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Airline's policy to weigh passengers before they board draws complaints


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2016 Oct 5, 7:31am   5,234 views  35 comments

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/hawaiian-airlines-policy-weighing-passengers-american-samoa/

Airline's policy to weigh passengers before they board draws complaints from American Samoans

pair of American Samoan businessmen have filed complaints to the US Transportation Department over claims they were weighed before they boarded a flight from Honolulu – and assigned specific seats to keep the aircraft’s load evenly distributed.

According to Radio New Zealand, Hawaiian Airlines’ new policy – a response to an increase in average passenger weight – means those flying to or from Pago Pago, capital of American Samoa, can no longer choose their own seats online and may be asked to step on the scales before boarding.

The airline told the station that the expanding girth of the typical passenger means it is required to redistribute weight in its Boeing 767 cabins to meet the manufacturer’s guidelines. This means limiting the number of adults per row and reserving seats in certain rows for young children, the broadcaster's report said.

But Avamua Dave Haleck, one of the two businessmen to have taken action, believes the new rule is discriminatory because it only applies to those flying to or from American Samoa.

Radio New Zealand also pointed out that a Boeing 767-300, used on the Honolulu-Pago Pago route, can safely fly 269 passengers a distance of 11,000km, while the distance between the two cities is just 4,176km.

"Hawaiian is saying that it is a safety issue,” said Mr Haleck said, "so have we been flying unsafe for all these years?”

The move, it has been suggested, may be driven by the fact that American Samoa, according to the CIA’s World Factbook, has the highest rate of obesity in the world. A remarkable 74.6 per cent of its adult population are considered obese, it says, placing it above Nauru (71.1%) and the Cook Islands (63.7%). Those are figures for 2007 and 2008, however. More recent estimates claim the obesity rate could now be as high as 94 per cent.

In 2013, Samoa Air became the first airline in the world to charge passengers according to their size. Those flying on the South Pacific carrier, which largely operates domestic routes, were asked to pay one Samoan tālā (around 29p) for each kilo that they, combined with their luggage, weighed.

The policy received the backing of more than half of Telegraph Travel readers.

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1   Tenpoundbass   2016 Oct 5, 7:40am  

Liberals really are petty little pathetic snot whistles.

Policy comes from the top.

3   Tenpoundbass   2016 Oct 5, 8:02am  

Strategist says

American Samoa's battle against obesity as 95 per cent of the nation are declared overweight

Yeah I know what they said, I'm also supposed to believe that 70% of the people in America are obese because someone saw ten fat people at a Walmart a couple of times.

What's fat shaming supposed to do?

If the planes aren't safe enough to fly passengers then they aren't safe enough to carry all of that luggage and prepped food either.

What are we doing cutting corners on airline safety to stick it to a few fat guys? You folks are bigger idiots than I thought. You're going to die laughing at a fat man one day. As the crappy engineered vehicle you are in crashes and burns, because it was designed to fat shame people. You'll probably be the fuck behind the wheel. I mean everyone has someone more thin than they are. It's only a matter of time before you aren't up to someone's standards. So they declare that everything can be engineered haphazardly because there's a petty point to be made.

And you're a cop. What happens when they start making protective gear too small for you to wear because the idea Cop should look like Chinese Stick figure?

4   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2016 Oct 5, 8:34am  

Tenpoundbass says

And you're a cop. What happens when they start making protective gear too small for you to wear because the idea Cop should look like Chinese Stick figure?

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Fucking libberul commie bastards are trying to give fat cops free XL body armor. Pence Trump don't want to make the skinny cops subsidize the fatfuck cops. Make 'em pay their way. The skinny cops can't pay for the fat fuck's free shit forever.

5   zzyzzx   2016 Oct 5, 8:42am  

Tenpoundbass says

What's fat shaming supposed to do?

It's supposed to encourage people to eat less.

6   Dan8267   2016 Oct 5, 8:44am  

Waiting for some SWJ to get triggered on this.

7   Strategist   2016 Oct 5, 9:16am  

Tenpoundbass says

What's fat shaming supposed to do?

Get people to lose weight.

Tenpoundbass says

If the planes aren't safe enough to fly passengers then they aren't safe enough to carry all of that luggage and prepped food either.

Planes aren't safe enough to fly passengers that can't fit in their seats.

Tenpoundbass says

What are we doing cutting corners on airline safety to stick it to a few fat guys?

A few fat guys? Make that too many fat guys.

Tenpoundbass says

You folks are bigger idiots than I thought. You're going to die laughing at a fat man one day. As the crappy engineered vehicle you are in crashes and burns, because it was designed to fat shame people. You'll probably be the fuck behind the wheel.

Calm down Captain, it's just the internet.

8   junkmail   2016 Oct 5, 10:05am  

zzyzzx is deplorable says

pair of American Samoan businessmen

Let's be honest. It was just one guy.
Just looked and weighed as much as 2.

9   zzyzzx   2016 Oct 5, 10:07am  

I'd like to see the video of them weighing Trigglypuff before she gets on her next flight.

10   Blurtman   2016 Oct 5, 10:07am  

A new seat sharing/fare sharing app?

11   epitaph   2016 Oct 5, 10:56am  

zzyzzx is deplorable says

I'd like to see the video of them weighing Trigglypuff before she gets on her next flight.

I know we have a do not fly list, but what we really need is a do not feed list.

12   RC2006   2016 Oct 5, 12:36pm  

If the seat don't fit you must eject.

13   Tenpoundbass   2016 Oct 5, 12:40pm  

Strategist says

Get people to lose weight.

To what end?

14   Tenpoundbass   2016 Oct 5, 12:46pm  

What about people taller than 6'2" they don't deserve leg room?

What about people that are body builders and have more girth than you would like?

What about 9 month pregnant women surely they harm your flying experience somehow?

What about that thrombosis you're going get one day sitting 5 hours in your goddamned precious too small for a fat man to fly in chairs, and it creates a blood clot that goes to your brain and kills your petty ass?

15   Tenpoundbass   2016 Oct 5, 12:50pm  

And Stewardesses have always balanced the flight as passengers get on the plane. I have seen stewardesses ask passengers to move based on what she could see plain as day, move people around the plane.
She didn't have to weigh them and she didn't have to tell them way. But it's always a big person that they ask to change seats.

16   RC2006   2016 Oct 5, 1:08pm  

Width is more of an issue than height.

17   Tenpoundbass   2016 Oct 5, 1:11pm  

Not if you are over 6 foot and have to sit in seats designed by Millennial poofs that weigh 155 lbs and are 5'4".

Your knees freaking hurt after 3 hours Bah Leeb Meh!

18   turtledove   2016 Oct 5, 1:17pm  

Are they giving discounts to those who might be below average in the weight department? Now that I think about it, tickets should be priced by the pound. That's genius!

19   neplusultra57   2016 Oct 5, 1:19pm  

Airlines: fat shaming social justice warriors of the free market.

20   Y   2016 Oct 5, 1:26pm  

How about by the ounce to sate the dopies?
turtledove is deplorable says

Are they giving discounts to those who might be below average in the weight department? Now that I think about it, tickets should be priced by the pound. That's genius!

21   Tenpoundbass   2016 Oct 5, 1:36pm  

turtledove is deplorable says

Now that I think about it, tickets should be priced by the pound. That's genius!

And the post office should charge for how far from the post office you live.
Your cable should cost way more than mine I live next to the satellite dish array you live way out in your exclusive netherhoods, with your good schools and buried cables.
You should make less money if you need less than anyone else.
and...
and...
and...

When does it end. To what end I ask you guys? My protest goes way beyond me protesting fat shaming. I am a tall person who has a miserable flying experience because everyone is trying to stick to the fat guy. It just makes no damned sense. The air lines are fucking you over on what you pay for, skimping on space and safety, to squeeze more asses on the plan.

If they charged people by the pound to fly, then they would just make up the extra weight they know historically flies just fine. They'll make up the lost weight with freight. You up there in you dinky little baby booster chair thinking the plane is safer for it, while execs back at the office is pushing the envelope to see how much extra weight they can get away with before a plane goes down. Maybe your plane.

22   Y   2016 Oct 5, 1:48pm  

Butchers charge for meat by the pound.
Mid level dope dealers charge for weed by the pound.
English fucks charge everything by the pound.
wen r we goin metric???

23   epitaph   2016 Oct 5, 1:54pm  

Should obese people be charged more at Fresh Choice?

Like a supersize upcharge like at McD's.

24   Tenpoundbass   2016 Oct 5, 1:56pm  

This is why we need competition and government must never ever decide winners and losers ever again. Every company is big enough to fail.
Had there been competition and free markets, there would be 5 times more airlines and they would have lazy boy recliners and state of the art hifi and hd tv in every seat quadrant. Every seat would be damn near first class. Tickets might even cost slightly more than they do now, but there would be value there. Something that has been missing because the Investors have to soak up any value to any product that our markets have produced in the last 15 years. It's sickening. These planes should be pimped out in features not the piss poor miserable experience that they are. Because in 2001, Bush convinced us that the marshal law oppressive police state of the Israeli airports was a better system. It was better for us to cower and harass everyone NOT wearing a hijab than to pester the people that look like they need pestering.
Then if that weren't enough they put you in time out on a cramped plane if you mutter even just ONE word about it, they'll hog tie you and sell the scoop to TMZ.

Good by petty world hello Great America President Trump.

25   Strategist   2016 Oct 5, 2:28pm  

Ironman says

When was the last time you bought potato salad or ground beef NOT by the pound

or gas by the gallon

or beer in 12 oz cans

or natural gas by the cubic foot

or electric by the KW

or data on your cell phone by the GB

or wire by the foot

and

even the Captains user name is by the pound....Ten pound bass.

26   Blurtman   2016 Oct 5, 2:29pm  

It's really the width of the person, not necessarily their weight, although they are related.

27   turtledove   2016 Oct 5, 2:48pm  

Blurtman says

It's really the width of the person, not necessarily their weight, although they are related.

Even better! A quick, 3-day fast, and I'm getting child pricing!

28   Tenpoundbass   2016 Oct 5, 3:59pm  

Ironman says

Tons of other things get metered and sold by exact measurements, why shouldn't airline seats be sold by the pound?

That's still unfair because taller people still weigh less than short people.
And your weight has absolutely nothing to do with whether the plane is going to take off or not.
I've been on flights with 6 people, perhaps it should be the cost of the fuel, divided by the number of people actually flying. Then prorated by the pound you fools.

Strategist says

Ironman says

When was the last time you bought potato salad or ground beef NOT by the pound


or gas by the gallon


or beer in 12 oz cans


or natural gas by the cubic foot


or electric by the KW


or data on your cell phone by the GB


or wire by the foot

and

even the Captains user name is by the pound....Ten pound bass.

I can't argue that!

29   Tenpoundbass   2016 Oct 5, 4:00pm  

Perhaps buses should charge by the weight, and Disney tickets and what about movie theatres?

30   FortWayne   2016 Oct 5, 5:30pm  

Capitalism, make bigger seats so large people don't spill over to a seat near you.

31   zzyzzx   2016 Oct 5, 6:16pm  

FortWayne says

Capitalism, make bigger seats so large people don't spill over to a seat near you.

Aren't first class seats bigger?

32   bob2356   2016 Oct 5, 6:19pm  

Why do I have the feeling TBP has been supersized?

33   Mrs Wonderful   2016 Oct 5, 6:28pm  

Daddy's planes have barca loungers for everybody.
I never heard of these seat problems.

34   Strategist   2016 Oct 5, 6:50pm  

zzyzzx is deplorable says

FortWayne says

Capitalism, make bigger seats so large people don't spill over to a seat near you.

Aren't first class seats bigger?

Yup. Capitalism works. If capitalism wants to shame fat people, then so be it.

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