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ARLP blows away earnings, makes iwog gloriously rich

By iwog following x   2016 Jul 26, 7:17am 41,657 views   434 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    



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395   anon_604a7   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 3, 6:05pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (4)     quote      

How is performing as well as no brainer tech stocks like Apple and Amazon for the last two years “one of the greatest recommendation”?

I expect a lot more from patnet. My Vegas RE investment returned over 60% last year thanks to a poster here. But I guess the bar has been lower.

What’s next? Investing in nasdaq index = genius idea?
396   anon_7c0c9   ignore (3)   2018 Jan 3, 8:29pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

anon_604a7 says
Many people didn’t buy at $10. They bought at $18-20 as they admitted in this thread while claiming “nothing wrong with 10% year.” My last response was for those.

If you bought at $10, even after dividends, you only do as good as Apple and Amazon in the same period, which is why it is still not a good pick. It’s not a bad one but not a good one either


Forgive me for saying this but what you wrote just screams shuckster.
397   just_passing_through   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 3, 8:40pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Discounting taxes an including the dividend I'm up $900 in two months! Woohoo! This goes toward the reef tank I'm setting up!
398   goat   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 3, 8:53pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

anon_7c0c9 says





shuckster.

Thank you for teaching me this word :)

I'm gonna fling it at a bunch of women tomorrow hehehe
399   BorderPatrol   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 3, 9:20pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

what you wrote screams LOSER as you probably bought at $20 and now trying to defend a bad investment.

anon_7c0c9 says
Forgive me for saying this but what you wrote just screams shuckster.
400   SubOink   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 4, 10:43am   ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

It's always easy to look back and claim how great you did. But unless you came out and predicted it, it's worth shit. It's like going to Vegas and winning for a weekend and then bragging how great you are at gambling and how you just knew its gonna be RED.

Iwog had the balls to come out with some predictions - NAC and ARLP both. NAC as a place to park your cash has been absolutely great because the alternative is savings account of 0.75% interest you pay taxes on top. NAC has held steady and been paying 5.8% tax free. Nothing wrong with that. ARLP - lets talk in 2 years. It's not over until its over. It should do great under trump.

Apple was a dog for 2 years. I started doing options on it early this year. Kept rolling over and over. Pretty sweet. Great run until I lost a FAT round in July when it had a moment of slump. So half the winnings were out the window again...wish I had just kept going till now. But hey, nobody knows the future.
401   anon_25c83   ignore (3)   2018 Jan 4, 11:50am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

When you have someone in this thread saying 100% appreciation plus dividends over a couple of years is

anon_604a7 says
still not a good pick


I think it's pretty clear that the lights are on but nobody is home. I guess I'm just a loser for pointing out how silly that comment was but that's kind of the tone of the times.
402   anon_7bd2b   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 4, 1:38pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Predicting a move only is not enough. For a trade, exiting is as important as entering it.

NAC was nothing special. Pretty obvious choice for anybody living in CA with a taxable account. Non-taxable yield over 6% (at the time), ~zero correlation with equities, everybody was bashing muni's.

FP
403   anon_604a7   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 4, 3:31pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

The reason for why it was not a good pick has been repeated many times. I would repeat it one more time but I don’t think you will get it.

anon_25c83 says
When you have someone in this thread saying 100% appreciation plus dividends over a couple of years is

anon_604a7 says
still not a good pick


I think it's pretty clear that the lights are on but nobody is home. I guess I'm just a loser for pointing out how silly that comment was but that's kind of the tone of the times.
404   anon_604a7   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 4, 3:32pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (4)     quote      

You are missing the point entirely. This is not a discussion about who did better.

The point is these two stocks can’t be good picks when they perform just as well as much much safer tech stocks that someone’s grandma would have picked like Apple and Amazon.

A lot of people made recommendations here I’m not sure what kind of balls you think iwog has. They just don’t make a big deal out of it like he did. I think you are mistaking ego for balls.

We can have another discussion two years from now about this but why not have one right now? It has already been two years. Maybe these two will do well during the next two years. Who knows.

But many don’t realize this: there is nothing special about these two stocks. Iwog recommended these at the big dip in early 2016. Most stocks you bought at that point would have done well. Now he does get credit for buying at the right time, but not for choosing these two (AND keeping them for TWO years).

SubOink says
It's always easy to look back and claim how great you did. But unless you came out and predicted it, it's worth shit. It's like going to Vegas and winning for a weekend and then bragging how great you are at gambling and how you just knew its gonna be RED.

Iwog had the balls to come out with some predictions - NAC and ARLP both. NAC as a place to park your cash has been absolutely great because the alternative is savings account of 0.75% interest you pay taxes on top. NAC has held steady and been paying 5.8% tax free. Nothing wrong with that. ARLP - lets talk in 2 years. It's not over until its over. It should do great under trump.

Apple was a dog for 2 years. I started doing options on it early this year. Kept rolling over and over. Pretty sweet. Great run until I lost a FAT round in July when it had a moment of slump. So half the winnings were out the window again...wish I had just kept going till now. But hey, nobody knows the future.
405   anon_604a7   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 4, 3:48pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

You are missing the point entirely. This is not a discussion about who did better.

The point is these two stocks can’t be good picks when they perform just as well as much much safer tech stocks that someone’s grandma would have picked like Apple and Amazon.

A lot of people made recommendations here I’m not sure what kind of balls you think iwog has. They just don’t make a big deal out of it like he did. I think you are mistaking ego for balls.

We can have another discussion two years from now about this but why not have one right now? It has already been two years. Maybe these two will do well during the next two years. Who knows.

But many don’t realize this: there is nothing special about these two stocks. Iwog recommended these at the big dip in early 2016. Most stocks you bought at that point would have done well. Now he does get credit for buying at the right time, but not for choosing these two (AND keeping them for TWO years).

SubOink says
It's always easy to look back and claim how great you did. But unless you came out and predicted it, it's worth shit. It's like going to Vegas and winning for a weekend and then bragging how great you are at gambling and how you just knew its gonna be RED.

Iwog had the balls to come out with some predictions - NAC and ARLP both. NAC as a place to park your cash has been absolutely great because the alternative is savings account of 0.75% interest you pay taxes on top. NAC has held steady and been paying 5.8% tax free. Nothing wrong with that. ARLP - lets talk in 2 years. It's not over until its over. It should do great under trump.

Apple was a dog for 2 years. I started doing options on it early this year. Kept rolling over and over. Pretty sweet. Great run until I lost a FAT round in July when it had a moment of slump. So half the winnings were out the window again...wish I had just kept going till now. But hey, nobody knows the future.
406   anon_25c83   ignore (3)   2018 Jan 4, 4:32pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Interesting how a successful prediction is being compared to hindsight here as if they are both exactly the same thing. Very interesting how the mind can trick people.
407   SubOink   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 4, 4:36pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

anon_604a7 says
But many don’t realize this: there is nothing special about these two stocks. Iwog recommended these at the big dip in early 2016. Most stocks you bought at that point would have done well.


Nobody says anything is special - in hindsight tech stocks were a great buy. But I didn't see anyone come out here in this forum in 2016 when apple was a dog saying - Apple is a buy, don't believe the noise and here is why I believe it is a buy ....

I don't think by sharing his thoughts and research he was making a big deal out of it. Any question I ever had was answered politely and backed up by data. I don't get the bad vibes about that at all.

But no wonder that he is no longer posting just like Logan. People that actually have interesting insights get booed out of this boys club. Without people like that there is little of interest in here...as I can find negativity and whining on Facebook all day.
408   just_passing_through   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 4, 6:21pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

SubOink says
get booed out of this boys club


Hey sub - just click the ignore button on all assnonymous posters who post like tards.

Initially I only used that for people who posted pictures of hairy naked dudes. Vomit from people too chicken to stick to an account is almost as bad.

[edit: I'm down to only $615 in a play account; oh noes!]
409   BorderPatrol   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 4, 7:27pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

i just wanted to tell people how investment should be evaluated but many think i'm dissing their investments.

so i will stop commenting.
410   BorderPatrol   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 4, 7:38pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

that was me. i don't log in while at work.

there's no need to be butthurt. your name callings only make you look more of a loser.

just_passing_through says
Hey sub - just click the ignore button on all assnonymous posters who post like tards.
411   just_passing_through   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 4, 10:09pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

BorderPatrol says
so i will stop commenting.


That would be great!
412   CurrentRuin   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 5, 7:27pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Is Iwog gone for good from this site?
413   mell   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 5, 7:54pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

CurrentRuin says
Is Iwog gone for good from this site?


No.

mell says
anon_7c0c9 says
but one of the greatest recommendations ever seen on patnet


lol duck detected


SubOink says
Nobody says anything is special - in hindsight tech stocks were a great buy. But I didn't see anyone come out here in this forum in 2016 when apple was a dog saying - Apple is a buy, don't believe the noise and here is why I believe it is a buy ....


True but AAPL is part of most funds and moves the index funds as well just by its size, so you don't have to be buying just AAPL to make better returns.

SubOink says
But no wonder that he is no longer posting just like Logan. People that actually have interesting insights get booed out of this boys club. Without people like that there is little of interest in here...as I can find negativity and whining on Facebook all day.


Most people have been pretty cheerful on here lately it seems.
414   SubOink   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 6, 12:12am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Sniper says
Are you sad the the iwog lemmings have no one to follow since he's gone?


No because thank god - YOU are here! A gift to the world! :)

mell says

True but AAPL is part of most funds and moves the index funds as well just by its size, so you don't have to be buying just AAPL to make better returns.


sure but that was just an example - who has actually made a public prediction and backed it up by data other then Iwog? Anyone can throw out some prediction and hope to be right. They do it on CNBC all day :)
415   errc   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 9, 10:32am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Nice run here of late.

Do you have any feel for what they do with the “dividend” moving forward?
416   theoakman   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 11, 5:18pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

lol, ARLP up 7% this week.
417   mell   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 11, 5:31pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

SubOink says
sure but that was just an example - who has actually made a public prediction and backed it up by data other then Iwog? Anyone can throw out some prediction and hope to be right. They do it on CNBC all day :)


I have done that a few times with much better returns than ARLP. ARLP and NAC weren't the greatest plays let's be honest, but ARLP wasn't a bad play either.
418   Satoshi_Nakamoto   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 11, 5:38pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

What's so great about this "ARLP" y'all are talking about again?

419   Sniper   ignore (10)   2018 Jan 11, 6:35pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Satoshi_Nakamoto says
What's so great about this "ARLP" y'all are talking about again?


Wondering the same thing?? Still below the 1 year high, while all the other major markets are up +20% the past year.

420   theoakman   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 11, 7:09pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Go back 2 years
ARLP +50%
Nasdaq +43%
DJIA +45%

nevermind that you would have also been earning 20% on the original investment at the time
421   Satoshi_Nakamoto   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 11, 7:46pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

theoakman says
Go back 2 years
ARLP +50%
Nasdaq +43%
DJIA +45%

nevermind that you would have also been earning 20% on the original investment at the time


You mean Jan 11, 2016?

My chart starts on the day this thread started.
422   anon_6f889   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 11, 7:48pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

theoakman says
Go back 2 years


theoakman says
nevermind


Exactly, nevermind because,

anon_604a7 says
Many people didn’t buy at $10. They bought at $18-20 as they admitted in this thread while claiming “nothing wrong with 10% year.”


So based on that, it has moved sideways while,

theoakman says
Nasdaq +43%
DJIA +45%


So, still think it was a good move for those people?
423   just_passing_through   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 11, 10:11pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

I'm up 7.7% in 2 months... [including divy]
424   theoakman   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 12, 4:54am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Satoshi_Nakamoto says
theoakman says
Go back 2 years
ARLP +50%
Nasdaq +43%
DJIA +45%

nevermind that you would have also been earning 20% on the original investment at the time


You mean Jan 11, 2016?

My chart starts on the day this thread started.


Good for your chart, but the original recommendation was made 2 years ago.
425   anon_de01e   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 12, 7:25am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

I guess when people lose money on the regular basis, a stock performing not much better than indexes can appear to be “greatest picks ever” LoL.
426   errc   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 12, 7:30am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

anon_de01e says
I guess when people lose money on the regular basis, a stock performing not much better than indexes can appear to be “greatest picks ever” LoL.


Which index is up 80% AND pays a DD dividend?
427   Satoshi_Nakamoto   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 12, 7:48am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

errc says

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What are you doing in the thread? Sure seems some people are members of the “oh muh gawd, please give me an opportunity to catch Iwog being wrong for ...


Sure seems some people didn't get a warning about posts using word "you".
428   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 12, 9:27am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Satoshi_Nakamoto says
Sure seems some people didn't get a warning about posts using word "you".


Yes, looks like the delete button is going to get used today again.
429   theoakman   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 12, 9:53am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Bottom line, this stock has has beaten the market over that period and increased dividends slightly. If people are badmouthing those types of returns, it's a sign that the stock market is in bubble territory.
430   anon_13ce6   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 12, 10:27am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Patrick says
Satoshi_Nakamoto says
Sure seems some people didn't get a warning about posts using word "you".


Yes, looks like the delete button is going to get used today again.


Maybe "TDS" should be a banned. Is it not a personal attack?
431   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 12, 10:28am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

anon_13ce6 says
Maybe "TDS" should be a banned. Is it not a personal attack?


Yes, it is personal to simply attack Trump for no particular reason, but he's not a user of the site as far as I know.

The goal is just to eliminate the flame wars.
432   anon_5e3e7   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 12, 12:21pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

That’s not what TDS means.

Patrick says
anon_13ce6 says
Maybe "TDS" should be a banned. Is it not a personal attack?


Yes, it is personal to simply attack Trump for no particular reason, but he's not a user of the site as far as I know.

The goal is just to eliminate the flame wars.
433   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 12, 12:21pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

anon_5e3e7 says
That’s not what TDS means.


Ah yes, if you mean one user saying another user has TDS, then that would indeed be a personal attack and banned.
434   goat   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 13, 6:04pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

theoakman says


Good for your chart, but the original recommendation was made 2 years ago.


Yup.

I remember this thread was because iwog had previously recommended it (to much patnet controversy due to it being "coal"). Shortly after he recommended it, and it having it's huge run up, he then - on the day of a good earnings report - bragged about it by throwing this thread into the face of his patnet opposition.

It's historically disingenuous to compare the size/interest of this thread to it's recent performance. Iwog recommended it when it was about $10 if I remember right, and after it rose to about $20, he warned others that it was a lot easier for him to recommend at $10 than it's current price.

He utterly nailed this one.

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