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Liberals Attack ACLU for Defending Milo Yiannopoulos Right to Free Speech

By Blurtman following x   2017 Feb 13, 9:01am 2,217 views   7 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    

The American Civil Liberties Union is being slammed defending the right of Milo Yiannopoulos to free speech.

Posting on Twitter, the ACLU account signal boosted the tweets of one of its lawyers, Lee Rowland, who said it was important to protect speech—even speech we personally disagree with—to prevent the First Amendment from devolving into a popularity contest.

Both the official ACLU Twitter account and Rowland were mobbed by outraged social justice warriors who told them they were wrong to defend his basic rights.

Their arguments were replete with hyperbole denouncing him as some kind of homosexual Nazi whose words will usher in a very gay and very fabulous Fourth Reich. The hysteria couldn’t, of course, be farther from the truth.

The same organization has been battling against Donald Trump’s executive order that prevented Green Card holders from several countries in the Middle East from entering the United States.

The progressive left celebrated the ACLU then, but its recent move to defend Yiannopoulos has caused some to declare them the bad guys.

“Enjoy being on the wrong side of history in the most embarrassing way possible,” wrote Amy Dentata, who proceeded to attack the ACLU’s defenders. “Hate speech isn’t protected speech, inciting violence isn’t protected speech. You fucking rube.”

“You’re making an absolute ass of yourselves with this, and you know it,” wrote Parker Molloy, who made the inconceivable argument that Yiannopoulos’ right to speech prevented others from speaking.

Molloy linked to a piece by Feminist Frequency associate Katherine Cross, who says that speech should be restricted.

In responding to Rowland, leftwing blogger Charles “Little Green Footballs” Johnson and his supporters say that the government has no duty to protect anyone’s free speech.

Many others, including Canadian anthropologist and Michael Oman-Reagan, who called for the “queering” of space travel and made the news by attacking the Oxford Dictionary’s “sexist definitions,” cited the widely debunked “fire in a crowded theater” argument, equating Yiannopoulos’ speech to violence.

Ira Madison, the MTV writer who attacked Jeff Sessions’ Asian granddaughter, told the ACLU that he was blocking them. Others followed suit by expressing their disappointment and announcing their decisions to stop donating to the ACLU.

In the wake of the attacks against its stance, an ACLU member linked to an article explaining its position on “hate speech.” It writes:

The First Amendment to the United States Constitution protects speech no matter how offensive its content. Speech codes adopted by government-financed state colleges and universities amount to government censorship, in violation of the Constitution. And the ACLU believes that all campuses should adhere to First Amendment principles because academic freedom is a bedrock of education in a free society.
The right to free speech is indivisible. Restricting the speech of any group will jeopardize everyone’s rights, because the same laws used to silence one group can be used against anyone else.

Conversely, the same laws that protect Yiannopoulos are used to defend the voices of social justice activists.



1   TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce   ignore (4)   2017 Feb 13, 9:11am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        




2   Dan8267   ignore (3)   2017 Feb 13, 9:52am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Blurtman says

Liberals Attack ACLU for Defending Milo Yiannopoulos Right to Free Speech

How dumb are you? The ACLU is liberal. Those who are attacking it are conservatives, as usual, just this time leftist conservatives.

So let's once again correct your title.

Conservatives yet again Attack ACLU -- must be Monday again. This time for Defending Milo Yiannopoulos Right to Free Speech

There. Fixed that for you.

3   Dan8267   ignore (3)   2017 Feb 13, 9:53am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Liberals in a nutshell...

4   Blurtman   ignore (1)   2017 Feb 13, 9:57am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Dan8267 says

Those who are attacking it are conservatives

Not in this case, i.e., free speech is OK as long as I am not offended by it.

5   Entitlemented   ignore (0)   2017 Feb 13, 10:03am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The way freedoms can erode, per Bolshevik history is that Freedom of Speech is the first liberty to be quelled:

"That is why the first priority for all totalitarian regimes was to impose restrictions on freedom of speech. In 1917, the Russian Bolsheviks moved to limit freedom of speech the very day after the October coup-d’état. They adopted the "Decree on the Press," which shut down any newspapers "sowing discord by libelous distortion of facts." Lenin wrote that "to tolerate the existence of these newspapers means to cease to be a socialist." Similarly, only a few months after coming to power in 1933, German National Socialists started to burn books, and the Ministry of Propaganda introduced strict censorship."


And as we know the liberals - turned - leftist suffered greatly with 10s of millions of the murders during the next 30 years in Russia.


6   Dan8267   ignore (3)   2017 Feb 13, 12:37pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Blurtman says

Dan8267 says

Those who are attacking it are conservatives

Not in this case, i.e., free speech is OK as long as I am not offended by it.

Actually, yes, exactly in that case by exactly the definitions of liberal and conservative. Leftists are just another conservative tribe. You own them and their sins. We do not.

The problem you are describing is no different between the left and the right or among any of the countless tribes of conservationism that have existed in the United States or other nations throughout history. Conservatives are called conservatives because they want to conserve their culture, their values, their practices. What those specific culture, values, and practices are is utterly immaterial. A conservative who says "South Carolina will always be a dry state" is no more or less conservative than one who says "beer and NASCAR, not weed". They are both using the same tactics to accomplish the same ultimate goal: imposing a single culture onto the general population and punishing anyone who rebels against that culture. That is the defining characteristic of conservatism.

In contrast, the defining characteristic of liberalism is supporting the right of the individual to do anything he wants to do as long as he is not infringing upon the rights of others. When you advocate conservatism or denounce liberalism, you are stating that you think the state should force people do conform to the cultural preferences of one arbitrary group or another. Throughout history this has been the battlefront between conservatism and liberalism.

It's funny how every time conservatives bitch about the behavior of liberals, they are really bitching about the behavior of other conservatives.


7   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Oct 27, 8:59pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

No one hates free speech more than Americans do.

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