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Patrick.net not on list of Russian propaganda outlets

By justme following x   2016 Nov 25, 7:05pm 3,898 views   16 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


Much has been said about the recently published list of purported Russian propaganda outlets. The list contains scores of US (and some Russian) sites, including such luminaries as

nakedcaplitalism.com
oftowminds.com
ronpaulinstitute.org
davidstockmanscontracorner.com
zerohedge.com
pravda.ru
sputnik.ru

Now, I am more than a little disappointed that Patrick.Net is not on the list. So sad! Thunderlips, KGB is going to dock your pay, and myself I have not seen any of the promised riches from the propaganda puppetmasters. What can we do? People really need to step up their un-american activities.

http://www.propornot.com/p/the-list.html?m=1

#politics #humor #butseriously

1   Gary Anderson   ignore (0)   2016 Nov 25, 7:28pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Can't say Zero Hedge should be on that list. Most of the others are also economics sites. And besides, you do know that Trump is going to have a hard time pleasing Israel and Putin at the same time. The issue is Iran. Somebody is going to be furious with Trump on that one.

2   Ceffer   ignore (1)   2016 Nov 25, 7:55pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Mighty Trumpligula will work out a way to ass fuck both Russia and Israel. It is the shining path of his deified assholiness.

3   someone else   ignore (0)   2016 Nov 26, 11:10am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Проклятье, наш коварный план был сорван!

4   jazz_music   ignore (2)   2016 Nov 26, 5:09pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Gary Anderson says

Can't say Zero Hedge should be on that list.

zerohedge.com doesn't impress me.

5   justme   ignore (1)   2016 Nov 26, 5:46pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Patrick says

Проклятье, наш коварный план был сорван!

Hell, our cunning plan was foiled! (Google translate)

6   TwoScoopsPlissken   ignore (2)   2016 Nov 26, 7:20pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

justme says

Thunderlips, KGB is going to dock your pay, and myself I have not seen any of the promised riches from the propaganda puppetmasters.

Shit, you know what a tough ass Putin is? Last time he called me into his office for slacking off, he made me feel like I was 5 years old and busted for painting the walls with my mom's nail polish.

Naked Capitalism of Yves Smith made the naughty list too, I heard. StopFake is a site that loves Nazis, when they help neoliberals keep power. They're really good at ignoring the attacks on Hassidim and Gays by the pro-Poroshenko National Guard. Surprised they don't love on the Syrian Committee on Human Rights (or whatever the fuck it's called) , that one man operation in England funded by European Intel and ran out of the guy's living room.

The whole WaPo article is a poorly sourced a joke, apparently many other media outlets rejected the story, but Bezos so hates the Trump and so loves his corporate inversions and tax heavens, he probably said "Run It".

Here is The Intercept's Take on it:
https://theintercept.com/2016/11/26/washington-post-disgracefully-promotes-a-mccarthyite-blacklist-from-a-new-hidden-and-very-shady-group/

Who is doing the research over at PropOrNot?

No fucking clue who these people are. For an organization determined to "out" Russian Agents, they are very secretive about who they are. But no doubt some Kagans and Boot types, and other deadender neocons are involved.

Who exactly is behind PropOrNot, where it gets its funding and whether or not it is tied to any governments is a complete mystery. The Intercept also sent inquiries to the Post’s Craig Timberg asking these questions, and asking whether he thinks it is fair to label left-wing news sites like Truthout “Russian propaganda outlets.” Timberg replied: “I’m sorry, I can’t comment about stories I’ve written for the Post.”

As is so often the case, journalists – who constantly demand transparency from everyone else – refuse to provide even the most basic levels for themselves. When subjected to scrutiny, they reflexively adopt the language of the most secrecy-happy national security agencies: we do not comment on what we do.

Timberg’s piece on the supposed ubiquity of Russian propaganda is misleading in several other ways. The other primary “expert” upon which the article relies is Clint Watts, a fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute, a pro-Western think tank whose board of advisors includes neoconservative figures like infamous orientalist scholar Bernard Lewis and pro-imperialist Robert D. Kaplan, the latter of whom served on the U.S. government’s Defense Policy Board.

What the Post does not mention in its report is that Watts, one of the specialists it relies on for its claims, previously worked as an FBI special agent on a Joint Terrorism Task Force and as the executive officer of the U.S. Military Academy’s Combating Terrorism Center. As Fortune’s Ingram wrote of the group, it is “a conservative think tank funded and staffed by proponents of the Cold War between the U.S. and Russia.”

What's funny is that the media is doubling down and not realizing that everything THEY write is fact checked, and the bias now is so unbelievably blatant and there are so many foreign media outlets, from the Straits Times to Jerusalem Post to thelocal.se (or .whatever), you can get other place's mainstream media that disagrees with the Neoliberal Oligarch's personal bullhorns.

7   TwoScoopsPlissken   ignore (2)   2016 Nov 26, 7:26pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

BTW,surefire way to troll a Fake News Mainstream 'contributor' journalist. Say "Tom Johnson, a blogger for CNN..." or "Mary Smith, a freelancer who is often published by HuffPo."

"I'm a journalist DERP DERP DERP!!!"

8   someone else   ignore (0)   2016 Nov 26, 8:44pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Hmmm, how can Patrick.net get on one of those lists of subversive Russian-controlled sites and benefit from the free advertising?

9   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (3)   2016 Nov 26, 9:22pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Patrick says

Hmmm, how can Patrick.net get on one of those lists of subversive Russian-controlled sites and benefit from the free advertising?

You might want to ask those who believe Fidel Castro was a great and important person.

10   smaulgld   ignore (1)   2016 Nov 27, 5:14am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Sad what the paper of Woodward and Bernstein has become. To cite "prop or not" as an expert in identifying Russian propaganda is ridiculous. No independent verification of who prop or not is and no independent review of the sites on the list. Some of them may be crap or "fake" but to insist that all of them are working for the Russians is laughable- as is the Washington post

11   TwoScoopsPlissken   ignore (2)   2016 Nov 27, 7:52am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

smaulgld says

Sad what the paper of Woodward and Bernstein has become.

It was always that way.

Watergate was sour grapes for Mark "Deep Throat" Felt being passed over at the FBI - Nixon didn't want somebody considered a loyalist and close the late Crossdressing Canuck, in charge of the Agency.

Felt gave Woodward, former ONI which is why Felt chose him, all the info on the break-in and CREEP.

12   Robert Sproul   ignore (0)   2016 Nov 27, 8:22am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Homie CHS responded to his inclusion here:
“I invite anyone to search my 3,600-page archive of published material over the past decade and identify a single pro-Russia or pro-Russian foreign policy entry.”

“My "crime" is a simple one: challenging the ruling elite's narrative. Labeling all dissent "enemy propaganda" is of course the classic first phase of state-sponsored propaganda and the favorite tool of well-paid illiberal apologists for an illiberal regime.”

“This is what The Washington Post is pushing: a parasitic, predatory, exploitive, ruinously corrupt and venal ruling class and its army of apologists/lackeys/factotums.”

“The fundamental source of the Post's hysterical accusations is the ruling elite has lost control of the narrative. This is the source of the mainstream media's angst-tinged hysteria and frantic efforts to marginalize and discredit any dissenting narratives that undermine or question the power of a corrupted, self-serving ruling elite that has failed the nation and its citizens.”

“The delicious irony of The Washington Post's hysterical campaign to smear dissenters as tools of Russian propaganda is that it only serves to discredit the Post itself.’
http://www.oftwominds.com/blognov16/useful-idiots11-16.html

13   HEY YOU   ignore (7)   2016 Nov 27, 8:53am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Russia is smarter than to deal with patnet dummies!

Patrick says

Hmmm, how can Patrick.net get on one of those lists of subversive Russian-controlled sites and benefit from the free advertising?

Everyone could post in Russian.
How does one say "Republic & Democrat voters are idiots." in Russian?

14   NuttBoxer   ignore (2)   2016 Dec 1, 11:43am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

In looking back at our failure not making this list, I think it's important to keep in mind Russia's distaste for rancid clams.

15   justme   ignore (1)   2016 Dec 5, 10:55pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Yves Smith of nakedcapitalism.com fame has taken it upon herself to secure the internet domain name propornot.ORG, and has posted a scathing "review" of that other site propornot.COM there. Yves has expressed sympathy for websites that through no fault of their own have been callously ignored by the propornot(.COM) people, and thus left off their red scare master list. I think patrick.net may proudly say to be one of the victims of this callous disregard of the quality work we do over here.

Joe Vlad says "check it out":

http://www.propornot.org

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/12/we-launch-propornot-org-to-identify-inept-propagandists-and-school-the-washington-post.html

16   HEY YOU   ignore (7)   2016 Dec 6, 12:11am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

justme says

People really need to step up their un-american activities.

125,000,000 voted R & D,how much more does it take to destroy this country?





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