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YesYNot says

...parents of dead hero soldier.

I'm sorry they lost their son. And I am glad they are good patriotic Muslim Americans.
If all the Muslims were like the Khan's, we would have no terrorism, and Trump would not have attacked Muslims. Sadly, that is not the case. Most Muslims hate America.

Strategist says

I'm sorry they lost their son. And I am glad they are good patriotic Muslim Americans.

Congratulations. You have proven to be much more presidential than the thin skinned narcissist. I don't know if it's a plus or a minus, but it looks like he thought about this one for a while before firing off his insults.

YesYNot says

Congratulations. You have proven to be much more presidential than the thin skinned narcissist.

Trump is not very Presidential when it comes to verbal attacks. However, he seems more honest than the usual politicians who hide their true feelings.
If the choice is between someone who speaks his mind vs. someone who gives the usual bullshit, who would you trust?

Strategist says

If the choice is between someone who speaks his mind vs. someone who gives the usual bullshit, who would you trust?

If the choice is between someone who has the professionalism, courtesy, and temperament to know when NOT to speak their mind, versus someone that does not have these attributes ?

That's a no brainer.

The idea that it's always good to speak your mind is absurd. IT isn't even dishonest to keep some things to yourself, ESPECIALLY when those things are based on emotions or psychological factors that you might feel differently about later.

Strategist says

However, he seems more honest than the usual politicians who hide their true feelings.

It's because he can't: he's a narcissistic man-baby with no self-regulation.

Ironman says

How does this compare to all the mothers of felons and thugs that came out on the stage at the DNC to spew their crap but Hillary and the DNC didn't give the same recognition and time to the families of the police officers brutally assassinated?

This clearly worries me. Whose side are the democrats on? The police or the criminals?

Ironman says

There were a hell of a lot more police officers murdered than this one soldier.

There were lots of soldiers who died in battle. Why pick an exception? The willingness of Hillary fighting Islamic terrorism is questionable at this point. Bill Clinton would make a better candidate.

We know not all Muslims are bad, but many coming in from Isis, democrats don't have a point here playing that mother card

DNC isn't really a backlash, they hated Republicans for years.

marcus says

The idea that it's always good to speak your mind is absurd. IT isn't even dishonest to keep some things to yourself, ESPECIALLY when those things are based on emotions or psychological factors that you might feel differently about later.

OK, I agree on this point.

Strategist says

However, he seems more honest than the usual politicians who hide their true feelings.

So do you admire Cruz for refusing to endorse Trump?

HydroCabron says

Strategist says

However, he seems more honest than the usual politicians who hide their true feelings.

So do you admire Cruz for refusing to endorse Trump?

Cruz is an asshole.

Ironman says

on his principals

Buy a dictionary.

Strategist says

Cruz is an asshole.

But he speaks his mind. Doesn't that negate a lot of flaws in someone's character, to your way of thinking?

DieBankOfAmericaPhukkingDie says

effeminate Sam Kinison

Trump, with voice corrected for better comprehension:

www.youtube.com/embed/ROnVNY5K-J8

Strategist says

However, he seems more honest than the usual politicians who hide their true feelings.

If the choice is between someone who speaks his mind vs.

Trump is a compulsive liar. He consistently lies about all sorts of things. He does say outrageous things (usually racist or conservative or tough guy things) on a regular basis to get attention. Then he walks it back when he gets the interviews. It's comical, but has little to do with honesty.

Ironman says

didn't become two-face and fold like a cheap lawn chair like Bernie did.

Bernie never said that he would prefer trump to Hillary. He has always said that Hillary would be much better than Trump,. Totally consistent. Cruz on the other hand used to cozy up to trump when he thought Trump would fold early. Inconsistent and unprincipled.

Strategist says

DNC didn't give the same recognition and time to the families of the police officers brutally assassinated?

They gave many more speaking slots to police than mother's of people the police killed. The overall message was one of bringing the two groups together and having common sense gun control. There were at least five police officers that I saw speak. There were at least three slots for families of fallen police officers.

HydroCabron says

Strategist says

Cruz is an asshole.

But he speaks his mind. Doesn't that negate a lot of flaws in someone's character, to your way of thinking?

Cruz is not consistent in speaking his mind. He bullshits when it's to his benefit. He stabbed his own party in the back. What an asshole.

YesYNot says

It's comical, but has little to do with honesty.

I guess he'll fit in perfectly with the Washington crowd.

YesYNot says

They gave many more speaking slots to police than mother's of people the police killed. The overall message was one of bringing the two groups together and having common sense gun control. There were at least five police officers that I saw speak. There were at least three slots for families of fallen police officers.

OK, maybe you are right. The only thing I saw in the 2 conventions was Trump's speech. I'm no fan of politics.

YesYNot says

Trump is a compulsive liar. He consistently lies about all sorts of things.

Still took rank and file establishment republicans to task for stupid things they did in past and when confronted, would traditionally double down on. Will be interesting to see if he could continue that moving forward

YesYNot says

It's comical, but has little to do with honesty.

Makes for good tv, something Hillary can't do in addition to being as much of a compulsive liar as trump

Bravo!

We're all pretty much sick of the Lbierals commie floor smooching shit at this point. Was that the motherfucker talking shit to Trump during the DNC?
Trump wasn't President, what ever happened to thier kid they need to blame Obama and get their shit straight. Fuck them we're sick of kissing clockmeds ass.

I saw some other emotional video's on the Khan's. Trump will not win this one. It's best for him to ignore the Khan's and stick to attacking Islamic terrorists.

Didn't the Scarlett Whore of no street call the Benghazi parents a liar?
There was a real fallen hero.

Most people agree that by today's "standards" Trumps hip-shooting quips may not be very presidential - of course presidents in former times used harsh language regularly, but it has become a PC no-no. I think it would be good for the Donald to be a bit softer sometimes, but all this identity politics crap does is detract from the real issues. And in this case Khan viciously attacked Trump with blabbering bs ,and Trump responded on the same level, while acknowledging that Khan's son was a war hero (which has nothing to do with today's migrant problems). Not to forget that Trump has always been raising large sums of money for army vets of all colors and religions. Like Strat said, there are many heroes of all religions and colors in the army including Khan's son, but that has nothing to do with the incompatibility of most forms of Islam and western values. European countries are just coming around to finally have the guts to try and ban the burka, which basically rolled back 100 years of women's liberation movements. During WW2 there were many German heroes who helped Jewish refugees to survive by hiding them while risking their own lives, however it would have been idiotic for the allies to change their war against Hitler because the majority of Germans weren't nearly as evil as their command. These identity politics stand-offs accomplish nothing.

Ironman says

You seriously have some comprehension issues. What you "hear" at first is the liberal media "spinning" and doing a cut and paste of his comments. Then when a follow-up interview takes place, ALL the FACTS come out, which then destroys the original libbie attack. You really need to find better "news" sources:

And that's another big problem. Interviews are doctored in a way that they are truncated and reordered to sound really harsh (while they still can claim they did not alter or add words) and released back into the public, inciting more division. Reminds me of the Zimmerman tapes where he said 'Looks like he's up to no good' and minutes later after being asked for a description he told the dispatcher that 'he's black' and then they simply put those 2 sentences next to each other to make a good story. The media would be very disappointed and try to come up with all kinds of doctored stuff if Trump suddenly would start commenting "softly". They basically would run out of material, it's all they got right now.

Cowards get five deferments? & let others serve.

Ironman says

Bernie campaigned for a year AGAINST the 1%ers and Hillary's favoritism of Wall Street,

Bernie knows trump will be better for the 1pct than Hillary, because he can read a tax plan and knows how Washington works. He also knows that Trump will be disastrous for our country and for social issues which Bernie cares a lot about. The one good thing about a trump presidency is that it may lead to a huge mid term turnout to get the house back to Democrats. That's why Bernie has said throughout the debates and primary that Hillary would be better than Trump. Total consistency.

mell says

And that's another big problem. Interviews are doctored in a way that they are truncated and reordered to sound really harsh (while they still can claim they did not alter or add words) and released back into the publi

Yes, that's a problem.

Another problem is that the version Trump's people released makes him look just as bad, so your objection is irrelevant in this case.

mell says

all this identity politics crap does is detract from the real issues

Trump's campaign begins and ends with identity politics. When pressed for policy details, his response is "Just watch - I alone can fix this. Now let me tell you what these Muslims did to us."

I know that patrick.net is now an alt-right racist site, but can you post less laughably incoherent nonsense?

Ironman says

Because everybody that went out there, we also had John Allen who failed with ISIS. I mean, he was a general, Allen, General Allen.

Allen is well respected in the military. People know who he is. No one knew who Flynn was until he exploded a can of bat shit crazy at the RNC.

I posted this, because the whole thing is a perfect example of thin skinned don saying something stupid. It's really irrelevant otherwise. Kahn did a great job and was very moving. He's an example of someone you can not attack and look good. At least Trump didn't tweet about the disabled girl who Hillary helped years ago. He might get around to it though. He might not have watched that one yet. We can always hope.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/31/politics/khizr-khan-donald-trump-black-soul/

Ironman says

What was that you said about being honest and not misleading?

I am being honest. When there are 30% democrats and 26% republicans, you can state this as either 4 points more democrats or 15% more democrats. When you use one terminology in one case and the other terminology in the other case to make your point look better, you are just making yourself look like a dishonest participant. Or, more colorfully, when you do that you look like a dishonest douchebag. Did you do that on accident, because you don't understand math? If so, then I will apologize. If not, why did you use that trick?Ironman says

Yes, let's carry on and on for a week

It will be carried on for as long as Donald is stupid enough to talk about it. Hopefully, he will attempt to avenge his honor.

Ironman says

Yes, let's carry on and on for a week with this minor issue

The RNC trotted out grieving relatives to attack Hillary. She kept her mouth shut, and it died down.

This would have dropped immediately after the Democratic National Convention, but Lil' Donny Birther always responds to attacks. He has kept it going as the Democrats have stayed out of the way: if your enemy is determined to destroy himself, don't get in his way.

I look forward to seeing how 'Bloomberg' writes about Trump after Trump said he wanted to punch the little one in the face so hard his head spun around. Smart move, that. Can't wait until he is working 'for' all of us.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-07-31/backlash-grows-against-trump-s-comments-on-dead-muslim-soldier-s-parents

Ironman says

whiners just can't handle direct statements

9/11 happened because of the Failure, standard operating procedure, of Republicans.
Republican WMD LIE killed American servicemen.

Let me get Republican whiners a crying towel.

Fuck anyone that says Trump hasn't read The U.S. Constitution,
although it was 140 characters at a time.

Ironman says

Which makes your statement a lie again.

I acknowledge that in my initial post, here: http://patrick.net/?p=1293902&c=1309843#comment-1309843

Why do you attempt to call me a liar, when I provided you with the links you are using and acknowledged that the lead has disappeared. In my example of 30% and 26% is using the numbers that you were using here: http://patrick.net/?p=1293902&c=1309849#comment-1309849

You know what you did. I pointed it out. You couldn't respond to it, so you changed the subject and called me a liar. That's why people don't want to talk to you. OK, go ahead and make up some more shit if you want. I'm done.

Here's John Allen responding to Trump in general and directly referencing Kahn's family. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ret-gen-john-allen-donald-trump-credibility/story?id=41021091

HydroCabron says

Trump's campaign begins and ends with identity politics. When pressed for policy details, his response is "Just watch - I alone can fix this. Now let me tell you what these Muslims did to us."

Trump has a program on his website, it is the left who constantly chooses not to debate the policies but go for "racist", "misogynist", "fat birther". A losing strategy thus far. It's the wrong way if you want to beat him.

MMR says

Makes for good tv, something Hillary can't do in addition to being as much of a compulsive liar as trump

Father needs to ask himself about his son joining an illegal war, when it was clear at the time - and proven now that the 'missing pages' have been released - that Saudi Arabia, not Saddam Hussein, were the main drivers behind 9/11.

We should also ask why it's not a big deal that a major party candidate gets so much money from a country that is the #1 or #2 funder of Islamist Terrorism worldwide, Saudi Arabia.

Thousands of US Citizens did NOT die in a Night Wolves Terror Attack, but in a Saudi Islamist Terror Attack, on 9/11.