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Note the similarity in accusations against Assange and Trump

By someone else following x   2016 Oct 16, 8:18pm 2,814 views   35 comments   watch   nsfw   quote     share    


Not cooperating with Hillary seems to result in unfounded sexual assault allegations.

Just sayin.

#politics #hillary

1   ThreeBays   ignore (0)   2016 Oct 16, 8:38pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

You're doing this clickbait thing wrong.

2   anonymous   ignore (null)   2016 Oct 16, 9:14pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says

Not cooperating with Hillary seems to result in unfounded sexual assault allegations.

it's the default response of the psycho-incompetent female leader.

well, at least the misogyny accusation. then it progressively escalates until the desired outcome is reached: my opponent is disqualified.

3   someone else   ignore (0)   2016 Oct 16, 9:48pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

2804 says

FFS he's on tape claiming the exact behavior he's accused of. Patrick you are so biased it makes you stupid?

Mell put it better than I could, here:

https://patrick.net/?p=1297256&c=1335145#comment-1335145

That has nothing to do with sexual assault as nowhere in the tape he said they resisted (correct me if there's a version that proves otherwise), but rather 'they let you do that'. He bragged about the very real effect that when you're a popular male celebrity in your best years you can sleep with women left and right instantaneously without any dating and courtship.

4   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2016 Oct 17, 4:57am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

2804 says

FFS he's on tape claiming the exact behavior he's accused of. Patrick you are so biased it makes you stupid?

Typical feminazi crap. Pray Trump wins-if only to put this fiendish leftie deranged mindset to rest. Then others will rise up and we may be beyond this stupid era of male slavery.

5   Rashomon   ignore (1)   2016 Oct 17, 5:05am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

lostand confused says

2804 says

FFS he's on tape claiming the exact behavior he's accused of. Patrick you are so biased it makes you stupid?

Typical feminazi crap.

Eh? How the fuck is that 'typical feminazi crap?' He said what he said. Even you pathological Trump apologists can't deny that, though of course you come up with excuse after excuse, deflection after deflection.

6   Rashomon   ignore (1)   2016 Oct 17, 5:10am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

rando says

Mell put it better than I could, here:

https://patrick.net/?p=1297256&c=1335145#comment-1335145

That has nothing to do with sexual assault as nowhere in the tape he said they resisted (correct me if there's a version that proves otherwise), but rather 'they let you do that'. He bragged about the very real effect that when you're a popular male celebrity in your best years you can sleep with women left and right instantaneously without any dating and courtship.

It sounds unwanted from the women who came forward. Does him walking into the dressing room of Miss Teen USA unannounced also fall into this apologist line? And since when has grabbing women by the pussy (uninvited) been the modus operandi of celebs? There's no excuse for what he said. It was pathetic for anyone of any age to say let alone a 59 year-old to a member of the media. If this is his public face, then FFS, what do you imagine he's like in private?

7   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2016 Oct 17, 5:27am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Rashomon says

Eh? How the fuck is that 'typical feminazi crap?' He said what he said. Even you pathological Trump apologists can't deny that, though of course you come up with excuse after excuse, deflection after deflection

Feminazi freaks. He has denied all and if he wasn't running for office-he would sue. There has been many rebuttals from witnesses, cousins etc.
meanwhile your hero laughed at getting of the rapist of a 12 year old and Bill has never denied raping any of his accusers-who Hillary viciously attacked.

So according to you freaks as long as you toe the party line-you are free to rape, pillage, steal, throw firebombs-America the Saudi Arabia for men. Feminazi freaks.

8   Rashomon   ignore (1)   2016 Oct 17, 5:44am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

lostand confused says

Feminazi freaks. He has denied all and if he wasn't running for office-he would sue. There has been many rebuttals from witnesses, cousins etc.

meanwhile your hero laughed at getting of the rapist of a 12 year old and Bill has never denied raping any of his accusers-who Hillary viciously attacked.

So according to you freaks as long as you toe the party line-you are free to rape, pillage, steal, throw firebombs-America the Saudi Arabia for men. Feminazi freaks.

You Trump fanatics aren't half full of incoherent nonsense. You're all over anything that attacks Clinton, but God forbid you raise your arms and admit your bullshitting demagogue might have done something inappropriate.

9   Tenpoundbass   ignore (13)   2016 Oct 17, 5:58am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

ThreeBays says

You're doing this clickbait thing wrong.

It's not Clickbait Uma!

10   BlueSardine   ignore (4)   2016 Oct 17, 5:59am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FIFY...
Rashomon says

It sounds unwanted like instant fame and a possible cash cow from the documented liberal women who came forward decades after the supposed event 3 weeks before a national election.

11   Rashomon   ignore (1)   2016 Oct 17, 6:46am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Ranina ranina says

It sounds unwanted like instant fame and a possible cash cow from the documented liberal women who came forward decades after the supposed event 3 weeks before a national election.

Sure, sure. Or, you know, these women could be telling the truth about a man who has already stated very clearly his views towards women.

12   anonymous   ignore (null)   2016 Oct 17, 6:47am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I, for one, was surprised by the strategy the democrats deployed against the republican candidate this year. He's a big mean RACIST! Who would have ever seen that coming ?

13   BlueSardine   ignore (4)   2016 Oct 17, 6:53am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Sure, sure.
All circumstantial.
Conveniently timed.
But your viewpoint is understandable since you've never experienced locker room braggadocio.
If the women came forth any time other than now, they would be more believable...

Rashomon says

Sure, sure. Or, you know, these women could be telling the truth about a man who has already stated very clearly his views towards women.

14   Rashomon   ignore (1)   2016 Oct 17, 7:03am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Ranina ranina says

But your viewpoint is understandable since you've never experienced locker room braggadocio.

Yeah, except I played rugby for more than 20 years of my life, so I'm one of the few on here that actually knows what he said isn't the kind of thing people say in a locker room and is just yet more pathetic apologist nonsense from the Trump excuse makers on here.

Ranina ranina says

Conveniently timed.

Err, they came forward after the release of his comments. You can argue that the release was conveniently timed, but the women coming forward was simply a product of that. But hey, it's interesting how you lot dismiss the claims of all these women and believe the man who actually said that's how he behaved.

Ranina ranina says

If the women came forth any time other than now, they would be more believable...

Why? This is how it often works. Look at all the people that came forward about the 70s UK celebs in recent years.

15   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2016 Oct 17, 8:54am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Donal trump denies this-some witnesses have come forward disputing these venets.
Clinton never denied allegations and his wife-the current nominee-was the pitbull savaging his victims. Clinton has never denied he is a rapist and his wife has never denied attacking the rape victims-she even laughs at getting off a rapist who raped a 12 year old so brutally-that she had to have her vagina stitched and could not have children.

What kind of monster laughs at getting off a rapist who raped a 12 year old?

16   Blurtman   ignore (1)   2016 Oct 17, 9:11am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Men enjoy beautiful women. It is not a crime. Men talk about fucking beautiful women. It is not a crime. it is a fact that if you are viewed to be a desirable man, for example, if you are viewed to be a meal ticket, women will grant you favors not available to men who are viewed as less desirable. It is a fact that women will engage in compromising behavior to advance their careers, e.g., Hillary.

17   Rashomon   ignore (1)   2016 Oct 17, 9:12am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

lostand confused says

Donal trump denies this-some witnesses have come forward disputing these venets.

What a shock. And what witnesses have come forward? A man who recalls exactly what happened during an entire flight 30 years ago because he was sitting near them on a plane? A cousin who didn't witness anything but obviously has an issue with their relative? What else?
lostand confused says

What kind of monster laughs at getting off a rapist who raped a 12 year old?

Yet more right wing filtered 'facts' about Clinton. You get that from Trump by any chance? Have you actually read the details/listened to the tape of what she said? It would seem not.

18   anonymous   ignore (null)   2016 Oct 17, 9:42am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Wow, OP recieved six dislikes for merely creating the thread!

The greatest form of mind control, is self censorship of ideas. The guppies doing the bidding of The State, truly swallowed the hook, line, and sinker!

19   turtledove   ignore (0)   2016 Oct 17, 10:08am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

First, we live in a time where a person just needs to say she was sexually assaulted. Hillary is using what works best. When you say it, everyone looks at the guy as if there is something wrong with him. Or there must be something wrong with him. Why would anyone make up something so awful if it weren't true? Why would a person want to put her private sex life out there for everyone to discuss and analyze? If there is a grain of truth to what she is saying, don't we have a responsibility to protect the public from this potential sexual predator? Therefore, we must assume that there's some truth to it.

That's why.

You just have to look at child custody cases. Men are accused of inappropriate behavior against the children all the time. Most of the time it's groundless, but the courts have to assume the worst in order to keep the kids safe. It's highly effective in separating him from his children and, at least temporarily, granting sole custody (and maximal child support) to the mother. Then, once she has sole custody, she withdraws the complaint, and future attempts to adjust custody become about whether it's in the best interest of the children to disrupt the current arrangement.

20   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2016 Oct 17, 10:21am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Rashomon says

Yet more right wing filtered 'facts' about Clinton. You get that from Trump by any chance? Have you actually read the details/listened to the tape of what she said? It would seem not.

The filter is in your brain. Who laughs while describing about the rapist they freed?? Oh I asked him to take a lie detector and he passed-which forever destroyed my beleif in lie detectors-Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!! yes this about a 12 yr old who was raped so bad and needed stitches in her vagina and never could have children. That is how normal people act when they get off a child rapist. The lefts are absolutely loony. Child rape is a joke to them.

21   Rashomon   ignore (1)   2016 Oct 17, 10:25am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

lostand confused says

The filter is in your brain. Who laughs while describing about the rapist they freed?? Oh I asked him to take a lie detector and he passed-which forever destroyed my beleif in lie detectors-Hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!! yes this about a 12 yr old who was raped so bad and needed stitches in her vagina and never could have children. That is how normal people act. The lefts are absolutely loony. Child rape is a joke to them.

There's nothing remotely strange about laughing at the absurdity of the system. What is absurd is how you lapped up the lies that Trump peddled about this.

22   Rashomon   ignore (1)   2016 Oct 17, 10:29am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

turtledove is deplorable says

First, we live in a time where a person just needs to say she was sexually assaulted. Hillary is using what works best. When you say it, everyone looks at the guy as if there is something wrong with him. Or there must be something wrong with him. Why would anyone make up something so awful if it weren't true? Why would a person want to put her private sex life out there for everyone to discuss and analyze? If there is a grain of truth to what she is saying, don't we have a responsibility to protect the public from this potential sexual predator? Therefore, we must assume that there's some truth to it.

Why not? If it's one or two, you need to tread carefully. When it reaches double figures in quick time on the back of someone openly boasting about committing sexual assault, then perhaps you might start viewing it as not unreasonable to be wondering about the accused.

23   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2016 Oct 17, 10:30am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Rashomon says

There's nothing remotely strange about laughing at the absurdity of the system. What is absurd is how you lapped up the lies that Trump peddled about thi

This was long before Trump. I see-no wonder you are a leftie and why Hilalry is ahead. it is perfectly normal to laugh at getting off a child rapist .You people are sick in the head if you think that is ok.

He raped her so bad that they had to stitch up her vagina and she could never have kids-she was all of 12 years old riding her bike. The normal human reaction would be to feel bad -not laugh.

24   Tampajoe   ignore (0)   2016 Oct 17, 10:41am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Just fyi--Clinton didn't get a child rapist "off". She did her job which was to defend her client and was able to negotiate a deal for him where he pled guilty.

It's hard to take you guys seriously when it's lie after lie.

25   Rashomon   ignore (1)   2016 Oct 17, 10:44am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

lostand confused says

This was long before Trump. I see-no wonder you are a leftie and why Hilalry is ahead. it is perfectly normal to laugh at getting off a child rapist .You people are sick in the head if you think that is ok.

He raped her so bad that they had to stitch up her vagina and she could never have kids-she was all of 12 years old riding her bike. The normal human reaction would be to feel bad -not laugh.

Again, what are you talking about? Trump is the one who brought her front and center - a supporter paying her $2500 to appear. She also set up a gofundme site that listed blatant lies about the case and which were then altered on the back of a WaPo fact checking article.

Clinton did not laugh at the girl getting raped or getting a plea bargain for the rapist, which is clearly what you and Trump were and are still trying to imply. The tapes make it clear what she laughed about and it isn't what you claim. Why is it so seemingly impossible for some of you not to accept obvious facts? Instead, you create a fantasy anti-Clinton scenario - one that can easily be refuted by simple fact-checking, but which seemingly doesn't matter in the post-fact world you and your ilk seem to inhabit.

26   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (3)   2016 Oct 17, 11:03am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Hillary did her job as a Public Defender.

HOWEVER, her discussion of the case was an ethical violation.
https://popehat.com/2016/10/10/hillary-clinton-the-sixth-amendment-and-legal-ethics/

27   Rew   ignore (0)   2016 Oct 17, 11:06am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

turtledove is deplorable says

First, we live in a time where a person just needs to say she was sexually assaulted.

For us to draw up sides on the issue? Yes. Human nature.

turtledove is deplorable says

When you say it, everyone looks at the guy as if there is something wrong with him.

It's not very innocent until proven guilty for either party. I agree. It seems naturally unavoidable that sides are chosen. People typically are unable to remain nuetral.

So one camp immediately will suspect he did do it. This has to do with innate spectrum of force and power imbalance of male on female sexual attacks, and also our firmly established patriarchal expectation that males protect females. This reversal is such an affront that we are typically more able to be neutral on charges of murder than we can when sex allegation are involved. The guilty before innocent tendency, against the male, is even more pronounced if the accused has a history of other questionable actions or words around women.

The other camp will suspect the female accuser is a liar. You will see the familiar beliefs that the female accusers are a blend of ulterior motives: in it for money, fame/notoriety, some other sort of revenge, regret the morning after, and usually a good dash of slut shaming.

So, are you asking us to believe Trump is innocent before proven guilty? Or are you asking us to completely disregard the accusations as all politically motivated lies (like the OP suggested)? Which ever it is, it has to be balanced against the backdrop of:

- Trump's words and demeanor toward women in general
- 10 individual sexual misconduct/assault allegations
- 2 individual rape allegations

errc says

Wow, OP recieved six dislikes for merely creating the thread!

The greatest form of mind control, is self censorship of ideas. The guppies doing the bidding of The State, truly swallowed the hook, line, and sinker!

See above. The instant dislikes are a response to OP's insinuation that sex allegations are being used as a political weapon.

If Assange was innocent, one would think he could find a means to have his day in court. Right? Instead he will wait it out to 2020 when the remaining allegations hit their statue of limitations date. He would also put his head in the noose for espionage and treason from several governments though. Yes yes.

I believe in my right to privacy, and my government's right to the same, with regards to defense. Assange is no folk hero of mine. When he releases something leaked and whistleblower based on Trump, then I'll believe again he is a neutral source standing up for the freedom of information everywhere. Until then, he is just another attack machine with biased motives of his own.

28   marcus   ignore (7)   2016 Oct 17, 11:07am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I would be the first to admit that the whole sexual assault claim is more about hurting Trump politically than it is about a terrible crime he committed.

Substitute the words *email scandal* for *sexual assault claim* and *Clinton* for *Trump* and it's equally true.

29   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (3)   2016 Oct 17, 11:14am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Rew says

I believe in my right to privacy, and my government's right to the same, with regards to defense. Assange is no folk hero of mine. When he releases something leaked and whistleblower based on Trump, then I'll believe again he is a neutral source standing up for the freedom of information everywhere. Until then, he is just another attack machine with biased motives of his own.

So a decade of releasing info on Bush's Iraq and Afghan wars, Collateral Muder, Gitmo Abuses, Scientology, UN Confidential Reports, NSA-German Spying, Bank Julius Baer's tax dodging assistance to Wealthy Individuals, secret TPP and TIPP and TiSA texts, etc. --- all of this was worthless?

Gimme a break.

https://wikileaks.org/-Leaks-.html

2016, the year Assange went from being a hero to a villain, for leaking Corporate Clinton's DNC and Aides' emails.

30   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2016 Oct 17, 11:16am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Rashomon says

Again, what are you talking about? Trump is the one who brought her front and center - a supporter paying her $2500 to appear. She also set up a gofundme site that listed blatant lies about the case and which were then altered on the back of a WaPo fact checking article.

Clinton did not laugh at the girl getting raped or getting a plea bargain for the rapist, which is clearly what you and Trump were and are still trying to imply. The tapes make it clear what she laughed about and it isn't what you claim. Why is it so seemingly impossible for some of you not to accept obvious facts? Instead, you create a fantasy anti-Clinton scenario - one that can easily be refuted by simple fact-checking, but which seemingly doesn't matter in the post-fact world you and your ilk seem to inhabit.

Blah, blah, blah. No decent human being laughs while describing those events. Only people with no souls do. I gotoff a child rapist-hahaha!!!

if a normal human being is talking, they would show contrition or lament the state of the legal system that allowed this to happen-not laugh.

She was doing her job-fine-but then she choose to laugh about it in an interview-that shows who she is-oh now looks liek she tried to bribe the FBI-LOL!

31   anonymous   ignore (null)   2016 Oct 17, 11:17am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

If Assange was innocent, one would think he could find a means to have his day in court. Right?

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Wrong. How often do the courts destroy the falsely accused? How often do the falsely accused, are vindicated by the court?

The level of dishonesty found in the words of Clinton supporters, makes me question if you's are doing it on purpose, or for that matter, if you even realize that you're doing it. Either way, it's very off putting

32   anonymous   ignore (null)   2016 Oct 17, 11:20am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Thunderlips Russian Agent 0069 says

Rew says

I believe in my right to privacy, and my government's right to the same, with regards to defense. Assange is no folk hero of mine. When he releases something leaked and whistleblower based on Trump, then I'll believe again he is a neutral source standing up for the freedom of information everywhere. Until then, he is just another attack machine with biased motives of his own.

So a decade of releasing info on Bush's Iraq and Afghan wars, Collateral Muder, Gitmo Abuses, Scientology, UN Confidential Reports, NSA-German Spying, Bank Julius Baer's tax dodging assistance to Wealthy Individuals, secret TPP and TIPP and TiSA texts, etc. --- all of this was worthless?

Gimme a break.

https://wikileaks.org/-Leaks-.html

2016, the year Assange went from being a hero to a villain, fo...

Bizarro World

33   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   ignore (2)   2016 Oct 17, 11:29am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Trump is disputing the accounts of all of the women that are accusing him. So, it is a he said / group of women said. His reputation is going to come out bloodied in that scenario, especially when he indicated on tape that he did about what he is being accused of. Trump has framed this as if all of the women are part of a political conspiracy or they are all lying for personal motivation or something. Personally, I don't really find either of those very plausible.

The issue that I have is the definition of sexual assault. Putting you hands on a woman and going in for a kiss is how the vast majority of relationships start. If a woman pushes you away or just doesn't kiss back, you move along. So, if Trump had said, yes, I've kissed many women. If they tell me they don't want it, I stop and move along, that would be one thing. Then, if people want to speak out and have a discussion on what is the appropriate way to make sexual advances, then fine. Unfortunately, Trump is lying his ass off with the deny, deny, deny strategy, so the focus of the discussion is on who to believe. Trump loses, b/c he comes off looking like a creeper/serial sexual assaulter, and the rest of us lose, b/c the real issue is not addressed in any way.

34   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2016 Oct 17, 11:30am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Clinton never disputed that he rapes women. Hilalry never disputed she savages Bill's victims like a pitbull.

35   Tenpoundbass   ignore (13)   2016 Oct 17, 11:35am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

They posses a strong penchant for revenge, never atonement for anything.


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