by vote splitting. It's why Kasich can't drop out - 66 of his Ohio Delegates would go to the runner up, Donald J. Trump.

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1   anonymous   2016 Mar 31, 11:35pm  

It's why Kasich can't drop out - 66 of his Ohio Delegates would go to the runner up, Donald J. Trump

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Are you certain of this? I read the same and then i read that is false

2   curious2   2016 Apr 1, 12:19am  

errc says

It's why Kasich can't drop out - 66 of his Ohio Delegates would go to the runner up, Donald J. Trump

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Are you certain of this? I read the same and then i read that is false

I think it turns out to be an Internet myth that has been busted.

3   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Apr 1, 12:28am  

Interesting! But I don't see how the following quoted GOP official reaches his conclusion from his first sentence.

There is nothing in the rules about what happens when a candidate withdraws, or suspends their campaign in the presidential race. This means that the delegates remain bound for the first ballot.

I see that as a loophole that the GOPe can exploit ruthlessly. Many Republican bodies can change these rules at any time.

4   Y   2016 Apr 1, 5:53am  

Regardless of Kasich's delegate count, he won't quit and he will stay in for the long haul for this simple fact.
He beats everybody on both sides nationally except sanders, who he is about tied with.
And the odds of Sanders being the libby candidate are slim unless clinton gets indicted.
With an open convention looming, Kasich's appeal across demographics will carry the most weight as the specter of a libby supreme court overrides all other single issue concerns.

5   Y   2016 Apr 1, 5:55am  

Better get used to it!

www.youtube.com/embed/YSW0VnJ7juQ

6   Y   2016 Apr 1, 5:58am  

@Patrick
Any chance of supporting the youtube flag "loop=1"?
It makes the above video more effective! -)

7   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2016 Apr 1, 7:15am  

#NeverTrump is not an unfair conspiracy. It is a reaction to what the Donald is.

His unfavorable ratings are literally off the charts:
https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/01/trump-has-highest-unfavorability-ever-recorded
http://www.redstate.com/california_yankee/2016/01/30/trumps-unfavorable-rating-higher-dem-gop-nominee-ever/

The Democratic field is fairly weak, and we've just had an 8 year Democrat run. Trump is one of the few Republican candidates who could produce a Democratic landslide in November.

His one asset is that he is a wildcard, but IMO people are going to tire of the show. He simply can't keep up that level of attention mongering for 1.5 years.

8   anonymous   2016 Apr 1, 7:23am  

Why would you say that the Democratic field is weak?

Is it because you're averaging out Hillarys inelectability with Bernies strength as a very strong candidate?

9   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2016 Apr 1, 8:04am  

errc says

Is it because you're averaging out Hillarys inelectability with Bernies strength as a very strong candidate?

I think that Bernie's sincerity is off the charts in a good way, and given the state of affairs that is a welcome change. Many of his policies I happen to agree with. That he does better than Hillary in general election polls, may reflect how tired the US is of Clinton/Bush. It doesn't mean that he is a particularly strong candidate (I mean from an electability perspective).

Given what the Republican party believes and what the Republican half of the country believes, I think that the only way he makes progress is if he goes against Trump and somehow wins the House and Senate. In that case, he could be another FDR, and if that works in a globalized world, that is great. But he would also have to deal with a pissed off half of the population and convince them that change is good. Maybe he will bring back the fireside chat to rally support :).

FDR also increased the debt by a factor of 12 over 12 years. That was OK, because our debt at the time he started was not huge. It went from something like 40% to 120% of GDP from the low to high before and during WWII. Now, it is over 100%, so we don't have a lot of room to keep growing the debt. For that reason, I think that achieving what Bernie wants would be difficult even if the rest of the Gov went along politically. http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt-to-gdp

10   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Apr 1, 9:25am  

YesYNot says

His unfavorable ratings are literally off the charts:

The average of polls has Hillary's unfavorable rating at 54%, just a few points behind Trump.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/clinton_favorableunfavorable-1131.html

11   Shaman   2016 Apr 1, 10:08am  

This election has such a small probability of a good outcome. Best candidate: Bernie. Worst: Cruz. Slightly less bad: Hillary. Most arrogant and blustering and incomprehensible: Trump. Most arrogant without reason: Kasich.

Other possible presidents now include Paul Ryan, Mittens, and any other GOP big wig thanks to the abortion that is the nomination process.

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