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The actual pussy-grab comment: "They let you do it."


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2017 Jan 20, 11:55am   20,932 views  79 comments

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Today I had this conversation:

Ex-boss: Trump said he could assault women and they couldn't do anything about it.
Me: No, that's not true. Trump said women would consent to whatever advances he makes, because he's rich and famous.
Ex-boss: No, Trump said "they couldn't do anything about it".
Me: Let me look up the quote.

So here it is:

“I moved on her, and I failed. I’ll admit it,” Trump is heard saying.

“Whoa,” another voice said.

“I did try and f--- her. She was married,” Trump says.

Trump continues: “And I moved on her very heavily. In fact, I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture. I said, ‘I’ll show you where they have some nice furniture.’”

“I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn’t get there. And she was married,” Trump says. “Then all of a sudden I see her, she’s now got the big phony tits and everything. She’s totally changed her look.”

At that point in the audio, Trump and Bush appear to notice Arianne Zucker, the actress who is waiting to escort them into the soap-opera set.

“Your girl’s hot as s---, in the purple,” says Bush.

“Whoa!” Trump says. “Whoa!”

“I’ve got to use some Tic Tacs, just in case I start kissing her,” Trump says. “You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait.”

“And when you’re a star, they let you do it,” Trump says. “You can do anything.”

“Whatever you want,” says another voice, apparently Bush’s.

“Grab them by the p---y,” Trump says. “You can do anything.”

Note that he said they let you do it. This means he says that they consent if you are a star.

It is a lie to say that Trump said "they can't do anything about it". That would be a false quote and totally changes the meaning to imply no consent.

#trump #politics

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1   Ceffer   2017 Jan 20, 12:01pm  

It makes perfect sense. If you get a good handhold, they can't get away.

2   Tenpoundbass   2017 Jan 20, 12:04pm  

If Brad Pitt had said that ten years ago, he would have gotten 10 back to back box office hits.
On top of the ten he did.

People that try to pretend they were offended by Trump's private talk aren't being honest with themselves.

Not unless they are some prude that has a problem with 90% of pop culture and the non traditional way the media presents the news.
I mean it wouldn't be out of character today for Walter Contrite to break out in an Ebonics Sex and Violent themed rap song while reporting the inauguration.
Those same people would gush if the guy won a daytime Emmy Award for it.

3   Blurtman   2017 Jan 20, 12:05pm  

An inconvenient truth. While not at all the same as being in Trump's league, a good friend of mine had women crawling all over him when he was in med school. He had no trouble getting laid on the first date, even. Meal ticket!

4   Tenpoundbass   2017 Jan 20, 12:26pm  

Tim Aurora says

And there have been substantiated claims that Trump moved on them without consent, so let us not spin it the other way.

No there has NOT been.

In fact the woman on the plan withdrew her testimony after the other two passengers on that jet in the 70's disputed her claim.
There were two things wrong with her testimony. First the type of plane they were flying had like Train Cabin style seating with two Seats facing two other seats.
The four people there including Trump were engaged in conversation the whole time. The guy that disputed her claims said it was a celebrity meeting highlight of his life, he would have remembered groping. Also there is no Arm lift on those seats, they were like Lazy Boy recliners, with a 8 inches of amenities between the two seats. Pull out tray, ashtray(smoking back then) and any electronic controls.

So that was totally blown out of the water. The Strung out junkie admitted she was put up to the rape claim.

The only thing was Trump talking smack to a Guy that was baiting him with inappropriate trash talk.

If you noticed after they got off of the bus, Trump put himself between the girl and Bush.

5   Ceffer   2017 Jan 20, 12:32pm  

All you Trump Blanket Exonerators can quit your bitchin' 'n twitchin', because ALL! PUSSY! ARE! BELONG! TO! TRUMP! now.

6   Blurtman   2017 Jan 20, 12:36pm  

Tenpoundbass says

The only thing was Trump talking smack to a Guy that was baiting him with inappropriate trash talk

Absolutely. But low-bandwidth types continue to repeat the lie.

7   indigenous   2017 Jan 20, 12:48pm  

Patrick says

It is a lie to say that Trump said "they can't do anything about it". That would be a false quote and totally changes the meaning to imply no consent.

Pictures do not lie

8   HEY YOU   2017 Jan 20, 12:50pm  

“Grab them by the p---y,” Trump says.
Surely I can find a way to prove he didn't say it or it had a meaning I don't understand.

9   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Jan 20, 2:40pm  

It could go either way. "They let you do it" could mean that they won't do anything about it because they know it will cause more trouble than it's worth. Or it could mean that they consented to it.

My take is this: Most men flirt and look for the cues that the woman is into them. If they get the right cues, they make a move. Occasionally, they misread things and get turned down. Some men are more risk averse in this process than others. Trump was saying that he doesn't even go through this process. He just assumes that the answer will be yes and makes his move and he does it aggressively (I'm guessing that's what "move on her like a bitch" means). If someone goes around doing that, it's going to feel like assault to many women, because they will know that they did absolutely nothing to insinuate interest before he pressed his old wrinkled massive greasy flesh onto them. He doesn't care how it makes them feel, because they are not going to be willing and able to take him down in court. But this is not really the big issue against Trump. That's probably pretty normal for a guy of his age in his position.

The big issue is that he is the most dishonest and unqualified person imaginable for the job. I hate listening to a dishonest sales-person. It's my least favorite activity on this planet, and I make sure to be terribly insulting to anybody who does this to my face. This idiot does it every time he speaks in public. He is a terrible joke of a President and now the joke is on the whole country. The only thing left to do is laugh and hope the damage isn't too severe.

10   Dan8267   2017 Jan 20, 3:30pm  

Patrick says

Other person: Trump said he could assault women and they couldn't do anything about it.

Me: No, that's not true. Trump said women would consent to whatever advances he makes, because he's famous.

Clearly you are right about what Trump said and the other person is grossly misrepresenting Trump, who by the way is a complete asshole, but he's not guilty of saying he could sexually assault a woman and get away with it.

More importantly, Trump is right that women do consent to sexual advances by famous people precisely because they are famous. As Henry Kissinger said, "power is the greatest aphrodisiac". As biologists say, women use the strategy of mate preselection.

The problem isn't Trump. The problem is women using shit-poor algorithms for choosing mates. These algorithms worked in the Stone Age. They suck in the Information Age. Women following these algorithms end up 35, single, and looking for any man to knock them up before their biological clock ticks its last tick.

Much of human instinct is obsolete and counter-productive. Men who behave in ways that were successful in the Stone Age end up in prison. Women who behave in ways that were successful in the Stone Age end up as impoverished single mothers.

Stop going on instinct, and start using frontal lobe thinking. It works a lot better in the modern world.

11   HEY YOU   2017 Jan 20, 3:37pm  

BOYCOTTING ALL Republicans won't cause Wingnut butthurt.
It will make their assholes bleed!

LAY there & BLEED!

12   Shaman   2017 Jan 20, 4:14pm  

Libbies are just jealous that they never get grabbed by billionaires.

13   Shaman   2017 Jan 20, 4:24pm  

I've figured it out. Leftists used the fuck out of the supposed threat Trump posed to minorities and gays because the ingrained (often irrational) fear in those people would cause them to abandon rationality and believe a lie because they were afraid it was true. In fact, they are so sure that this lie is true, that they will probably be repeating it long after Trump has finished his presidency. It's an evil sort of genius at work, making people look for justification of the lie anywhere at all and ignoring all facts that contradict it.
So for the special snowflakes who insist on believing Trump is out to get them, anything he does no matter how innocuous or supportive of their minority group, will be seen as an attack.

First rule of lying: make them believe it because they want it to be true or because they're afraid it is true.

14   Heraclitusstudent   2017 Jan 20, 4:32pm  

YesYNot says

It could go either way. "They let you do it" could mean that they won't do anything about it because they know it will cause more trouble than it's worth. Or it could mean that they consented to it.

My take is this: Most men flirt and look for the cues that the woman is into them. If they get the right cues, they make a move. Occasionally, they misread things and get turned down.

You are right. Being turned down may go from a disdainful remark to being slapped.
If a man takes huge risks and never even gets slapped, he is at least justified in assuming that his advances were, if not welcomed, at least considered acceptable. "let you do it".
If he had been slapped over and over again, he would re-evaluate his "risk taking".

This may not excuse him but women who are not immediately at least slapping him on the spot, if not outright looking for witnesses and calling the police immediately - because they think it's not worth the trouble - are part of the problem.

15   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Jan 20, 4:47pm  

Dan8267 says

Clearly you are right about what Trump said and the other person is grossly misrepresenting Trump, who by the way is a complete asshole, but he's not guilty of saying he could sexually assault a woman and get away with it.

He's a Bush. I thought I saw him on TV.

He's like the textbook snobby yet clueless rich fratboy dickhead from every other 80s movie.

16   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2017 Jan 20, 6:35pm  

The media and the left consistently lie and the sheep that follow them don't wanna hear the truth.

It's well established that Trump NEVER said Mexicans are rapists, yet the imbecile democrat supporters at large love to say that quote over and over again. Ask if the can actually point to where trump said that and all you get is derpitty derp derp.

17   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2017 Jan 20, 6:35pm  

When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. And now they are beating us economically. They are not our friend, believe me. But they’re killing us economically.

The U.S. has become a dumping ground for everybody else’s problems.

Thank you. It’s true, and these are the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting. And it only makes common sense. It only makes common sense. They’re sending us not the right people.

It’s coming from more than Mexico. It’s coming from all over South and Latin America, and it’s coming probably— probably— from the Middle East. But we don’t know. Because we have no protection and we have no competence, we don’t know what’s happening. And it’s got to stop and it’s got to stop fast.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.breitbart.com/live/vice-presidential-debate-fact-check-livewire/fact-check-donald-trump-not-call-mexicans-rapists-criminals/amp/?client=safari

18   Ceffer   2017 Jan 20, 6:36pm  

I am so glad we can clear these things up with rational discourse.

19   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2017 Jan 20, 6:37pm  

indigenous says

Patrick says

It is a lie to say that Trump said "they can't do anything about it". That would be a false quote and totally changes the meaning to imply no consent.

Pictures do not lie

Ahahaha that's awesome!

20   BayArea   2017 Jan 20, 6:47pm  

Patrick, when I've spoken to liberals about the pussy grabbing video, exactly 100% of them have added at least one major detail that didn't actually happen.

21   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Jan 20, 6:56pm  

I wonder where the "Hates Gays" shit comes from. That's a complete fucking mystery to me.

22   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2017 Jan 20, 7:05pm  

Can we at least suggest gang rape and lynching for the lying sacks of shit in the editorial rooms of The NY Times, Washington Post, and nasty propagandists like Rachel Maddox may possibly be proper recourse?

23   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2017 Jan 20, 7:25pm  

Oh and let's not forget the entirely false story about Trump making fun of a crippled reporter or making up that Muslims were celebrating the etc attacks on rooftops in Jersey. Wow does the media ever love to lie

24   anonymous   2017 Jan 20, 7:58pm  

Tenpoundbass says

If Brad Pitt had said that ten years ago

i think it was chris rock that had a bit on clarence thomas:

if clarence thomas looked like denzel washington, it would have "oh clarence, you devil you"

instead it was, "sexual harassment!!!"

25   Ceffer   2017 Jan 21, 12:14am  

"Get ahold of yourself, woman! Better yet, I'll get ahold of you!"

26   bob2356   2017 Jan 21, 12:39am  

Fucking White Male says

Oh and let's not forget the entirely false story about Trump making fun of a crippled reporter or making up that Muslims were celebrating the etc attacks on rooftops in Jersey.

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/11/trump_thousands_in_jersey_city_cheered_on_911.html

So who is the orange guy in the video saying he watched thousands of people in jersey city cheering the WTC coming down? He sure looks a lot like trump to me. I can't see people on rooftops in Jersey CIty from Manhatten. The whoever the fucker is he has some great set of eyes.

http://people.com/politics/trump-denies-mocking-journalist-disability-watch-video/

Is this the same trump look a like having an spastic moment just as he was talking about a crippled reporter? Epilepsy you think? What is this guys name that looks just like trump anyway?

27   NotBuyingIt   2017 Jan 21, 8:18am  

So let me get this straight - If I grab them by the pussy before they object then it is not sexual assault?

28   Patrick   2017 Jan 21, 8:20am  

If they consent, it is not sexual assault.

29   anonymous   2017 Jan 21, 9:01am  

here it is, chris rock monologue:

Sexual harrassment! What is sexual harassment?! What's the difference between sexual harrassment and just being an idiot? I mean, if my father didn't harrass my mother, I wouldn't be here! I mean, I understand some sexual harrassment.. if a man is your boss and says, "Hey, sleep with me, or you're fired." That's sexual harrassment. And that's the only thing that's sexual harrassment! Everything else falls under "Just trying to get laid." You can't put a man in jail for that! I don't care how hard he tries, that's all he was trying to do! Anita Hill started this whole thing. It's all about looks, you know? Because if Clarence Thomas looked like Denzel Washington, this would have never happened! She'd be all, "Oh, stop it, Clarence, you nasty! Your fine self!" So, what's sexual harrassment, when an ugly man wants some? "Oh, he ugly! Call the police! Call the authority!"

30   joeyjojojunior   2017 Jan 21, 9:13am  

T L Lipsovich says

He's like the textbook snobby yet clueless rich fratboy dickhead from every other 80s movie.

Wait--are you talking about Billy Bush or Donald Trump?

31   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2017 Jan 21, 9:32am  

bob2356 says

Fucking White Male says

Oh and let's not forget the entirely false story about Trump making fun of a crippled reporter or making up that Muslims were celebrating the etc attacks on rooftops in Jersey.

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/11/trump_thousands_in_jersey_city_cheered_on_911.html

So who is the orange guy in the video saying he watched thousands of people in jersey city cheering the WTC coming down? He sure looks a lot like trump to me. I can't see people on rooftops in Jersey CIty from Manhatten. The whoever the fucker is he has some great set of eyes.

http://people.com/politics/trump-denies-mocking-journalist-disabilit...

Here you go Bob. I challenge you to be the fact based person you claim to be.

https://www.catholics4trump.com/the-true-story-donald-trump-did-not-mock-a-reporters-disability/

And here you go as far as Trumps statements on cheering Muslims in New Jersey on 911. The fact is it was reported and now the actual reporter of those incidents attempts to revise history. https://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/trump-carson-on-911-celebrations/

Politifact, WaPo, etc are propaganda arms of the democrat party who lie left and right, yet most democrats seem willing to bury their heads in the sand. Congrats to left leaning individuals like Patrick, TL, and others willing to take a more objective look at things.

32   anonymous   2017 Jan 21, 10:10am  

It's just very refreshing to see all you great Americans, having done extensive cost-benefits analysis, honed in on the most important issues of the day. What America is all about

33   Blurtman   2017 Jan 21, 10:37am  

If you have got a lot going for yourself, and are wealthy or on the track to a great career and income, there are women who will not only let you grab their pussy, but let you fuck them as well. They may even suck your toes, and other things, too.

What is wrong about saying that?

34   Patrick   2017 Jan 21, 11:40am  

Blurtman says

If you have got a lot going for yourself, and are wealthy or on the track to a great career and income, there are women who will not only let you grab their pussy, but let you fuck them as well. They may even suck your toes, and other things, too.

What is wrong about saying that?

What is wrong about saying that is the exposure of female hypocrisy. Women say one thing, but then do something else, because that's their best strategy by far.

Women say they never want a man to grab their pussy, but they are lying. They do want acceptably high-status rich attractive unattached men to grab their pussy, but also the power to classify the exact same action as assault if the man is unacceptable or unlikely to commit. They even want the power to revise history and go back and claim assault even years later if the pussy grab was desired and enjoyed but the man then fails to commit.

Women have a dilemma: how much pussy to give up without commitment? If they do give up a lot and don't get commitment, they have devalued themselves. If they don't give up any, the man may lose interest.

Men also have a dilemma: how far to push things? If they push a lot and grab pussy, they risk assault charges. If they are fearful and never bust a move, they never get laid. The feminist advice (and now law in CA) to get "affirmative consent" is the worst possible advice. Women hate hate hate men who comply with that law and sincerely supplicate. So pretty much all sex with women is now technically rape. What a shitty law, passed by spineless legislators.

http://time.com/3222176/campus-rape-the-problem-with-yes-means-yes/

35   Dan8267   2017 Jan 21, 11:47am  

rando says

Women say they never want a man to grab their pussy, but they are lying. They do want acceptably high-status rich attractive unattached men to grab their pussy, but also the power to classify the exact same action as assault if the man is unacceptable or unlikely to commit.

Evolutionary psychology of women summed up perfectly.

36   bob2356   2017 Jan 22, 8:12pm  

Fucking White Male says

Here you go Bob. I challenge you to be the fact based person you claim to be.

https://www.catholics4trump.com/the-true-story-donald-trump-did-not-mock-a-reporters-disability/

What facts exactly? Do you know what a fact is? Trump says he doesn't remember the reporter and wasn't mocking his disability. Which may or may not be true. That is a fact somehow? That is a claim, not a fact. No amount of blathering by catholics 4 trump turns it into a fact.

Fucking White Male says

And here you go as far as Trumps statements on cheering Muslims in New Jersey on 911. The fact is it was reported and now the actual reporter of those incidents attempts to revise history. https://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/trump-carson-on-911-celebrations/

So trump claiming twice in his speech that he watched thousands of people celebrating, watched not read about, when there is no film showing it ever happened is fact based how exactly? What a joke. You are pathetic.

37   anonymous   2017 Jan 22, 9:45pm  

errc says

It's just very refreshing to see all you great Americans, having done extensive cost-benefits analysis, honed in on the most important issues of the day. What America is all about

yes, we forgot - you are having an existential crisis because the new administration opposes drug abuse/addiction.

if you would simply be honest with yourself, you could realize that what you are doing with marijuana is drug abuse/addiction. no one should be taking any drugs if their body is functioning normally.

38   bob2356   2017 Jan 23, 4:34am  

Dan8267 says

rando says

Women say they never want a man to grab their pussy, but they are lying. They do want acceptably high-status rich attractive unattached men to grab their pussy, but also the power to classify the exact same action as assault if the man is unacceptable or unlikely to commit.

Evolutionary psychology of women summed up perfectly.

You guys don't get a lot of dates do you.

39   bob2356   2017 Jan 23, 4:37am  

landtof says

if you would simply be honest with yourself, you could realize that what you are doing with marijuana is drug abuse/addiction. no one should be taking any drugs if their body is functioning normally.

Why do you care? Nothing better to do?

40   Patrick   2017 Jan 23, 8:03am  

bob2356 says

You guys don't get a lot of dates do you.

@bob2356 Read the sidebar material at https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/ especially the "Theory Reading" section.

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