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Global meltdown update

By iwog following x   2016 May 17, 8:12am 8,431 views   31 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


The end of life as we know it continues to unfold and as of yet is still being ignored by the media. Another week has gone by and the melting trend continues to diverge and accelerate away from all prior averages. The odds of the North Pole becoming ice free for the first time in human history is growing larger by the day.

The first graph is accurate as of yesterday. The second one is a simple projection assuming current trends hold.

#climate #politics

1   iwog   ignore (3)   2016 May 17, 8:21am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Two possible modifications to this dire prediction. The blue line is 2012 which displayed a radical accelerating in June and resulted in the highest melting ever recorded. The green line is last year, 2015 which did the opposite and moderated in June but still placed 3rd. Note that BOTH of these years still adhered to an accelerated rate of ice melting in late June.

2   iwog   ignore (3)   2016 May 17, 8:24am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Plot of all years showing just how different things are in 2016.

3   tatupu70   ignore (0)   2016 May 17, 8:45am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Hater says

OH NO!

Summer is here.

You realize summer came every other year in those charts as well, right?

4   iwog   ignore (3)   2016 May 17, 9:13am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Hater says

OH NO!

Summer is here.

Quick!!!! Search the internets!!! Search FOX!!!!! Try to find one of those 3% of dissenting scientists!!!!! OH NOES, no one is telling you what to think and this happening real time.

Uh......uh.......uh........okay how about this........."Summer is here."

5   errc   ignore (2)   2016 May 17, 9:16am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Summer doesnt begin for another month yet

6   iwog   ignore (3)   2016 May 17, 9:31am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Hater says

How many of those scientists think we can do anything about it? How many of them think CO2 is the cause?

1. Probably not many.
2. All of them.

7   iwog   ignore (3)   2016 May 17, 10:00am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Ironman says

God Damn Global Warming causing all that ice on the bottom of the globe to melt this year...

Piggy, global warming is causing the glaciers in the South Pole to move faster which results in larger amounts of ice being fed into the oceans surrounding the continent. This is a well known, well studied phenomenon. I've explained this to you before but you're kinda too stupid to understand it. All that additional ice is offsetting the higher sea temperatures and melting in the south.

Since the North Pole doesn't have glaciers feeding into it, the ice is the result of freezing and melting throughout the year. If the entire ice cap melts, the entire arctic ocean will be turned into a heat ABSORPTION machine instead of a heat REFLECTING machine and will greatly accelerate global warming.

http://www.ibtimes.com.au/global-warming-speeds-movement-antarctic-glaciers-alter-shape-earth-1471942
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/mar/26/collapse-antarcticas-glaciers-ice-melt-sooner-than-thought-scientists-warn

8   iwog   ignore (3)   2016 May 17, 10:23am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

- Your first study is only about greening of the earth caused by CO2.
- Your second study is a minority opinion and heavily disputed. The part about greening is irrelevant.
- Your third study doesn't show what it's claiming to show. It claims to show CO2 lagging temperature but that's not true and doesn't even appear that way on the graph. At best it shows simultaneous rising and falling of temperature and CO2. (remember these are ice core ESTIMATES with ages being determined by isotope dating which is inexact) At worst it directly contradicts the conclusion which I have highlighted in RED.

There's also the very likely possibility that plant life absorbs far more heat energy than sand and rock. This means CO2 may be indirectly responsible for global warming with plants being the mechanism.

9   iwog   ignore (3)   2016 May 17, 10:29am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Hater says

Isn't CO2 supposed to cause more deserts?

No. Global warming will expand some deserts and contract others.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-08/climate-change-could-bring-more-rain-to-deserts-study/7229236

This isn't a benefit. Water vapor is a huge greenhouse gas and one of those positive feedback loops that will make life nearly impossible in some areas of the world.

10   saroya   ignore (0)   2016 May 17, 10:42am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

tatupu70 says

You realize summer came every other year in those charts as well, right?

Why are all of the climate change deniers wasting their time trying to convince we ignorant rabble that human caused climate change is a hoax? They could be much more productive with their efforts and try to convince the Defense Department, the Pentagon, all of the international reinsurance companies, Toyota, the CEO of Exxon, the United Nations, the 97% of international climate scientist and their peer reviewed papers, that climate change is a hoax. I wonder if our grandchildren will be holding Nuremberg Trials for those who denied climate change when the bill comes due.

11   HydroCabron   ignore (1)   2016 May 17, 10:54am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

In light of the current bathroom legislation, I don't see how the issue of the future of life on Earth is important.

12   tatupu70   ignore (0)   2016 May 17, 10:58am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

HydroCabron says

In light of the current bathroom legislation, I don't see how the issue of the future of life on Earth is important.

I agree--if someone who was born a woman is allowed to pee in a stall in a men's bathroom, then this isn't a world worth saving anyway.

13   iwog   ignore (3)   2016 May 17, 6:15pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

April breaks global temperature record, marking seven months of new highs
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/may/16/april-third-month-in-row-to-break-global-temperature-records

The latest figures smashed the previous record for April by the largest margin ever recorded.

14   HEY YOU   ignore (7)   2016 May 17, 7:20pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Deniers & trolls are immune to all effects of AGW.

15   iwog   ignore (3)   2016 May 17, 7:52pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

HEY YOU says

Deniers & trolls are immune to all effects of AGW.

I blocked piggy again and now he's having his usual temper tantrum.

16   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   ignore (2)   2016 May 18, 6:27am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

He posts the same meaningless drivel over and over again and somehow misunderstands why no one wants to read the stupid crap.

17   Logan Mohtashami   ignore (0)   2016 May 18, 8:21am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Earth's warming just hit a terrible new threshold

18   turtledove   ignore (0)   2016 May 18, 9:29am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

iwog says

There's also the very likely possibility that plant life absorbs far more heat energy than sand and rock. This means CO2 may be indirectly responsible for global warming with plants being the mechanism.

Didn't Regan say that global warming is caused by trees?

19   iwog   ignore (3)   2016 May 18, 9:32am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

No, he said trees cause pollution because they can sometimes emit methane.

20   Quigley   ignore (0)   2016 May 18, 10:04am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Captain Cook would jump for joy.

Also fuck those polar bears. Assholes, all of them!

21   Strategist   ignore (1)   2016 May 18, 11:04am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

tatupu70 says

I agree--if someone who was born a woman is allowed to pee in a stall in a men's bathroom, then this isn't a world worth saving anyway.

I'd like to see how a woman pee standing. Just curious.

22   Rew   ignore (0)   2016 May 18, 11:05am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Strategist says

I'd like to see how a woman pee standing. Just curious.

It's a big internet out there. I'm sure you can find it.

23   marcus   ignore (0)   2016 May 18, 6:04pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

iwog says

Note that BOTH of these years still adhered to an accelerated rate of ice melting in late June.

Yes. I also note two inflection points on the way down for 2015, 3 actually - on a smoothed version of the curve . The point being that it turns concave up twice (unlike 2012). So it's easy to envision this year not being as low as 2012. One can hope.

Not that the long term problem isn't there. But that you are wrong that the ice caps are completely melting in the summer one of these next few years.

iwog says

24   iwog   ignore (3)   2016 May 18, 7:03pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

marcus says

Not that the long term problem isn't there. But that you are wrong that the ice caps are completely melting in the summer one of these next few years.

Within 5 years. This thread will be bumpable if I'm right or wrong.

The graph above does not measure ice thickness. Just the extent of coverage be it a foot thick or a dozen feet thick. I will show you why this year is different than other years.

Picture 1 is the ice thickness on May 16th, 2015
Picture 2 is the ice thickness on May 16th, 2012 (lowest summer on record)
Picture 3 is the ice thickness on May 16th, 2016 (two days ago)

Deep red is thick ice. Purple is less than 1 meter. Everything is different this year. The satellite first started sending data in 2012 so that's the first year I can post.



25   Dan8267   ignore (3)   2016 May 19, 12:17am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

iwog says

The end of life as we know it continues to unfold and as of yet is still being ignored by the media

...who are too busy reporting on transgender people using the bathroom.

Ever since news became a profit center, it's gone to shit.

26   BlueSardine   ignore (1)   2016 May 19, 6:14am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

I can see it now. Trillions are spent all because your monitor is out of calibration.
Sounds like another y2k hoax...

iwog says

Picture 1 is the ice thickness on May 16th, 2015

Picture 2 is the ice thickness on May 16th, 2012 (lowest summer on record)

Picture 3 is the ice thickness on May 16th, 2016 (two days ago)

27   NuttBoxer   ignore (2)   2016 May 23, 1:08pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Yet D.C. is having their coldest month since 1882. Maybe all the hot wind bags normally floating around there are on vacation?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2016/05/23/washington-d-c-s-worst-may-ever-explained/

28   Tenpoundbass   ignore (6)   2016 May 23, 1:14pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

OH you mean Right NOW! Right NOW!

What lie will you spin it into when it's cooler next year, or by the end of Winter your model doesn't prove accurate?

29   iwog   ignore (3)   2016 May 23, 4:03pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

Tenpoundbass says

What lie will you spin it into when it's cooler next year, or by the end of Winter your model doesn't prove accurate?

What model would that be?

30   Onvacation   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 24, 8:32am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

iwog says

marcus says


Not that the long term problem isn't there. But that you are wrong that the ice caps are completely melting in the summer one of these next few years.



Within 5 years. This thread will be bumpable if I'm right or wrong.


I said iwog predicted an ice free arctic summer in 2022. I admit I was wrong. He said 2021.
31   Onvacation   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 24, 8:33am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

iwog says

Tenpoundbass says


What lie will you spin it into when it's cooler next year, or by the end of Winter your model doesn't prove accurate?



What model would that be?


Yes. What lie will you spin?

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