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What is this? Someone wants to go after the cause and support of jihadist terrorism, not the effect? WTF? Oh wait, it's the Asia Times. For a minute I thought common sense had come to the MSM.

Ok, so it's back to funding and supporting our saudi "allies" that actually want to exterminate us and are doing everything they can to make that possible. At least the military industrial complex is doing very well with our polices.

If you consider the huffpo part of MSM, it's being reported. But I agree that it should be front and center.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-yousaf-butt-/saudi-wahhabism-islam-terrorism_b_6501916.html

I don't understand why the US gov is not doing more to promote alternative energy sources. The Dems should be for it, because of climate change and national security. The Pubs should be for it on the grounds of national security alone. We could stop buying from SA, but someone else will. What we need to do is continue to develop and export alternative sources of energy to permanently drive down the cost of oil globally. Furthermore, a tax on oil is an obvious simple market based solution to accomplish the goal. It's a no brainer, really.

bob2356 says

Oh wait, it's the Asia Times.

Bwhahahahaha

Exactly why Hillary is the wrong person to be POTUS now or ever. She helped the suadis create this problem, protected them, insisted they were are friends, and even now continues the rhetoric with an increasingly strident tone because people aren't buying it. Saudi Arabia is the source of toxic Islam, not just its birthplace. it the war Hawks want to invade somewhere, SA would be a fine next target. specifically targeting mosques and madrasahs would be the goal. Once those are gone, it will be harder to indoctrinate kids to become jihadis.

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

Indonesia. Natively and precolonialally, they're what, some kind of animist?

Animist, then Buddhist and Hindu. Protestant Christianity is the only religion gaining share in recent years, but the country is 90% Muslim now, and Christian former governor Ahok is in prison for blasphemy. Declared atheism is probably a crime in itself; saying 'god does not exist' is criminal blasphemy.

If America confronted Islam instead of claiming to "respect" it, then much of the Islamic conquest could likely be rolled back by encouraging people to return to the traditions of their ancestors who did better in the same places. For example, Afghans were better off Buddhist, and much of their current trouble results from Muslim Taliban imposing Islam, but America gave them an expressly Islamic Constitution and Afghan law makes apostasy and blasphemy capital crimes. Persians were better off Zoroastrian and their ancestors would be particularly insulted to see the sons and daughters of Persia bow down in submission to a dead Arab. American policy has made matters worse, especially since Nixon's deals empowering KSA at the expense of everyone else.

anonymous says

Groups like the Islamic Defenders Front (FPI)

Yet another radical organization run by a Sufi (almost the same as Whabbi) Sunni nutjob tied into the whole madras/radical mosque infrastructure. When are we going to nuke saudi arabia and get t his shit done with.

bob2356 says

anonymous says

Groups like the Islamic Defenders Front (FPI)

Yet another radical organization run by a Sufi (almost the same as Whabbi) Sunni nutjob tied into the whole madras/radical mosque infrastructure. When are we going to nuke saudi arabia and get t his shit done with.

Why not nuke the whole Middle East and be done with the shit once and for all?

Strategist says

Why not nuke the whole Middle East and be done with the shit once and for all?

What did the rest of the middle east do? Why don't we nuke the entire mid west to get rid of crime in detroit and chicago?

bob2356 says

Strategist says

Why not nuke the whole Middle East and be done with the shit once and for all?

What did the rest of the middle east do?

Islam is the problem. It may have spread from Saudi Arabia, but now the whole Mid East is contaminated with the disease. The Middle East is the center of hell on earth. Nothing good ever comes out of it.

bob2356 says

Why don't we nuke the entire mid west to get rid of crime in detroit and chicago?

Hmmmm. You got me thinking.

anonymous says

Maybe - just maybe if we hadn't gone screwing around over there and left the strong men in power - things might be just a teensy bit better - you think?

I doubt it. The Middle East was hell long before USA even came into existence. I only blame Islam. Where Islam goes, hell follows.

The Islamic Intolerance is about to lose it's funding. In Saudi Arabia, Wahabi exporters are getting arrested, from current and former Ministers and Billionaires.

The Radical Madrassahs are about to have their grants cut off.

Ever since the Saudi Royals gathered around the Orb of Confeve,

TwoScoopsMcGee says

The Islamic Intolerance is about to lose it's funding. In Saudi Arabia, Wahabi exporters are getting arrested, from current and former Ministers and Billionaires.

The Radical Madrassahs are about to have their grants cut off.

All thanks to Trump. Obama, the pussy cat President would only bow down to them.

TwoScoopsMcGee says

The Islamic Intolerance is about to lose it's funding. In Saudi Arabia, Wahabi exporters are getting arrested, from current and former Ministers and Billionaires.

The Radical Madrassahs are about to have their grants cut off.

Ever since the Saudi Royals gathered around the Orb of Confeve,

Now that is really funny. Two scoops made a joke.

Strategist says

I doubt it. The Middle East was hell long before USA even came into existence. I only blame Islam. Where Islam goes, hell follows.

How do you explain European history then?

anon_6a185 says

Strategist says

I doubt it. The Middle East was hell long before USA even came into existence. I only blame Islam. Where Islam goes, hell follows.

How do you explain European history then?

Simple. Kings and Queens, and the Church have no more power. They got replaced by democracy. Islam is still the all powerful in the Mid East, and hence the hell that exists there.

Strategist says

Simple. Kings and Queens, and the Church have no more power. They got replaced by democracy. Islam is still the all powerful in the Mid East, and hence the hell that exists there.

So 2 continent wide devastating wars in 20 years is a good time? You really want to try to sell that pig?

anon_e144f says

Strategist says

Simple. Kings and Queens, and the Church have no more power. They got replaced by democracy. Islam is still the all powerful in the Mid East, and hence the hell that exists there.

So 2 continent wide devastating wars in 20 years is a good time? You really want to try to sell that pig?

Oh stop it. We don't have dictators either. Stop defending Islam. If Islam did not exist, we would not have Islamic terrorism, and the Mid East would be peaceful.

Strategist says

Oh stop it. We don't have dictators either. Stop defending Islam. If Islam did not exist, we would not have Islamic terrorism, and the Mid East would be peaceful.

Which we doesn't have any dictators? Eastern europe, asia, central america, south america, africa?

No, if we didn't have wahabbi and sulfi sects of islam then the middle east would be no more a mess than anywhere else. These are the people we need to be fighting. Not having US presidents sucking face with. How do you propose to eliminate 20% of the worlds population to get rid of islam? Since we can't then we need to work with the 99% of muslims who are reasonable. Idiots spouting nonsense about Islam being evil isn't going to solve the problem.

Not that you would have any interest in actually knowing what you are talking about but there is a very good new book out called Anatomy of Terrorism by Ali Soufan. Gives an in depth look at the people involved in radical islamist terrorism. Goes along nicely with Black Flags and Black Banner which more look at the organizations. Soufan was the FBI's number 1 guy on terrorism for many years. He actually was the interviewer for a some of the bad guys he talks about. The down side is reading about how the bush administration total incompetence created isis is pretty horrifying. I had no idea how fucked up the conduct of the Iraq war was. Especially since al queda was almost totally destroyed by the afghan invasion. Bush managed to pull defeat from the jaws of victory.

anonymous says

A report on foreign funding for extremist branches of Islam in Great Britain. Saudi Arabia has been clearly named as one of the greatest supporters. In the past 50 years, Riyadh has invested at least 76 billion euros ($86 billion) in Wahhabi extremism, the ideological basis of extremist and jihadist movements throughout the world. Are you surprised about these findings?

http://www.dw.com/en/saudi-arabia-exports-extremism-to-many-countries-including-germany-study-says/a-39618920

Tell me again why we invaded Iraq ?

Remind me why Iran is the antichrist. Other than people still being butt hurt about them throwing out the rather nasty little dictator the US installed then saying tough deal with it. Iran locked all of al queda they caught in country after 9/11 for long terms. They've been fighting alongside the Iraq Militia against ISIS for years. I can't name one shia terrorist attack, but somehow Iran is labeled a terrorism sponser and saudi arabia is our BFF. Money talks.

anonymous says

Tell me again why we invaded Iraq ?

because they hate us for our FREEDOMS duh

"Trans Women Attending Birthday Party Stalked By Islamic Extremists, Detained By Police

The victims were jailed for 24 hours and chastised for their "bad morals."
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Aceh adopted sharia law in 2005, criminalizing same-sex relations with jail time and up to 100 lashes. Hundreds turned out earlier this year when two men were publicly caned after being caught in a compromising position.

Local officials have made matters worse by aggressively stoking homophobia... In February 2016, Illiza Saaduddin, mayor of Banda Aceh, the provincial capital, vowed to purge the region of LGBT people."

bob2356 says

Remind me why Iran is the antichrist. Other than people still being butt hurt about them throwing out the rather nasty little dictator the US installed then saying tough deal with it. Iran locked all of al queda they caught in country after 9/11 for long terms. They've been fighting alongside the Iraq Militia against ISIS for years. I can't name one shia terrorist attack, but somehow Iran is labeled a terrorism sponser and saudi arabia is our BFF. Money talks.

Hezbollah:

1983 First US Embassy Bombing
1983 Beirut Marine Barracks Bombing
1983 Second US Embassy Bombing
1992 Israeli Embassy attack (with proven ties to Iranian Intelligence direct participation, not just funding Hezbollah generally)
1994 AMA Bombing in Buenos Aries

And of course, too many border raids and shellings on Israel to count.