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Obama already more than doubled sales of arms to Saudi compared to Bush

http://www.defenseone.com/business/2016/11/obamas-final-arms-export-tally-more-doubles-bushs/133014/

Then again there wasn't much protest about obama 20,000 bombs dropped on Muslim countries in 2016 alone.

Same old same old SELECTIVE CRITICISM.

MMR says

Obama already more than doubled sales of arms to Saudi compared to Bush

So Trump == Obama then in terms of war?

MMR says

Then again there wasn't much protest about obama 20,000 bombs dropped on Muslim countries in 2016 alone.

So it is ok for Trump to do since Obama did the same?

gsr says

"Anti-war" Trump

Trump lied about being against the war. He's no dove.

He didn't Dan. He expressed skepticism many times. The only ammo his detractors have is Stern asked him a non sequitur very early on, like 2002, if he thought it was okay and he said "Yeah, I guess".

Between that time and 2003 he went on many programs - Cavuto, Hannity, others - and said he wasn't convinced it was necessary and Economy was top priority.

T L Lipsovich says

He didn't Dan. He expressed skepticism many times. The only ammo his detractors have is Stern asked him a non sequitur very early on, like 2002, if he thought it was okay and he said "Yeah, I guess".

So he Bush/Obama 3.0. Rather, he is Bush on steroid.

Notorious Mercenary Erik Prince is Advising Trump from the Shadows
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/17/notorious-mercenary-erik-prince-is-advising-trump-from-the-shadows/

Ironman says

gsr says

So Drumpf == Obama then in terms of war?

How come Drumpf hasn't received the Nobel Peace Prize yet?

I guess Erik Prince, the Blackwater guy screwed him on this.

gsr says

So he Bush/Obama 3.0. Rather, he is Bush on steroid.

Obama kills Terrorist's US Citizen Teenage Son, no trial. Media says "Military Age Male, Collateral Damage"
Trump kills Terrorist's Daughter. Media says "Trump murders little children"

How many civilians died in Obama's 7-nation Drone Strike? Obama says less than 1000, almost everybody else says much more.
https://theintercept.com/2016/07/01/obama-administration-finally-releases-its-dubious-drone-death-toll/

T L Lipsovich says

gsr says

So he Bush/Obama 3.0. Rather, he is Bush on steroid.

Obama kills Terrorist's US Citizen Teenage Son. Media says "Military Age Male, Collateral Damage"
Drumpf kills Terrorist's Daughter. Media says "Drumpf murders little children"

Again, it is ok since Obama did something similar. See the picture of the girl, and see what your daddy has done.

gsr says

Again, it is ok since Obama did something similar. See the picture of the girl, and see what your daddy has done.

See the picture of this teenage boy (and his cousin), or is it "Military Age Male, Suspected Militant"? Obama killed him.

https://theintercept.com/2017/01/30/obama-killed-a-16-year-old-american-in-yemen-trump-just-killed-his-8-year-old-sister/

Again, the raid that killed the girl planned by Obama. Trump IS at fault for not re-planning this operation before executing it.

Of course, Obama and Hillary are responsible for the deaths of 10,000s of civilians at the hands of ISIS and Al Qaeda from Libya to Syria.

You want to distract from Obama, and put the entire burden of our current MENA operations on a President two weeks into his first term. Psssst: Everything doesn't halt at the Pentagon and State Dept. between administrations while the new President settles in.

T L Lipsovich says

fault for not re-planning this operation before executing it.

The reliance on an Osprey should have been a warning in itself. Otherwise though, the distinction between males and females, and the distinction between adults and children, can mean very little over there. Once they accept the fraud about 72 whores for the males, and "perfect marriage" for the females, they fall in love with death. I've seen videos of 10yos killing adults. Those kids aren't reading Lewis Carroll, they're reading Mohamed: Koran, hadiths, "kill the disbelievers," "strike terror into the enemies of Allah," etc. For most of human history, kids joined in the hunt, and worked. Gauzy post-Victorian notions about childhood did not apply, and still don't in places where the patriarch's Islamic family plan is to get the kids to paradise before they have time to jeopardize their eternal rewards by straying from the Islamic path.

"The commandos were taken aback when some of the women grabbed weapons and started firing, multiplying the militant firepower beyond what they had expected. The Americans called in airstrikes from helicopter gunships and fighter aircraft that helped kill some 14 Qaeda fighters, but not before an MV-22 Osprey aircraft involved in the operation experienced a “hard landing,” injuring three more American personnel on board. The Osprey, which the Marine Corps said cost $75 million, was badly damaged and had to be destroyed by an airstrike."

curious2 says

The reliance on an Osprey should have been a warning in itself.

It's hard for materialist capitalist liberal democratic secular Westerners to imagine a largely feudal and deeply religious society where Family/Clan/Tribal Honor is more important than self-Actualization, and the people actually believe it in their hearts 100%. They think it's just a quaint cultural trait MENA people mouth agreement with but don't really believe.

We should probably 'forget' some MV-22s in AQ controlled territory. It'll kill a ton of them if they try to fly it.

gsr says

MMR says

Obama already more than doubled sales of arms to Saudi compared to Bush

So Trump == Obama then in terms of war?

gsr says

Ironman says

gsr says

So Drumpf == Obama then in terms of war?

How come Drumpf hasn't received the Nobel Peace Prize yet?

Because they don't give the Nobel Peace Prize to immensely stupid trust fund brats.

Heres Your Card says

...you have quite the hard on for him

T L Lipsovich says

He didn't Dan. He expressed skepticism many times.

He expressed skepticism about the competency of the government in waging the war, rather than opposing the war itself.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/20/politics/donald-trump-iraq-war-reality-check/

In contrast, Bernie Sanders was always against the war.

gsr says

So it is ok for Trump to do since Obama did the same?

Didn't say it was ok; just sounds lot like partisan fake outrage

Heres Your Card says

gsr says

MMR says

Obama already more than doubled sales of arms to Saudi compared to Bush

So Trump == Obama then in terms of war?

Pretty sure anything that obama failed at, he blamed bush, even several years into second term.

At that time, I don't recall any of you complaining about Obama. Once again, hypocritical fake outrage.

MMR says

Pretty sure anything that obama failed at, he blamed bush, even several years into second term.

At that time, I don't recall any of you complaining about Obama. Once again, hypocritical fake outrage.

You must be mistaking me with someone else.

Saudis need new weapons so they can attack America again,9/11- 2.0.
If one American dies from one of these weapons all Trump Voters should
be allowed to experience CAPITAL PUNISHMENT!

Democrats being failures doesn't keep Trump from being a retard failure,in less than a month, by killing one of our great American Seal Heroes
& civilians.

MMR says

At that time, I don't recall any of you complaining about Obama. Once again, hypocritical fake outrage.

Yep. Nor did the protest in the many raids where Obama's drone strikes killed everybody except actual terrorists.

T L Lipsovich says

Yep. Nor did the protest in the many raids where Obama's drone strikes killed everybody except actual terrorists.

Really? Obama drone strikes didn't kill terrorists? Source?

joeyjojojunior says

Really? Obama drone strikes didn't kill terrorists? Source?

Read more carefully. In many raids, not all.

T L Lipsovich says

Read more carefully. In many raids, not all.

OK--show me the many raids then.

(hint--many doesn't equal 1 or 2)

And Trump obviously comes for more criticism when 100% of his raids were disasters.

joeyjojojunior says

OK--show me the many raids then.

(hint--many doesn't equal 1 or 2)

Whew, this took 3 seconds of googling.

Nobody knows identity of 150 people killed in Somalia, but certain they deserve it.
https://theintercept.com/2016/03/08/nobody-knows-the-identity-of-the-150-people-killed-by-u-s-in-somalia-but-most-are-certain-they-deserved-it/

Nearly 90 Percent Of People Killed In Recent Drone Strikes Were Not The Target
U.S. drone strikes have killed scores of civilians in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/civilian-deaths-drone-strikes_us_561fafe2e4b028dd7ea6c4ff
The Obama Administration's Drone-Strike Dissembling
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/the-obama-administrations-drone-strike-dissembling/473541/

MMR says

Then again there wasn't much protest about obama 20,000 bombs dropped on Muslim countries in 2016 alone.

Such "SELECTIVE CRITICISM".

If Hillary had done it, it would be WW3 upcoming. When Fuckstick McClownface does it.....IT"S MAGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

gsr says

MMR says

Pretty sure anything that obama failed at, he blamed bush, even several years into second term.

At that time, I don't recall any of you complaining about Obama. Once again, hypocritical fake outrage.

You must be mistaking me with someone else.

Possibly. But I definitely don't recall you complaining about obama as you don't post all that much

HEY YOU says

Then again there wasn't much protest about obama 20,000 bombs dropped on Muslim countries in 2016 alone.

Such "SELECTIVE CRITICISM".

Nah just filling in all the blanks you routinely miss

"SELECTIVE CRITICISM" = Thousands of Bombs okay, temporary ban while adjusting entry procedures for 7 countries is fascism.

T L Lipsovich says

joeyjojojunior says

OK--show me the many raids then.

(hint--many doesn't equal 1 or 2)

Whew, this took 3 seconds of googling.

Nobody knows identity of 150 people killed in Somalia, but certain they deserve it.

https://theintercept.com/2016/03/08/nobody-knows-the-identity-of-the-150-people-killed-by-u-s-in-somalia-but-most-are-certain-they-deserved-it/

Nearly 90 Percent Of People Killed In Recent Drone Strikes Were Not The Target

U.S. drone strikes have killed scores of civilians in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/civi...

Stop looking up shit for this guy. Fact that you could prove it in 3 secs she's that he is too lazy or conditioned/brainwashed. Predominantly liberal-leaning sources as well

MMR says

Fact that you could prove it in 3 secs she's that he is too lazy or conditioned/brainwashed. Predominantly liberal-leaning sources as well

There was more than I expected. I agree.

And it was nice to see you respond to something without asking the poster if they want those kids going to their school. As if it's a real burn. You're among the idiots that vote against your own self interest every election.

gsr says

"Anti-war" Trump Approves Weapons Sales To Saudi Arabia And Bahrain

Not approved yet, but a newspaper report says they are expected to be. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/7/trump-ready-to-approve-weapons-packages-to-saudi-a/

In any case, yes, I say that Trump has failed by not calling out Saudi Arabia in particular as the ideological and financial source of almost all terrorism in the world.

rando says

In any case, yes, I say that Trump has failed by not calling out Saudi Arabia in particular as the ideological and financial source of almost all terrorism in the world.

Too many neocons on the cabinet Pence makes me nervous but a better bet on this subject than Hillary.

45 as World Military Dictator will MAGA.