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Other than a few liberals who just want to mock someone for making too much money, no one gives a damn Marcus.

FortWayne says

no one gives a damn Marcus.

Funny, you're the same guy who on this forum exaggerated the percentage of your income that goes to taxes. Tell me Fortwayne, in the years when you made a decent income, not millions, how much did you pay in taxes ?

Maybe you're right. If they don't care that he lies at least 5 times as much as Hillary, and switches his positions so much on every issue that you can't possibly predict what kind of President he will be, then yeah, why would THOSE people care about whether he pays any taxes ?

And if they do care about honesty and political risk, then they are already strongly against Trump. So you might be right. It doesn't matter.

Trump might be a terrible person, but the great thing about that is he scares the intelligent folks. And they will be miserable if he wins. And that alone makes the prospect of his possible Presidency ever so delightful. After all, you've had to deal with having a liberal, black, faggy, Muslim, Harvard Law grad, smarty pants constitutional law professor as President for 8 years. It's time for a little payback. Am I right ?

marcus says

Maybe you're right.

Of course he's not right. The Trumpkins don't care. Lots of people in the middle care. Even some who will vote for Trump will do it in spite of the taxes. It's not that he's using his legitimate losses. The problem is how does someone go from broke (negative net worth) to $10B in net worth without paying taxes. How does he manage to fund his lifestyle with zero income? The only really legitimate method is to delay taxation by declaring depreciation. But that only covers the building portion of principle over 28 yrs. The rest and his living expenses have to come out of income. He claims his debt to worth is 20% or something in that area. The numbers don't seem to add up. He needs to show us what he did.

FortWayne says

no one gives a damn Marcus.

Exactly.

Americans are focused intently on the most important issue: Hillary's responsibility for Bill's infidelity. We are too too focused on Bill's cheating in the 1990s to worry about stupid shit like taxes.

Trump gets no credit for his modesty.

He didn't release his tax returns because he didn't want us to know he was a genius.

Trump:

"I'd like to give myself credit for taking the high road and not talking about monica sucking his cock and getting spluge all over her pretty blue dress. Cause I, Donald Trump, am a classy guy, and would never want to mention hillary's husband getting his cock sucked. SO I won't use word like getting cock sucked, or cigar up monica's pussy in our next debate. Plus, Chelsea is there, and I respect her, so I won't talk about her dad getting his cocked sucked, and poking cigars in Monca's dripping wet pussy, then smokeing it, plus Monica is fat... I don't want to be mean to chelsea and talk about Bill's getting his cock sucked, or pussy wet cigar in front of her. I'm going to keep it classy, and cock sucking cigar fucking clean. " ps, please give me credit for not mentioning cock sucking pussy flavored cigars!

unfuckingbelievable!

"Fuck you all, and fuck your fucking taxes! SUCK MY DICK, AMERICA!"

Anyone that doesn't know that a multi-millionaire's/multi-billionaire's absolute focus is on the 99%
should DIE! yesterday.
Be sure to vote against your best interest in NOV.

I think he'll do fine as Presdient.

HEY YOU says

Be sure to vote against your best interest in NOV.

Tenpoundbass says

I think he'll do fine as Presdient.

marcus says

Funny, you're the same guy who on this forum exaggerated the percentage of your income that goes to taxes. Tell me Fortwayne, in the years when you made a decent income, not millions, how much did you pay in taxes ?

Too much, and it's none of your business.

You liberals claim you want privacy, but always get into other peoples business. Now you want to see everyones taxes, next you'll want medical records, and every single detail of a person's life. This is exactly the kind of liberal BS that inspires the kinds of NSA to take away our privacy and spy on us every minute of the day so they know everything about us.

FortWayne says

Now you want to see everyones taxes

By everyone, you mean Presidential candidates, that have always disclosed taxes ? Really, that's what you're going to go with considering that all republicans agree and even Trump is on the record saying Romney needed to disclose his ?

FortWayne says

This is exactly the kind of liberal BS that inspires the kinds of NSA to take away our privacy

So you're going to vote for the authoritarian ?

No, Hillary's comment about Bernie supporters being basement dwellers will dominate the remainder of the election

Booger says

Hillary's comment about Bernie supporters being basement dwellers

As we know here at Patrick.net, the only ones pissed off by that were the supporters of Bernie that are basement dwellers.

THe deplorables comment was far worse. Way more people were offended by that one.

New York Times paid no taxes in 2014

Booger says

New York Times paid no taxes in 2014

Apparently this somehow undoes the fact that Trump won't disclose his tax info., and probably has paid next to nothing in taxes while building his wealth into the billions.

Trump's speaking fees will probably drive away the remainder of his support. Huge panic at Trump HQ over these numbers:

Wow - robocop does pretty well.

marcus says

By everyone, you mean Presidential candidates, that have always disclosed taxes ? Really, that's what you're going to go with considering that all republicans agree and even Trump is on the record saying Romney needed to disclose his ?

Just because they do it, doesn't mean it should be still that way. Family income is private matter, you nosy liberals don't need to get involved in other peoples business. Constitution doesn't require one to disclose taxes to become president, you might have noticed.

FortWayne says

Family income is private matter

I agree. I don't want to know your income, although you are entitled to know mine, becasue I work for the govt., but that's beside the point.

The reason candidates show their taxes is to show there are no conflicts of interest. But also these days, people are interested when the candidate is extremely wealthy what kind of taxes they pay. This is still a democracy, and a huge majority thinks we should see a Presidential candidates taxes.

Also about the income privacy point ? Trump a a gauche bloviating oafish type that loves to constantly brag about how much he's worth and what his income was last year, so I'd say mission accomplished if you were intentionally trying to look stupid again.

marcus says

FortWayne says

Family income is private matter

I agree. I don't want to know your income, although you are entitled to know mine, becasue I work for the govt., but that's beside the point.

The reason candidates show their taxes is to show there are no conflicts of interest. But also these days, people are interested when the candidate is extremely wealthy what kind of taxes they pay. This is still a democracy, and a huge majority thinks we should see a Presidential candidates taxes.

Also about the income privacy point ? Trump a a gauche bloviating oafish type that loves to constantly brag about how much he's worth and what his income was last year, so I'd say mission accomplished if you were intentionally trying to look stupid again.

Do you believe in the IRS? Are they not competent to do their job?

How about domination by this price history?
http://showrealhist.com

errc says

Do you believe in the IRS? Are they not competent to do their job?

BIG difference between being legally compliant with the IRS, and having huge entaglements with say, Russia, which would make you susceptible to pressure to deal with Russia to protect your interests rather than the countries interests. Unfucking believable that you can't see this, yet claim to be smart.

marcus says

The reason candidates show their taxes is to show there are no conflicts of interest.

IRS already knows that information. Everyone else doesn't need it.

marcus says

This is still a democracy, and a huge majority thinks we should see a Presidential candidates taxes.

What "huge majority" and what exactly what do you mean by Democracy Marcus? Sure there are people who desire to see other peoples private matters... there are people who desire to own other peoples stuff too. However, they are not in line with constitution and unalienable rights and won't necessarily get what they want.

marcus says

Also about the income privacy point ? Trump a a gauche bloviating oafish type that loves to constantly brag about how much he's worth and what his income was last year, so I'd say mission accomplished if you were intentionally trying to look stupid again.

Well maybe next time your neighbor brags about how smart their kids are, demand they show full transcripts. See how that goes. I just don't see your point marcus.

FortWayne says

IRS already knows that information. Everyone else doesn't need it.

wow you really are that FUCKING STUPID. seriously this stupid? DO NOT BREED FOR the love of the human gene pool!

the IRS will only care if taxes are legal; they wouldn't have any reason or legal jurisdiction to rule on ANYTHING ELSE that could impact someone's ability to be impartial as president.

You are too stupid to contribute, don't post.

you win. Ironvagina is pretty dumb, but you just take the fucking cake as so fucking stupid that you can't evaluate your own stupidity.

FortWayne says

What "huge majority" and what exactly what do you mean by Democracy Marcus? Sure there are people who desire to see other peoples private matters

Wanting to know things about a Presidential candidate, even private things such as where their income comes from, isn't the same as wanting to know all private things from all private citizens.

Nobody, that's right NOBODY tries to argue that Trump shouldn't have to show his taxes. Most of the dimbulbs that love him, simply tolerate the fact that he won't. But you're different eh fortwayne ?

FortWayne says

I just don't see your point marcus

THat much is clear. If I thought you possibly could, I would try to help you understand. But your stupidity knows no bounds. Actually, I still think you are just somebody trying to make conservatives look bad.. All the conservatives I know would think you are a total and utter retarded moron.

marcus says

Wanting to know things about a Presidential candidate, even private things such as where their income comes from, isn't the same as wanting to know all private things from all private citizens.

Marcus it is "the same". Income taxes are private, just like everything else. Today MSM media is clamoring for tax returns, tomorrow they'll be asking for health records. I strongly believe privacy must stand and defeat this "everyone should know everything about everyone" Animal Farm slippery slope. Besides Marcus, income taxes do not show where income comes from, so what you are saying is the reason to see them, isn't actually valid.

marcus says

But your stupidity knows no bounds.

Keep that liberal tolerance up Marcus, we need that authenticity to remind many voters what they are voting for this year.

FortWayne says

Income taxes are private, just like everything else.

Obama cared enough about trump voters to make sure that the Clinton foundation published it's donor list to make sure they could avoid conflicts of interest. Trump voters don't respect themselves as much as obama does. If they did they would demand that Donald show us his financials and conflicts.

At the end of 2016, I will be making a substantial cash donation to my favorite charity, the Fisher House Foundation. Over the next four years, I will be deducting a portion of that donation from my taxes.

The tax law allows it, so why not.

DieBankOfAmericaPhukkingDie says

Volstad gets my vote for President.

Why do end up with these twisted narcissists? Why is the presidency a therapy session for crazies?

Being endorsed by someone who wants Bank of America to "Phukking die?"

FortWayne says

"everyone should know everything about everyone" Animal Farm slippery slope

everybody isn't running for president. Are you seriously this stupid, or is this a joke account???

Sharingmyintelligencewiththedumbasses says

Are you seriously this stupid, or is this a joke account???

IT's a fake troll account, the purpose of which is to make conservatives look like retarded morons.

I know conservatives with much more nuanced respectable views. Many these days are vulnerable to feeling that they have to go with their team, without being able to justify it very well. They don't want to think about it too much or talk about it much. They often call themselves libertarians.

But conservatives such as George Will are at least 45 IQ points above FortWayne, if he's real. But as I said, I think it's fake. Possibly even Patrick, just having fun, sort of getting in touch with his inner retard, doing that "joy of triggering thing" but not all that well.

marcus says

FortWayne, if he's real. But as I said, I think it's fake.

I don't know... It's pretty consistent on the stupidity, I couldn't pull that off, at some point something would have some nuance of intelligence if I tried to write that stupid.

Those compassionate democrats are always calling everyone else racist, bigots, and retards.

I'm tipping they are too stupid to realize how pathetic they look tossing around the word retard as an insult. Far more offensive than 'nigger, or 'faggot'. But these people perpetually vote dem for a reason...in part because they can't stand to look in the mirror. All that self loathing takes a toll, it's no wonder they mindlessly support Heritage Foundation Care

errc says

Far more offensive than 'nigger, or 'faggot'.

Wow - why don't you explain how retard, short for mentally retarded, is worse than nigger.
Retarded used to be a clinical definition. It is now offensive, because it has been used inappropriately to make fun of people with a handicap, which is offensive because you are using someone with a handicap as a standard that other people don't want to be compared to. In other words, it's offensive in the same way that calling a guy a cunt or a bitch or saying that he has sand in his vagina is offensive. None of these things is as offensive as directly calling a black person a nigger or making fun of an actual handicapped person by mimicking him (cough - Trump - cough). Plus, if you are not offensive on the 1950s fraternity throwback board that is PatNet, you are assumed to be a pussy - bitch. Even this post will probably get people to say I've been #Triggered due to the short bit of sincerity included. Face it, this whole board has been reduced to a piece of multi-agent performance art.

I not concerned about Trump or any other 1-10 %s tax breaks.

Voters are the problem.
Stupid voters have a loss & can't take it as a deduction.
House was robbed,insurance didn't cover the total loss,could you write it off.
Car accident- loss?
Everything that depreciates-loss?
Medical bills not covered-loss?
Etc.,etc.,etc.?
Listening to D & R theology is a loss to my mental state.
Can't deduct this either?

Go ahead and continue to pay taxes.
STUPID STATUS QUO FUCKS!

Wait! I'm wrong again. IT'S NEVER YOUR FAULT!

Well if you ever hung around black people, you'd hear the word nigger repeatedly thrown around as a term of endearment.

Retard, on the other hand, is as poor taste of a slur as you can imagine. You have every right to use the word, just know that there's people out here in the real world that will not take lightly to it.

YesYNot says

Of course he's not right. The Trumpkins don't care. Lots of people in the middle care. Even some who will vote for Trump will do it in spite of the taxes. It's not that he's using his legitimate losses. The problem is how does someone go from broke (negative net worth) to $10B in net worth without paying taxes. How does he manage to fund his lifestyle with zero income?

You're right: supporters of Trump won't care.
Among the many reasons not to vote for Trump, taxes is one of the weakest.
He appears to have paid taxes as required by the law, which he didn't write.
The establishment and its champion: Hillary Clinton is to blame, not Trump.

The same goes with publishing his tax records. We all know he earned a lot and paid little taxes. So what?

It will be forrgotten after tonight's debate.
They should have waited and dropped his tax returns just a few days even just one day before the election.

If Trump is as smart as he says he is. He knows this is a petty tit for tat race against the evil corrupt Lamestream cabal.
He wins the polls shortly after every bold move. So much so, that the Lame stream media has to admit it.
Then they start their propaganda campaigns and assault him from all ends. Then lie and say he's behind the polls.
He's going to bounce after each of the last two debates. But the Clinton campaign will manufacture bullshit and release bogus polling nubmers.
And claim to be back up just days before the elction with no more Debates left to tarnish Hitlery's image.
Trump will have her number on November 7th.

They wont have time to do image control.

errc says

Well if you ever hung around black people, you'd hear the word nigger repeatedly thrown around as a term of endearment.

Hopefully with a lot of hard work, I can become as cool as you and 95% of 80 yr olds in this country. I'm going to immerse myself in 80s/90s rap and watch testimony of Al Gore's ex wife to see if I can get up to speed. Plus, maybe I'll start calling the black guy down the street 'my African American.' That ought to do it.