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Yup rapage for everyone, they spend more than that.
For some $3 grand is just for the Insurance. Their car payment is another $3K.
People are paying $9K a year to go to work not $3,000.

Don't even get me started on Rent, Food and Forced health Insurance that does dickall to pay padded bills, sent by the medical billing racket.

I don't know how to put this...

Obama has been TERRIBLE!!!

Tenpoundbass says

Rent, Food and Forced health Insurance that does dickall to pay padded bills, sent by the medical billing racket.

I don't know how to put this...

Obama has been TERRIBLE!!!

Well put.

Workers spend more than $3,000 annually just to go to work

CHICAGO, ILL.
June 16, 2016 5:43am

• It’s not just the cost of the commute
• “The cost of work is often what the rest of your budget is centered around”

Here’s something to mull as you’re stuck in traffic on I-5, or any of the interstates leading to the Bay Area or Southern California. What’s it costing you?
Just getting to work — waking up, getting dressed, jumping in the car, dropping the kids off at day care, grabbing coffee — takes a bite out of paychecks – a remarkably big bite, according to a new study by the online jobs site CareerBuilder.com.

How much? According to the new CareerBuilder survey, the average amount of money people spend to go to work each month is $276, or around $3,300 per year.
Similarly, when it comes to searching for a new job, beyond dedication and determination, for many finding a new position requires a financial investment. 1 in 5 workers (19 percent) said it cost them money just to find a job. Of these workers, (27 percent) said it cost them $200 or more.

“The cost of work is often what the rest of your budget is centered around,” says Rosemary Haefner, chief human resources officer at CareerBuilder. “Knowing how much it amounts to can help you trim costs and make different lifestyle choices if need be. You can vow to carry lunch to work every day, stop buying coffee out, look for cheaper business clothes. Managing those costs can help account for others, like commuting and childcare, which won’t subside.”
Breaking Down Every Day Expenses

• Driving

The majority of workers (84 percent) typically commute to work by driving. Thirty-seven percent of these employees spend $25 or more a week on gas, while the majority (63 percent) spend less than $25 on gas a week:
Less than $10: 17 percent
$10 to less than $25: 47 percent
$25 to less than $50: 30 percent
$50 or more: 7 percent

• Public Transportation

Of those that take public transportation (7 percent), nearly half (47 percent) spend $25 or more on fare per week:
Less than $10: 19 percent
$10 to less than $25: 34 percent
$25 to less than $50: 33 percent
$50 or more: 14 percent

• Lunch

While most workers (72 percent) say they bring their lunch to work, half of employees that buy their lunch (50 percent) spend $25 or more on it a week:
Less than $10: 19 percent
$10 to less than $25: 31 percent
$25 to less than $50: 37 percent
$50 or more 13 percent

• Daycare

Among working parents with children 18 years old and younger living at home with them, 29 percent say they spend money on daycare per month. Of these working parents who spend money on daycare, more than 1 in 3 (36 percent) spend $500 or more per month on daycare:
Less than $250: 31 percent
$250 to $499: 32 percent
$500 to less than $1,000: 26 percent
$1,000 or more: 10 percent

• Pet Care

Fifty-eight percent of workers say they have a pet. Of these, more than half spend less than $10 per week on pet care:
Less than $10: 52 percent
$10 to less than $25: 33 percent
$25 to less than $50: 12 percent
$50 or more: 3 percent

• Coffee

Half of workers (49 percent) buy coffee during a typical work week. Of these workers, the spend is:
Less than $10: 71 percent
$10 to less than $25: 25 percent
$25 or more: 3 percent

• Clothing, Shoes and Accessories

When asked how much they spend on clothing, shoes and accessories for work in a given year, nearly half (47 percent) spend $250 or more; nearly 1 in 4 (24 percent) spend $500 or more; and more than 1 in 10 employees (13 percent) spend $750 or more:
Less than $250: 53 percent
$250 to $499: 24 percent
$500 to $749: 11 percent
$750 to $999: 5 percent
$1,000 to $1,499: 4 percent
$1,500 to $1,999: 1 percent
$2,000 or more: 2 percent

• Paying to Get Paid

Slightly more than 8 in 10 workers (81 percent) say they did not incur any costs the last time they looked for a new job; but, of those who did incur costs, many (27 percent) have had to spend $200 or more to purchase items, including:
Clothing: 68 percent
Transportation: 49 percent
Printing (resumes, cover letters, etc.): 44 percent
Travel: 40 percent
Networking events: 7 percent
Computer hardware/software: 6 percent
Recruiters: 5 percent
When asked what they spent the most money on during their job search, most employees who incurred costs said clothes, followed by transportation and travel:
Clothing: 39 percent
Transportation: 22 percent
Travel: 21 percent
Printing (resumes, cover letters, etc.): 7 percent
Recruiters: 1 percent
Computer hardware/software: 1 percent
Networking events: Less than 1 percent
Survey Methodology

The survey was conducted online within the U.S. by Harris Poll on behalf of CareerBuilder among 3,031 workers ages 18 and over (employed full-time, not self-employed, non-government) between February 10 and March 17, 2016 (percentages for some questions are based on a subset, based on their responses to certain questions). With a pure probability sample of 3,031, one could say with a 95 percent probability that the overall results have a sampling error of +/- 1.78 percentage points. Sampling error for data from sub-samples is higher and varies.

I don't understand why they would incluce such things as lunch and clothing--you're going to eat and dress whether you're working or not.

Ouch

Driving to work - simply the cost of doing business - alternatives such as public transport or walking may be feasible - but can be time consuming so that savings vs gas/car maintenance are equivalent to making minimum wage in china.

Daycare - simply the cost of doing business, still cheaper to pay for it vs forfeiting pay and negatively impacting career potential/lifetime earnings.

Coffee - company provides Peets coffee on the house.

Lunch - bring it from home, then no extra cost vs eating it at home.

Petcare - let them outside during the day. If they come back, that means they are yours to begin with.

Clothing/shoes/accessories - would have everything that I currently have regardless of working or not.

Paying to get paid - not since the turn of the century.

dublin hillz says

Petcare - let them outside during the day. If they come back, that means they are yours to begin with.

And if they don't that means that coyote had a good lunch.

The are stubborn imbeciles in Los Angeles area that refuse to use the outstanding public transportation options available in some areas. The excuses are largely that they incorrectly belief the light rail and subways to be crime ridden. It's not true but the. I guess you can't expect suburbanites to rub elbows with the unwashed masses.

I wish la and OC would fully get on board with an extensive light rail system. Would make my life easier. Sitting in traffic sucks.

Could you imagine if everyone in the neighborhood was obligated to take public transportation.
You would have leave for work 3 hours early and a large portion of the commute would be walking to the collection points or terminals.
Or would you go stand out side your main community. What about people with health issues or are sick and need to go to the Doctor. Do you want them on the bus?
So here's this collection point outside your community and everyone is there. There young the sick the old, everyone going everywhere for many different reasons.

Everyone in your community that needs to be some where before 9:00 you got buses coming by but they get full so you have to wait for the next one.
Then imagine the parking lot for the park and ride for the county to country train services. You would need a parking lot at least as big as i95 is wide, and long from Miami to West Palm Beach.
That's a huge parking lot. Now think of the long ass caravan of buses that would be in service. You didn't get rid of carbon emissions. You just deferred them a bunch of little engines and put it all in a bunch of big buses spewing out diesel with bigger engines. But make no mistake it would take a gridlock worth of buses to carry the masses.

YOu pro Public transportation hawks really haven't thought your biggest fantasy through.

If it works for you, then just use it and enjoy it. Just doing half of what you think would be cool, would be pure hell on earth.
You would drive a Hummer 1 after one week of that.

In U.S, public transport works if you live and work in the city and sometimes if you live in suburbs and work in the city. Living and working in suburbs is likely to result in significant time loss by utilizing this form of transport.

maybe this is one of the reasons i have never worked. it doesn't pay enough and is over rated.

dublin hillz says

Lunch

dublin hillz says

Clothing/shoes/accessories

That's the point I made in comment 4, they shouldn't be included because you're going to eat and wear clothes whether you're working or not.

The cost for going to work is more like 30k per year, between vehicle expenses, food, clothing and various entertainment to keep your sanity.
The cost for not going to work is zero because government will pay you 30k per year in various benefits to stay at home and not look for work.

We need Corporate Tax rules for income taxes.

If a company can deduct most or all of the cost of corporate vehicles, why not people with their cars driving to work?

Also, like companies, individuals should only pay income taxes on disposable income after reasonable expenses for their "basic operations" like housing, clothing, food, etc.