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1   Ceffer   2016 Sep 22, 10:55pm  

I'm surprised he didn't include that it straightens your teeth and will put orthodontists out of business, and works better than liposuction.

2   mmmarvel   2016 Sep 23, 6:00am  

Ceffer says

I'm surprised he didn't include that it straightens your teeth and will put orthodontists out of business, and works better than liposuction.

Fixes global warming too - it becomes climate change (lol).

3   HydroCabron   2016 Sep 23, 6:35am  

Marijuana/hemp is the homeopathy of the 21st century.

Fixes flat tires, bad finances and polio.

I have no idea how people could be this credulous. Oh, wait: they're potheads.

4   anonymous   2016 Sep 23, 8:10am  

Here in the land of the free, it's best to err on the side of caution, and employee millions of jackbooted thugs to terrorize any whom might seek relief via cannabis use. After all, we wouldn't want crotchety fuck losers to have to suffer the consequences of their fellow citizens finding relief or pleasure from such a benign plant. American Liberty hinges on continuing to imprison cannabis users by the millions

5   HEY YOU   2016 Sep 23, 8:22am  

I smoke a joint to forget how stupid D & R voters are.

There is no cancer or other severe diseases. The medical profession & it's
healthcare dedication has solved all aliments but broke ass fuckers can't pay cash for care.

6   Blurtman   2016 Sep 23, 9:14am  

But smoking it may not be a good idea. Try eating it or using a vaporizer.

7   NuttBoxer   2016 Sep 23, 10:16am  

Research has been done outside of the US, where government isn't as anti-science, that shows that certain CBD's can lock with cancer cells and send them a message to shutdown. As cancer is a zombie mutation that won't die, and the endocannibinoid system is designed for the purpose of slowing or stopping adverse reactions in the body, this is a pretty logical conclusion.

The problem is medical only use laws have mixed recreational and medical users into the same pot, pun intended. Medical cannabis needs to break from this association if it is ever to be taken seriously, but that can only happen with full legalization. Let the potheads get their dope at Walmart, keep dispensaries for connoisseurs, and open clinics for medical patients.

8   freespeechforever   2016 Sep 23, 10:24am  

I don't smoke pot, but it's demonstrably less harmful than alcohol or MANY pharmaceuticals.

Notice that I did not say it has no adverse side effects (it disrupts neurological pathways, which is problematic particularly in teens or younger people).

Even with that said, it has proven, quantifiable benefits that translate into beneficial efficacy to treat many medical conditions (e.g, glaucoma, e.g. nausea, e.g. inhibition of malignant cell growth, etc.), with far less pernicious side effects than many prescribed pharmaceuticals.

At the end of the day, reasonable people will agree that anyone with serious, debilitating or terminal illnesses, should be able to legally consume as much marijuana as they wish, particularly in a "free country' whereby doctors and patients decide on what is and isn't advantageous using a risk/reward balance test.

9   Ernie   2016 Sep 23, 11:33am  

From cancer.gov:

Antitumor activity

Studies in mice and rats have shown that cannabinoids may inhibit tumor growth by causing cell death, blocking cell growth, and blocking the development of blood vessels needed by tumors to grow. Laboratory and animal studies have shown that cannabinoids may be able to kill cancer cells while protecting normal cells.
A study in mice showed that cannabinoids may protect against inflammation of the colon and may have potential in reducing the risk of colon cancer, and possibly in its treatment.
A laboratory study of delta-9-THC in hepatocellular carcinoma (liver cancer) cells showed that it damaged or killed the cancer cells. The same study of delta-9-THC in mouse models of liver cancer showed that it had antitumor effects. Delta-9-THC has been shown to cause these effects by acting on molecules that may also be found in non-small cell lung cancer cells and breast cancer cells.
A laboratory study of cannabidiol (CBD) in estrogen receptor positive and estrogen receptor negative breast cancer cells showed that it caused cancer cell death while having little effect on normal breast cells. Studies in mouse models of metastatic breast cancer showed that cannabinoids may lessen the growth, number, and spread of tumors.
A laboratory study of cannabidiol (CBD) in human glioma cells showed that when given along with chemotherapy, CBD may make chemotherapy more effective and increase cancer cell death without harming normal cells. Studies in mouse models of cancer showed that CBD together with delta-9-THC may make chemotherapy such as temozolomide more effective.

This is not imagination of some New Age, pothead, but peer-reviewed medical studies.

It is perfectly clear that components of marijuana have proven health benefits for cancer patients. Also, it is probably understudied because of its controlled status.

10   freespeechforever   2016 Sep 23, 11:44am  

It's entirely possible that canniboids have anti-tumor effects in human cells, but using mice studies to purport such is clearly erroneous and scientifically invalid.

11   truth will find you   2016 Sep 23, 11:48am  

Immediate execution should be the police response if they even suspect marijuana on someone. Unless the local for profit prison needs more business, then life without parol is the only suitable sentence.

We can never be too careful. Bluelifepensions matter.

12   Ernie   2016 Sep 23, 12:02pm  

I believe these are human cancer cells transplanted onto mice in most of the quoted studies (human tumor xenograft or genetically engineered mice models), so the studies are relevant and scientifically valid. Of course, the road from demonstrating the concept and actual anticancer drug is very long, expensive, and prone to failures at many stages. Also, since I am only peripherally related to medchem world, I am not sure how the patent business would work out - if it does not, drug companies will not spend half a billion to bring something to market that will not give them profit.

13   freespeechforever   2016 Sep 23, 12:10pm  

I support the ability to dispense and use marijuana to treat specific conditions and in all cases whereby a person is suffering a terminal illness - full stop.

I'm just commenting that the ability of canniboids to inhibit the development or growth of cancer cells & tumor mass cell growth IN HUMANS has not yet been proven through clinical trials.

14   Ernie   2016 Sep 23, 12:48pm  

freespeechforever says

the ability of canniboids to inhibit the development or growth of cancer cells & tumor mass cell growth IN HUMANS has not yet been proven through clinical trials.

And it will not be proven, unless Big Pharma can patent these compounds - clinical studies in humans are prohibitively expensive. I might be wrong, but if the compound is found in Nature, they can patent its use, but not the compound itself, which makes getting around the patent very easy. Thus no one in his right mind will sink hundreds of millions into human trials.

15   Blurtman   2016 Sep 23, 1:14pm  

There are composition of matter patents which might apply if, for example, an inventor modified the pot. And then there are method of use patents, covering a way of doing something. In the latter case, even though pot may be a known entity, perhaps a way of using it might be patentable.

16   NuttBoxer   2016 Sep 23, 1:31pm  

freespeechforever says

I'm just commenting that the ability of canniboids to inhibit the development or growth of cancer cells & tumor mass cell growth IN HUMANS has not yet been proven through clinical trials.

If human trials haven't already been conducted outside of the US, by this point they should have been. The evidence is overwhelming:
https://www.medicaljane.com/2013/12/18/studies-suggest-cannabinoids-may-kill-human-cancer-cells/

Of course you can't patent a plant designed by God, so no money for big pharma is this cure...

17   Ceffer   2016 Sep 23, 2:22pm  

The for profit marijuana lobby is just treading the time honored path of all addictive substances: pay off some white coat to "prove" that it is great for your health because it makes you feel good temporarily. It's been done with alcohol, tobacco, heroin, morphine, laudanum, cocaine etc. and now it's THC's turn. Remember all those doctor ads in the 50's with doctors smoking and recommending the most healthful tobaccos?

THCs actually do have medicinal value, but in relatively minor ways in comparison to turning your brain to pudding, or scorching your lungs.

It's a good anti-emetic, works with some forms of glaucoma, offers a limited pain relief benefit, and is also good for motion sickness.

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