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News about Trump is always Opinion why is that?

Should be a fair debate then, cause Hillary doesn't know anything BUT lies. Guess it will be one liar versus another liar. And this is news cause why??

Media and Leftys see a Trump win coming and they're panicking.

If you ain't lying you ain't trying. Much like posting on Patnet, in politics sometimes you gotta get down in the mud and fling poo. Crooked Hildebeast does it nonstop, I'm glad we have a candidate that isn't afraid to get dirty as well.

Quigley is deplorable says

Media and Leftys see a Trump win coming and they're panicking.

everyone who isn't stupid is panicking.

The Deplorable DFJ says

If you ain't lying you ain't trying.

wow, even for you that is remarkably stupid...

He'll lie if he speaks, but only if.

Two candidates to choose from... and you accuse Trump of being the liar??

/Close thread now

BayArea says

Two candidates to choose from... and you accuse Trump of being the liar??

Remarkable isn't it? Someone actually exists who lies much more often and more poorly than Clinton does...and it just so happens to be her opponent. Truth is stranger than fiction.

Tenpoundbass says

News about Trump is always Opinion why is that?

TPB, you need to join TD in figuring out what an editorial pages, and columnists are all about. THe title of this thread is a reasonable prediction about Monday.

Everyone knows Trump lies constantly. It's one of the things you must love about him. Hey, to each their own. Some people think that the kind of extreme dishonesty that Trump practices, even with himself (as you do) is about as close to the definition of evil as you can get.

tovarichpeter says

Trump will lie repeatedly on Monday night

Are they saying that Trump is going to troll Hillary in much the way that right wing dimbulbs troll people on this forum ?

For I am not calling on the news media to take a side; I’m just calling on it to report what is actually happening, without regard for party. In fact, any reporting that doesn’t accurately reflect the huge honesty gap between the candidates amounts to misleading readers, giving them a distorted picture that favors the biggest liar.

Yet there are, of course, intense pressures on the news media to engage in that distortion. Point out a Trump lie and you will get some pretty amazing mail — and if we set aside the attacks on your race or ethnic group, accusations that you are a traitor, etc., most of it will declare that you are being a bad journalist because you don’t criticize both candidates equally.

That is an interesting point.

As is this

One all-too-common response to such attacks involves abdicating responsibility for fact-checking entirely, and replacing it with theater criticism: Never mind whether what the candidate said is true or false, how did it play? How did he or she “come across”? What were the “optics”?

But theater criticism is the job of theater critics; news reporting should tell the public what really happened, not be devoted to speculation about how other people might react to what happened.

But it is an interesting dilemma. If Trump uses lies, as he always does, against HIllary in the debate, will it be impossible to report that without it being claimed that it's the liberal media bias ? Will Patrick be saying that journalists reporting the truth about Trump's dishonesty is the elitist liberals saying that honesty is better than lying as if they know better than the rest of us that honesty is better than lying ?