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Pretended to be Black to get into Med school - Now Oppose Affirmative Action


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2017 Jan 24, 8:27pm   4,996 views  21 comments

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With the next Supreme Court justice(s) to be picked by Trump, is this finally the end of legalized discrimination?

http://ijr.com/opinion/2016/10/261239-affirmative-action-trump-vijay-chokalingam/
The admission statistics from public universities, the College Board, and the American Association of Medical Colleges (AAMC) all show that given the same grades and test scores, it’s considerably easier to gain admission to college or graduate school as African American or Hispanic, than as Asian American or white. According to the AAMC, an applicant with my GPA (3.1) and my MCAT score (31) would have an acceptance rate of 74.3% as African American, 49.1% as Hispanic, 29.0% as White, and 17.1% as Asian American in 2013-5.

If someone did what Elizabeth Warren or I did, they would have improved their chances of admission by as much as 57.2%.

#politics

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1   Patrick   2017 Jan 24, 8:29pm  

If you don't hate white people, you're racist!

2   Y   2017 Jan 24, 9:12pm  

Skin pigmentation is a choice, not a genetic outcome.

3   MMR   2017 Jan 24, 10:54pm  

Of course he opposes affirmative action; like I said in another thread, in what ways is being a 'dot indian' an advantage in this country. He isn't best student but clearly can do respectably in med school and pass all boards without any fails.

Unlike many of my relatives, I didn't grow up with lot of money and had only slightly more than the Mexican girl who is first in family to go to college.

But when it comes to college admission I am compared amongst a list of asians and Indians who have, in most cases a lot more resources than I did, while Mexican Girl is compared among list of peers(other Mexicans)

That girl went to Notre dame and Stanford for med school and is on faculty at UNM school of med

4   MMR   2017 Jan 24, 10:55pm  

Elizabeth warren is about as Native American as I am Pacific Islander

5   🎂 Rin   2017 Jan 25, 5:11pm  

MMR says

Elizabeth warren is about as Native American as I am Pacific Islander

All a South Asian needs to do is find his 'Parsi' relative (think Freddie Mercury) and then, he's a white applicant to medical school, since ppl from Central Asia or the Middle East are white for admission's sake.

If that fails, then get a mail stop in South America and then, re-label oneself as a Hispanic-South-Asian.

6   missing   2017 Jan 25, 5:18pm  

rando says

If you don't hate white people, you're racist!

A black colleague of mine once told me that one can only be racist of one has economic power. That's why according to him backs cannot be racist (which I had accused him of being).

7   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Jan 25, 5:18pm  

FP says

A black colleague of mine once told me that one can only be racist of one has economic power. That's why according to him backs cannot be racist (which I had accused him of being).

That's the SJW definition to allow them to be racist while accusing others of racism.

8   missing   2017 Jan 25, 5:29pm  

MMR says

I am compared amongst a list of asians and Indians who have, in most cases a lot more resources than I did

yep, compounded unfairness - poor white/asian kid vs rich black kid

9   🎂 Rin   2017 Jan 25, 5:38pm  

MMR says

I am compared amongst a list of asians and Indians who have, in most cases a lot more resources than I did

Hence, the Univ of London distance program, the only true equalizer among all attendants, white or Asian, since the tuition is low but the grade inflation is minimal, along with the brand name value of a top tier British university.

10   Blurtman   2017 Jan 25, 7:30pm  

MMR says

That girl went to Notre dame and Stanford for med school and is on faculty at UNM school of med

Absolutely. I had several classmate friends with terrible board scores and mediocre grades who were admitted to med schools that rejected more qualified white applicants. Just look on the NIH website for loads of special programs for non-white people. I hope Trump and the Republican congress gut affirmative action.

11   Ceffer   2017 Jan 25, 8:00pm  

If your parents are pressuring you to go to Med School against your wishes, now, all you have to do is pretend to be white.

12   missing   2017 Jan 25, 8:14pm  

Do college applications ask for race? Is it voluntary disclosure? And how do they check?

13   Shaman   2017 Jan 25, 8:23pm  

FP says

And how do they check?

That I don't know but if you can fool them long enough to start your term, they have few options.

14   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Jan 25, 8:44pm  

just any guy says

If someone did what Elizabeth Warren or I did, they would have improved their chances of admission by as much as 57.2%.

Anyone who is so innumerate should not get into med school period.

15   Dan8267   2017 Jan 25, 8:47pm  

just any guy says

Pretended to be Black to get into Med school

Affirmative Action is nothing but thinly veiled discrimination, and it does nothing to end the root causes of inter-generational poverty. It does, however, endanger the pubic. When qualified medical students, firefighters, or any other important job applicant is denied in favor of a less capable one, the result is that the public risks death. It's equality theater at the expense of public safety and ethics.

I have no problem with a white person pretending to be a minority in order to not be discriminated against by Affirmative Action. It's the modern equivalent of light-skin blacks trying to pass as white so as to not be disenfranchised. The problem is with Affirmative Action, not those trying not to be crushed by it.

16   missing   2017 Jan 25, 8:51pm  

OK, what if I declare my race as "mixed" or "other" - ambiguous enough so that it can't be proven wrong + sounds minority-like?

17   BayArea   2017 Jan 25, 8:57pm  

We always talk about hypocrisy.

The truth of the matter is the overwhelming majority of the population is just arguing whatever points directly benefit them. It's not about right or wrong.

18   Patrick   2017 Jan 25, 9:12pm  

just any guy says

an applicant with my GPA (3.1) and my MCAT score (31) would have an acceptance rate of 74.3% as African American, 49.1% as Hispanic, 29.0% as White, and 17.1% as Asian American

Poor Asians have it worst of all.

19   BayArea   2017 Jan 25, 9:14pm  

rando says

Poor Asians have it worst of all.

But we never hear them bitch and whine. Instead they slap us right in the face when their families buy up all our Bay Area real estate ;-)

20   anonymous   2017 Jan 25, 9:19pm  

BayArea says

rando says

Poor Asians have it worst of all.

But we never hear them bitch and whine. Instead they slap us right in the face when their families buy up all our Bay Area real estate ;-)

Oh they're starting to bitch.

21   missing   2017 Jan 25, 9:28pm  

rando says

Poor Asians have it worst of all.

Poor, mediocre and lazy asian must be the worst :)

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