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ARLP blows away earnings, makes iwog gloriously rich

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354   BayArea   ignore (0)   2017 Dec 18, 3:21pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

I sold a couple weeks ago and went into crypto
355   anon_25c83   ignore (3)   2017 Dec 18, 8:30pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

BayArea says
I sold a couple weeks ago and went into crypto


Reading this makes me sad. I can't even summon the strength to ask you if you're serious or not because I already know you are.
356   Patrick   ignore (0)   2017 Dec 18, 8:55pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Patrick says
Dunno, just owned it for a year and a bit, got the dividends, and now the price is back where it was.

I think I got on the order of 15%. Maybe the S&P is up more than that...


Indeed it is:

357   BorderPatrol   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 19, 1:59am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

SELL SELL SELL as quick as you can. The sellling should have been done a year ago.

Sorry Patrick I think you incurred a big loss. Win or loss is all relative. If you entered a year ago then compared to no brainer giant tech stocks it is a loss as 10% anually is just the historical average.
358   SubOink   ignore (0)   2017 Dec 20, 8:19am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

@iwog - general thoughts?
359   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2017 Dec 20, 8:45am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

SubOink says
@iwog - general thoughts?

Unless he's lurking and posting anon, Iwog left the site. So not sure if you'll get a response or at least a direct response and know it was actually him. Just figured you might want to know as I recall you're an occasional poster and may have missed it. It would be cool though for the guys that did invest in this if he could give insight. I enjoyed these types of posts from him.
360   SubOink   ignore (0)   2017 Dec 20, 10:17am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

WookieMan says
Just figured you might want to know as I recall you're an occasional poster and may have missed it


I did miss that - what happened?
361   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2017 Dec 20, 10:52am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

SubOink says
I did miss that - what happened?


In an effort to clean up some of the trolling and personal attacks, Patrick implemented some moderators to help keep things on track. To make a long story short (there's more to it of course) Iwog was not pleased with the selection of one moderator in particular because he felt he was a troll and disingenuous. I'm not naming names cause there's no point in rehashing it in this thread. But if you've got some long read time, here's the thread where it went down:

https://patrick.net/post/1311717/2017-11-06-new-moderators-per-topic
I personally hope he'll come back, but it's already been a good month in a half. I'd venture to guess he's checked the site out as a lurker (not logged in) and maybe even posted anon, but I'm doubtful at this point. But who knows. The more people here with mostly intelligent thoughts the better in my opinion.
362   Patrick   ignore (0)   2017 Dec 20, 9:05pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (5)     quote      

I'm pretty sure Iwog is still around.
363   SubOink   ignore (0)   2017 Dec 21, 9:30pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

WookieMan says
But if you've got some long read time, here's the thread where it went down:

https://patrick.net/post/1311717/2017-11-06-new-moderators-per-topic


WOW! Lol!
364   errc   ignore (2)   2017 Dec 29, 9:21am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Tax loss selling day
365   errc   ignore (2)   2017 Dec 29, 9:25am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Patrick says
I'm pretty sure Iwog is still around.


He hasn’t posted in almost two months. His next to last post leaves a clue as to why he left this Republican Bath House forum:

The Republican congress voted to repeal Obamacare 60 times in the last 8 years. The Republican party WILL NEVER repeal NAFTA or any other globalist treaty ever. The Republican congress has always wanted to cut taxes to the bone. The Republican congress will NEVER allow Donald Trump to build a law nor will they ever allow Donald Trump to deport all the illegals.

Donald Trump is carrying water for the Republicans in congress. He's their gimp, their choad, their cuck. The Republicans in congress hold all the cards and they are setting all the policy. End.

Iwog was right again. Why does that make certain people so upset?
366   SubOink   ignore (0)   2017 Dec 29, 11:10am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

ARLP having a few good days here...
367   TwoScoopsPlissken   ignore (0)   2017 Dec 29, 1:50pm   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

errc says
He hasn’t posted in almost two months. His next to last post leaves a clue as to why he left this Republican Bath House forum:


What about this one:


http://patrick.net/post/1310038/2017-09-15-donald-trump-will-fail-to-deliver-on-all-of-his-key-campaign-promises-in-2017
- Corporate Tax, Done
- Personal Tax Reform, Done
- Obamacare reform or repeal - Done (Individual Mandate goes bye-bye)

3 out of 7 and it's just year 1 of a 4 year Presidency. DACA and Infrastructure up next. Next year is an election year, and very, very few Red State Republicans can afford to seem weak on immigration. And I guarantee you any defector will be named and shamed. There's a reason Ryan, Flake, etc. are all resigning.
368   anon_7c0c9   ignore (3)   2017 Dec 29, 2:46pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Correct me if I'm wrong here but isn't the only repeal of Obamacare so far just the ways it's paid for? Doesn't that leave almost the entire law intact except making it optional? That's not what repeal means.
369   FP   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 29, 2:53pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

TwoScoopsPlissken says
3 out of 7 and it's just year 1 of a 4 year Presidency.


The personal tax reform not quite what he was promising. The Obamacare, not quite the way he was promising to get rid of it, though it may be sufficient to condemn it to slow death.

The rest promises will remain unfulfilled.

It is one thing to have preferred Trump over Hillary (like I did), but to think that he would/is/will do a good job as a president... WOW
370   BayArea   ignore (0)   2017 Dec 29, 2:54pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

anon_25c83 says
BayArea says
I sold a couple weeks ago and went into crypto


Reading this makes me sad. I can't even summon the strength to ask you if you're serious or not because I already know you are.


What are you so sad about? I lost money over the past year on ARLP and up 50% on crypto in just a few weeks.

Only about 10% of my investment is in crypto, just didn’t want ARLP anymore. Over the past year a monkey shooting darts at a stock dartboard could have made money in the stock market (As long as the darts missed ARLP)

ARLP will probably bounce back eventually but I didn’t want to wait around anymore.
371   TwoScoopsPlissken   ignore (0)   2017 Dec 29, 3:27pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

FP says
The rest promises will remain unfulfilled.


With 3 years to go, an important caveat, and he's almost halfway there in the promises department.

Rating so far: A
372   CBOEtrader   ignore (1)   2017 Dec 29, 4:13pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

anon_7c0c9 says
Doesn't that leave almost the entire law intact except making it optional?


Making a law optional makes it an option, not a mandate.

It's also just step 1.

Hillary may still be indicted. The DOJ is looking at uranium 1 again, and the email scandal is the gift that keeps on giving (in the news again just today!!)
373   Patrick   ignore (0)   2017 Dec 29, 4:28pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote      

anon_7c0c9 says
Correct me if I'm wrong here but isn't the only repeal of Obamacare so far just the ways it's paid for? Doesn't that leave almost the entire law intact except making it optional? That's not what repeal means.


The evil heart of Obamacare is the mandatory payment of unlimited premiums to private companies.

If you're going to tax me, then tax me. Don't give private companies the power to demand by law that I pay whatever they say. That is the very essence of corruption on a colossal scale: abusing our legal system to force the masses to send their life savings to corporations which bribed our representatives.

Once the mandate is gone, the way will be cleared for something much better, maybe just letting people buy in to Medicare at any age.
374   anon_bab3f   ignore (0)   2017 Dec 31, 10:30am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Patrick,

No one disagrees that there are problems with obamacare. But what is absurd is to think republicans want to improve the system and not give more handouts to corporations. Both parties have problems with lobbyists. The republicans are exponentially worse.
375   anon_25c83   ignore (3)   2017 Dec 31, 11:16am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Patrick says
Don't give private companies the power to demand by law that I pay whatever they say.


You mean how the national highway system was built? Nasa? Practically every defense contractor?
376   SubOink   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 1, 5:17pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Sniper says
Meanwhile, had everyone just put their money into a index fund, instead of listening to Iwog, this would have happened to their investment:


your chart shows 24 going to 19.70 but you fail to disclose that iwog mentioned ARLP at $10/11 wish...

just saying' - lets keep it straight
377   just_passing_through   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 1, 6:47pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

I'm still happy with my ARLP investment and will continue to be so as long as the stock prices is relatively stable. I just like the dividend which seems pretty springy when the price drops. It's only 1.6% of my net worth.

Meanwhile, I picked up another rental house (still in contract actually) while I was visiting family in Texas over the holidays... Brand new for 225/70K down.

Actually, someone lived in it for 3 months before his wife died and he went into assisted living. He's got a trust fund and is not poor, just wanted it gone. Two other identical new houses in this subdivision are selling for 266.

It'll probably cash flow 500/month after paying the mortgage.
378   errc   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 2, 5:45am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

It’s odd how some certain posters are so concerned about the successful investments of others

It’s fairly obvious that CiC bought ARLP at its peak, and then sold after it dropped before ever collecting any distribution. Sad!
379   anon_7b43f   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 2, 11:10am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Sniper says
SubOink says
Sniper says
Meanwhile, had everyone just put their money into a index fund, instead of listening to Iwog, this would have happened to their investment:


your chart shows 24 going to 19.70 but you fail to disclose that iwog mentioned ARLP at $10/11 wish...

just saying' - lets keep it straight


Your point is??

Iwog made this thread a year and a half ago when it was floating around at $18. You were even considering buying more at $18. in August

SubOink says

not sure what you mean - I log into my etrade account and can buy at 18.00 at this very second...(bid ask is 17.95-18.00)


So, where's it at now, up a whole buck in a year and a half?

Yo-u should have boug...


I don't recall people even touting the Dow or S&P as a wise investment a year ago. Sure enough, it's looking bubblelicious...and to Iwog's credit, he said that he expected the market to enter a full on bubble and collapse late this year if I remember correctly. A rising S&P euphoria is hardly an argument to use against ARLP. I don't think it will last. Meanwhile, I think the 10% distributions are likely to continue. A 10% dividend with a flat price is being ridiculed. What's wrong with this picture?
380   SubOink   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 2, 5:27pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Sniper says
$18. You were even considering buying more at $18. in August


and I did...so what??

it's been paying out nicely...and today $20.10

what exactly is bad about it, please explain?
381   SubOink   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 2, 5:28pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Nobody says - buy ARLP but do not buy SPY...one doesn't exclude the other - I bet you didn't buy the index fund or ARLP
382   SubOink   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 2, 5:30pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Sniper says
Yo-u should have bought a index fund in August instead of this dog, then you'd be "gloriously rich"


You'd be up roughly 15% ...barely gloriously rich
383   anon_ec772   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 2, 7:35pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Sniper says
That's a lot better than the 1% you're up.


Ummmmmmm this stock pays 10% per year in dividends.

Why are you trolling an old thread from someone who doesn't even post here anymore?
384   SubOink   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 2, 10:32pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Sniper says
That's a lot better than the 1% you're up.


1% + dividend of 10% = 11% - better then you're imaginary 15%, since you didn't buy anything :)
385   anon_fad35   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 3, 7:37am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

probably? you mean you haven't done the calculation yet?

sounds too good to be true. $200 cash flow top.

just_passing_through says
It'll probably cash flow 500/month after paying the mortgage.
386   just_passing_through   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 3, 8:15am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

anon_fad35 says
probably? you mean you haven't done the calculation yet?

sounds too good to be true. $200 cash flow top.

just_passing_through says
It'll probably cash flow 500/month after paying the mortgage.


No numb nuts I haven't finished the deal yet. It'll close at the end of the month. It's a pretty good estimate based on the other two houses I rent out in that subdivision. I get free property management and it's in one of the fastest growing zip codes in the nation.

All three put together won't equate to my short term vacation rental in Maui.
387   just_passing_through   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 3, 8:16am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Some others are putting anon folks on ignore. I'm going to do the same.
388   errc   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 3, 8:53am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Sniper says
SubOink says
Sniper says
That's a lot better than the 1% you're up.


1% + dividend of 10% = 11% - better then you're imaginary 15%, since you didn't buy anything :)


You're right, I DIDN'T listen to Iwog and DIDN'T get suckered into buy ARLP. What I bought is up 23% plus the dividends.

Oops...


WHy not post it when you buy it like IWOG did with his reccomendations? That way there's some substance to these types of conversations. Btw 23% is paltry in this environment where my ARLP is up 70% and most of my other investments are up 200% +.

Go ahead and start your own thread about Snipers stock picks so we can track their performance and tail your picks or fade them if we think they are bad picks destined to lose money. At least you'll have some accountability which gives you some reason to comment on other peoples threads, like this one where you are oddly obsessed likely because you sold short around 11 or 12$ when IWOG first recommended purchasing ARLP and took it in the shorts
389   errc   ignore (2)   2018 Jan 3, 9:51am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Sniper says
errc says
and most of my other investments are up 200% +


Right, you're up 200% the last year, keep dreaming..

errc says
you sold short around 11 or 12$ when IWOG first recommended purchasing ARLP and took it in the shorts


Which part of this comment below of mine don't yo-u understand?

Sniper says
You're right, I DIDN'T listen to Iwog and DIDN'T get suckered into buying ARLP.


Is that difficult for yo-u to understand?


I didn't say 200% in the last year

I have multiple plays that doubled and tripled in the past MONTH!
390   anon_fad35   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 3, 3:20pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

first of all you obviously don't know what cash flow means, which is why it is severely inflated as pointed out. then you got defensive and started the name calling because not only you were ignorant you couldn't handle one single criticism, even a constructive one.

it's very stupid that you spend on that money on RE and don't even bother looking up the definition of the simplest term.

you listing all of your investments online doesn't make you a better investor. even if they could be proven online, which they can't. accept you were wrong and try to learn from your mistakes will.

just_passing_through says
anon_fad35 says
probably? you mean you haven't done the calculation yet?

sounds too good to be true. $200 cash flow top.

just_passing_through says
It'll probably cash flow 500/month after paying the mortgage.


No numb nuts I haven't finished the deal yet. It'll close at the end of the month. It's a pretty good estimate based on the other two houses I rent out in that subdivision. I get free property management and it's in one of the fastest growing zip codes in the nation.

All three put together won't equate to my short term vacation rental in Maui.
391   anon_604a7   ignore (0)   2018 Jan 3, 3:20pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

Just checked one of my stock accounts. In one account I only have Apple Amazon Google and they have gone up 14% since I bought them in July 2017.

And this is without any research, any consulting with any financial advisors, online oracles. Basically I just pick three biggest tech names and bought them.

How are these dividend stocks doing? Still trying to stay above 11% per year? After pages after pages of researching, analyzing, debating I expect better performance.

If I’m going listen to some stock pick expert the stocks better do significantly better than the average 10% a year otherwise what is the point? Even no brainer, can never ever lose money, giant tech stocks like AAPL Amazon and Google do 25-35% this last year.

Yes it is considered a big opportunity loss even if you got 10% dividend in this case.
392   anon_7c0c9   ignore (3)   2018 Jan 3, 5:18pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

anon_604a7 says
Yes it is considered a big opportunity loss even if you got 10% dividend in this case.


The stock was recommended at $11, not $20. This thread was created after it had almost doubled. Then add dividends. I'm not sure if it's intentional but one of the greatest recommendations ever seen on patnet continues to be trolled and I'm not sure why.
393   mell   ignore (1)   2018 Jan 3, 5:28pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

anon_7c0c9 says
but one of the greatest recommendations ever seen on patnet


lol duck detected

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