What are the root causes of Islamic terrorism? Discuss.
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What are the root causes of Islamic terrorism? Discuss.

By PeopleUnited following x   2017 Mar 20, 5:38pm 32,485 views   588 comments   watch   quote     share    


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Sensible people are discouraged from thinking about the root causes of Islamic terrorism by mainstream media and academia. (AKA SJW's)

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/414113/actual-root-causes-islamic-terrorism-ira-straus



Osama Bin Laden was a well to do man from a well to do family who was radicalized.

http://markhumphrys.com/root.cause.html

Former Islamic Radical shares his solutions.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/261829/former-islamic-radical-unveils-root-causes-islamic-joseph-puder

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561 P N Dr Lo R   ignore (1)   2017 May 23, 2:26pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

PeopleUnited says

The religion of peace in the last 30 days...

Most of these were excepetions that don't prove anything.

562 PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 May 23, 4:34pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

P N Dr Lo R says

PeopleUnited says

The religion of peace in the last 30 days...

Most of these were excepetions that don't prove anything.

These aren't the droids you're looking for.

563 sagacious1   ignore (0)   2017 May 24, 7:48pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

The answer to the original topic question of the root cause of Islamic terrorism is, technology. Our common genome aside, the diversity of culture, understanding, governance and traditions for much of human history, were by and large sequestered by physical barriers...oceans, mountains, deserts, and distance....the world was indeed a large place. There were of course conflicts, and some of great magnitude. However, never to the degree we experience today where the clash of cultures collide in an instant on a daily basis on the internet. Where people can intersect with all sort of differing ideas, traditions, beliefs. It is a recipe for discord, and frankly quite predictable. The world has shrunk considerably. This phenomenon is not merely relegated to Islam solely. Even here on this forum we see....people who perhaps would never have known one another otherwise, have opportunity to defend their positions.

564 justme   ignore (0)   2017 May 24, 8:19pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

What is the root cause of Christian bomberism, invaderism and regime-change-ism?

565 someone else   ignore (0)   2017 May 24, 9:06pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Why do you assume the bombings have anything to do with Christianity?

Lots of those neo-Cons were Jewish.

It was about oil and preventing oil from being priced in Euros.

566 justme   ignore (0)   2017 May 24, 10:57pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

In which case, should we be the least bit surprised that (some, not all) inhabitants of the countries we bomb and invade hate us, Christian or not, and then proceed to go to western countries and bomb us? Both sides are doing terrible things. Adults and children are being killed and maimed everywhere. This has got to stop.

567 someone else   ignore (0)   2017 May 24, 11:18pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Bombing and invasion was bad, agreed. I protested, absolutely did not want the attack on Iraq after those Saudis attacked the US on 9/11. Looked into Canadian citizenship.

But how do you explain Boko Haram? Or Islamic murders in the Phillipines? Or Sweden? Or Germany? Or Thailand? Or murders of tourists in Tunisia? Or the massive attack in Bombay? Or China?

Those other countries had nothing to do with the war. How do you explain them?

Could it just possibly be that Islam itself incites murder in its core teachings, and that ignoring the role of Islam gives tacit approval to yet more Islamic murders?

The first step to solving a problem is to speak honestly about it.

568 FP   ignore (1)   2017 May 25, 12:46am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Patrick says

Could it just possibly be that Islam itself incites murder in its core teachings

In the Ottoman empire, Christians and Jews were treated better than other religious groups in the western empires at that time (until the Armenian genocide, but it was not motivated by religion).

Patrick says

The first step to solving a problem is to speak honestly about it.

The first step is to recognize what the problem is.

569 someone else   ignore (0)   2017 May 25, 12:59am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

FP says

In the Ottoman empire, Christians and Jews were treated better than other religious groups in the western empires at that time (until the Armenian genocide, but it was not motivated by religion).

Christians and Jews were moneymakers for their Islamic rulers via the jizya tax. The Armenians in particular had good trade going with the Venetians and could freely travel back and forth.

And the Armenians were indeed killed largely because of religion, because it was feared that as Orthodox Christians, they would side with Russia and help break up the Ottoman empire even further.

My MIL is Armenian and I've read a bit about the genocide.

570 FP   ignore (1)   2017 May 25, 7:47am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Patrick says

Christians and Jews were moneymakers for their Islamic rulers via the jizya tax.

Even if this is the only reason (proof??), they were still more tolerant than their western counterparts.

Patrick says

And the Armenians were indeed killed largely because of religion, because it was feared that as Orthodox Christians, they would side with Russia and help break up the Ottoman empire even further.

You know very well that this is different than religion intolerance.

571 someone else   ignore (0)   2017 May 25, 8:03am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

You can say it was political, but :

1. nonetheless they were killed for being Christian
2. most of the murdering was done by ordinary Muslims who were very willing to go along with the murders because Islam told them it was good to kill non-Muslims

572 TwoScoopsMcGee   ignore (1)   2017 May 25, 8:21am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

justme says

In which case, should we be the least bit surprised that inhabitants of the countries we bomb and invade hate us, Christian or not, and then proceed to go to western countries and bomb us? Both sides are doing terrible things. Adults and children are being killed and maimed everywhere. This has got to stop.

It should be a no-brainer then NOT to let them in. At the very least, not single males.

573 FP   ignore (1)   2017 May 25, 8:27am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Patrick says

nonetheless they were killed for being Christian

for being perceived as allies of a foreign power, among other non-religious reasons

Patrick says

most of the murdering was done by ordinary Muslims who were very willing to go along with the murders because Islam told them it was good to kill non-Muslims

ordinary christians in India did a lot of killings of muslims during the Indian/Pakistan genocides

574 TwoScoopsMcGee   ignore (1)   2017 May 25, 8:35am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

FP says

ordinary christians in India did a lot of killings of muslims during the Indian/Pakistan genocides

People don't forget the hundreds of years of Jihad and Oppression. The Balkans, Hungary, and Poland don't either. Germany, unlike Bulgaria, was never an Exploited Colony of an Imperialist Muslim Ottoman Empire that enslaved millions. Not because of arms, but because Magyars and Poles defeated the Turks at Vienna, while Germans were fighting amongst themselves.

In fact, parts of Europe are still under Turkish Imperialist Domination, like Thrace. It should be liberated.

575 FP   ignore (1)   2017 May 25, 8:40am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

TwoScoopsMcGee says

People don't forget the hundreds of years of Jihad and Oppression.

Oh, I agree with this. I don't advocate for welcoming muslims into Europe. On the contrary, I am against it.

Maybe it is good to step back and see where exactly Patrick and I disagree. I'll do it later today when I have time.

576 FortWayne   ignore (0)   2017 May 25, 9:00am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Or anyone wearing a beekeeper outfit

TwoScoopsMcGee says

justme says

In which case, should we be the least bit surprised that inhabitants of the countries we bomb and invade hate us, Christian or not, and then proceed to go to western countries and bomb us? Both sides are doing terrible things. Adults and children are being killed and maimed everywhere. This has got to stop.

It should be a no-brainer then NOT to let them in. At the very least, not single males.

577 P N Dr Lo R   ignore (1)   2017 May 25, 9:01am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

PeopleUnited says

These aren't the droids you're looking for.

I hope you recognized the sarcasm.

578 Gade   ignore (0)   2017 May 25, 9:55am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

"ordinary christians in India did a lot of killings of muslims during the Indian/Pakistan genocides".
Proof?

580 FP   ignore (1)   2017 May 25, 12:49pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

Gade says

Proof?

Bwahahahaha.

581 PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Jun 18, 8:20pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

justme says

What is the root cause of Christian bomberism, invaderism and regime-change-ism?

When Jesus tells someone to intiate a bombing you will have a case. Until then you might as well understand that this is what Christ said about the enemies:

Matthew 5:44King James Version (KJV)

44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

582 PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Aug 2, 7:09pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

FP says

Patrick says

The first step to solving a problem is to speak honestly about it.

The first step is to recognize what the problem is.

That is what this thread is about.

583 PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 11, 7:55pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Now that the real trolls are gone, any discussion on the association between Islam and violence?
584 Goran_K   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 8:27pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

PeopleUnited says
Now that the real trolls are gone, any discussion on the association between Islam and violence?


The Quran. The Quran is the most misogynist, racist, and brutal text ever produced as a rule set for a religion. It allows for the killing of infidels, the stoning of women, and the enslavement of conquered people and unlike Christianity it never had its 2.0 version, just the original and brutal 1.0 version that is the origin of all Violent Islamic ideology. The Western world and Islam are incompatible.
585 Strategist   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 11, 9:12pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Goran_K says
PeopleUnited says
Now that the real trolls are gone, any discussion on the association between Islam and violence?


The Quran. The Quran is the most misogynist, racist, and brutal text ever produced as a rule set for a religion. It allows for the killing of infidels, the stoning of women, and the enslavement of conquered people and unlike Christianity it never had its 2.0 version, just the original and brutal 1.0 version that is the origin of all Violent Islamic ideology. The Western world and Islam are incompatible.


Hey Patrick....who gets to monitor Islam?
I nominate ApocalypseFuck.
586 PeopleUnited   ignore (2)   2017 Nov 13, 9:36pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Goran_K says
PeopleUnited says
Now that the real trolls are gone, any discussion on the association between Islam and violence?


The Quran. The Quran is the most misogynist, racist, and brutal text ever produced as a rule set for a religion. It allows for the killing of infidels, the stoning of women, and the enslavement of conquered people and unlike Christianity it never had its 2.0 version, just the original and brutal 1.0 version that is the origin of all Violent Islamic ideology. The Western world and Islam are incompatible.


True Christianity is to follow Christ. Look at what He did and emulate it.

True Islam is to follow Mohammed. Look at he did and emulate it.

Following Jesus means to live a life of sacrifice and service to others with a focus on healing.

What can we say about what it means to follow the example of Mohammed?
587 Strategist   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 14, 8:44am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

PeopleUnited says
What can we say about what it means to follow the example of Mohammed?


You follow the example of Mohammad and you end up with ISIS. Even they said they were just following Mohammad's example.
588 anon_6bbed   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 17, 10:33am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Indeed. Islam IS terrorism.

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