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Libbies babbling incoherently as the Ax Man cometh...

By BlueSardine following x   2017 Mar 25, 5:40am 2,939 views   39 comments   watch   quote     share  

ACA repeal was dead before the general election took place.
The Wall was dead before the general election took place.
It was never, ever about that shit.
Evidence the ease with which trump gave up on aca. He never really gave a shit.
Watch how trump gives up on the wall in the coming weeks when funds are shot down by congress.

In case you are wondering, here is the actual prize for the 2016 election.

1 BlueSardine   2017 Mar 25, 5:49am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

Probably another 1-2 conservative supremes over the next 4 years giving the conservatives LOCKDOWN CONTROL over all matters judged FOR THE NEXT 30 YEARS.
ACA...The Wall...just tools used to garner the votes to get to this prize.
This whole election is a redneck jackpot.
you''ll eat knuckles if you be smokin that pot.

2 HEY YOU   2017 Mar 25, 9:13am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

So conservatives on the court didn't shoot down the ACA.
Brilliant conservative appointments. SCOTUS REMORSE?
The Republican potus & CONgress incapable of repealing a law & babbling incoherently.
What were their stupid voters thinking?

No Conservative judge has ever gone against RIGHTWINGNUTZ.

Stupid is strong in Republicans.
We can repeal ACA with one quick vote.
What will Rep cowards do about their ilk not supporting Trumpcare?

3 indigenous   2017 Mar 25, 9:23am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

I disagree, the SCOTUS has been a rubber stamp for congress for nearly 100 years.

It doesn't matter, e.g. the ACA turned into a tax by Roberts. WTF

4 Rew   2017 Mar 25, 9:57am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

"It was never about that shit ..."

... because after nonstop repeal talk for 6 years, we need to move the goal posts onto something else.

The "libbies" now get to twist the knife some. I'm sure the GOP will change the rules to get their SCOTUS confirmation but the political costs are mounting at a staggering rate.

Looking forward to the continual unraveling of Trump. It's the best slow motion car wreck I've ever seen.

5 indigenous   2017 Mar 25, 10:04am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

No Ryan's plan is a bad plan. It still allowed people to buy insurance after they are
sick. The problem is that there are now 20 some million covered under medicaid that weren't covered before. That is a hard door to close...

Rand Paul's plan is much better.

Of course the best plan is to get the government the fuck out of the medical industry period.

6 Rew   2017 Mar 25, 10:08am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

indigenous says

Of course the best plan is to get the government the fuck out of the medical industry period.

Got any examples of successful healthcare models in countries where this is the case?

7 indigenous   2017 Mar 25, 10:13am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        

No, but I will say that I have a heathshare plan that is not connected to the government at all. It cost me $200 a month and covered a recent hospital stay at the best hospital in the area to the tune of 60+k.

Also:

U.S. government entities spend more per-capita on health care than all but two other countries in the world. The two advanced economies with the most economically free health care systems—Switzerland and Singapore—have achieved universal health insurance while spending a fraction of what the U.S. spends.

8 Strategist   2017 Mar 25, 10:26am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

indigenous says

U.S. government entities spend more per-capita on health care than all but two other countries in the world. The two advanced economies with the most economically free health care systems—Switzerland and Singapore—have achieved universal health insurance while spending a fraction of what the U.S. spends.

We should take their help in designing our health care system. We have no fucking clue what we are doing.

9 indigenous   2017 Mar 25, 10:38am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

It is really a case of the lobbying buying off congress.

10 Tenpoundbass   2017 Mar 25, 10:42am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        

Trump gave Paul Ryan the traitor enough rope to hang himself. And the fucking Idiot took it. Then then then(hee hee hoooo) Trump blamed it all on the Liberal dipshits.
Trump's approval rating is throgh the roof today. Pelosi, McCain and that Ryan Creep? Not so much.

he he he stuipd fucking Libtards.

11 Rew   2017 Mar 25, 11:12am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

Tenpoundbass says

Trump's approval rating is throgh the roof today.

Source?

(laughing bunny goes here)

12 indigenous   2017 Mar 25, 11:22am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

The more things change...

13 BlueSardine   2017 Mar 25, 12:18pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        

LRP.
Long Range Planning.
LIberals have a problem with this strategy as it does not sate their desires for instant gratification. That's why nancy did not have enough time to read it. "Just pass the fuckin thing" she menstrated.
Rednecks bloviate with ropey dopey talk which keeps the libbies superiority complex satisfied while behind closed doors conservatives plan for 2035 and beyond as current elections and courtships are being confiscated like an automobile repossession derby on a daily basis...

Rew says

"It was never about that shit ..."

... because after nonstop repeal talk for 6 years, we need to move the goal posts onto something else.

14 prodigy   2017 Mar 25, 7:58pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

This was quite remarkable.
Totally unexpected for Trump to demand a vote, then wash his hands of it afterwards.

BlueSardine says

Evidence the ease with which trump gave up on aca.

15 Strategist   2017 Mar 25, 9:18pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        

Ironman says

Why do you always need the government to bail out your ass?

Our government has always bailed out:
illegals
terrorists
bums
homeless
losers
criminals

16 bob2356   2017 Mar 25, 11:04pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        

Strategist says

Our government has always bailed out:

Banks
Auto makers
Savings and Loans
Defence Contractors
Airplane makers
Airlines
Railroads
The Koch Brothers

You forgot a few.

17 indigenous   2017 Mar 25, 11:09pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

bob2356 says

The Koch Brothers

Do tell.

18 indigenous   2017 Mar 25, 11:10pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

bob2356 says

You forgot a few.

And GM and Warren Buffet

19 BlueSardine   2017 Mar 26, 5:42am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

Long range planning is an essential component of any political strategy.
For the conservative party, lying about positions for years has turned out to be a demonstration that untruths do pay off in the long term, or for whatever time Gorsich will serve.

Ironman says

As usual, his critics aren't looking at the long game.

20 BlueSardine   2017 May 9, 6:06am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

Yeah the supremes are what it's all about.
Every other issue is pure smokescreen.

Ironman says

Another tactical move by Trump- let Obamacare fail under it's own weight, rather than half-ass some band-aid fix- let the fools claim this as some sort of Trump "failure", when in fact Trump is just setting up the long target- Obama and crew themselves;

As usual, his critics aren't looking at the long game. There is more important shit brewing in the background.

21 BlueSardine   2017 May 9, 6:07am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

Senate will put forth completely different health plan, unacceptable by the house. All reps asses will be covered for elections, while letting obamacare die a slow death.

22 AllTruth   2017 May 9, 6:20am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

Trump and his 4 Dimension Chess!

He's so BRILLIANT!

LMAO!

Keep up with the delusions, Trumptards!

#POTUSisBarelyFunctioningRetard

23 BlueSardine   2017 May 9, 7:20am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

Games's already over.
I love the triggered denial of victory!

p=1304308&c=1407277#comment-1407277">AllTruth says

Keep up with the delusions, Trumptards!

24 PaisleyPattern   2017 May 9, 7:20am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

I agree with the idea that Trumps campaign strategy was to get elected by playing to the concerns of portions of the electorate. Like most politicians, his campaign platform was designed to get the votes necessary to win, and didn't necessarily reflect on his intentions once he achieved the office. It makes sense to assume that Trump knows what he is doing and has a plan that he is carrying out. The fact that he won the election is evidence enough that he is a capable strategist . The premise that he is either a bumbling fool, or deranged, is unlikely to be true. More than likely he played to the electorate successfully , while keeping his true agenda to himself and his backers. I continue to think that Trump has the best interests of the United States, as he sees those interests, in mind. He would like to see the United States run effectively. He is a patriot and wants to defend the United States against foreign military and economic interests. He wants American businesses to have the best chance to succeed in global competition. He wants the population of United States to be supported and have opportunities so that they can thrive and contribute to the strength of the nation.

25 BlueSardine   2017 May 9, 8:02am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

I think either little of each, or he really doesn't give a fuck, hates the press, and just does shit to trigger them. He's already rich. He doesn't need the press. His end game is to just fuck with them.

But he is smart enough to surround himself with people that helped him self-correct during the campaign.
The only agenda on the table for the reds was/is the supreme court.
One more pick before 2020 and the reds have the final say on all matters of law for the next generation or two.
That is the one and only true prize.
Every other issue is just background noise designed to mask this agenda...

fraser says

The premise that he is either a bumbling fool, or deranged, is unlikely to be true.

26 StraightYouth   2017 May 9, 1:15pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

Trump recognizes that the media are his enemy, and the ally of his opposition. His goal is to disempower them by exposing their hypocrisy and dishonesty. He accurately has recognized that he will not win their favor by attempting to make peace with them or form an alliance. Trump recognizes it is a power struggle and he intends to crush them whenever possible.

27 iwog   2017 May 9, 1:51pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

StraightYouth says

Trump recognizes that the media are his enemy, and the ally of his opposition. His goal is to disempower them by exposing their hypocrisy and dishonesty. He accurately has recognized that he will not win their favor by attempting to make peace with them or form an alliance. Trump recognizes it is a power struggle and he intends to crush them whenever possible.

Basically a page out of the totalitarian handbook, nearly verbatim. First you discredit the press, then you replace the press, then you fuck the country.

You don't seek to win the favor of the press. That's for citizens to decide. If your positions are justified, making them crystal clear in a way that even a biased press can't misquote is the solution.

Instead we have Donald Trump, who blatantly lies then ends press conferences when direct questions are asked regarding his lies. "OBAMA WIRETAPPED ME!!! So if anyone ever asks me how I know or whether he's still doing it, fuck you because you're biased and this press conference is over!"

Idiocracy.

28 StraightYouth   2017 May 9, 2:30pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

It is obvious to most observant and unbiased people that the media in the US is a tool of the Democratic party, and the global power structure which they are a part of. Watching CNN or MSNBC, you could easily think you were watching Democratic campaign programming. Non stop criticizing of Trump, and distortion of his motives and agenda. Also, their deception and illegality in this regard was clearly evidenced by Donna Brazile being caught secretly giving debate questions to Hillary, and the very minimal coverage this was given in the press. These stations focus almost completely on Democratic policy related topics such as race, sexual identity or the environment, all of which are Democratic Party strategies designed to attract votes.
Trumps policy statements are deliberately distorted and spun by the press, and because the Democrats have a virtual monopoly over the press, Trump has correctly recognized that it is pointless to have his opinions and policy disseminated to the population through this biased filter. Hence his use of Twitter.
Totalitarian regimes also corrupt and control the Media when they seize control of a country. Rarely is there a free press in any state. Global/Democrat power has already consolidated control of the media in the US. Your claim that Trump is first going to "discredit the press, and then replace it" is an interesting distortion of the fact that the press was already bought and paid for years ago, and have clearly discredited themselves. The press is in the process of being replaced by alternative sources of freelance media, enabled by the internet, and not subject to manipulation by the large corporations which control traditional media.
The traditional media has devoted enormous resources towards discrediting Trump based on Russian influence, yet there still is virtually no credible evidence to support the allegations. Another example of the biased traditional
media.

29 iwog   2017 May 9, 2:35pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

StraightYouth says

It is obvious to most observant and unbiased people that the media in the US is a tool of the Democratic party, and the global power structure which they are a part of.

Nope, it's not. It's clearly a for profit industry now that publishes based on what consumers demand, both on the left and the right. This means hard truths that are difficult to swallow don't get published on either side and it also means easily consumable "Gotcha!" journalism has the highest draw and therefore is the biggest priority. Need I remind you that the "liberal" media was beating the war drums harder than anyone during the Iraq atrocity even while most Democrats and nearly all liberals opposed it. How is this a liberal media??

StraightYouth says

Trumps policy statements are deliberately distorted and spun by the press, and because the Democrats have a virtual monopoly over the press, Trump has correctly recognized that it is pointless to have his opinions and policy disseminated to the population through this biased filter. Hence his use of Twitter.

This is bullshit and you know it. How was "Obama wiretapped me!!!" spun by the press?? Even if true, why did Trump end a press conference just because someone asked him if he was still being wiretapped?? Apparently Donald Trump can't eat his own bullshit.

StraightYouth says

The traditional media has devoted enormous resources towards discrediting Trump based on Russian influence, yet there still is virtually no credible evidence to support the allegations. Another example of the biased traditional

media.

Kinda like Whitewater right?

30 StraightYouth   2017 May 9, 3:11pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

It is impossible to watch traditional media and not recognize that they are pro Democrat, anti Trump. It's obvious. Trump was given enormous amounts of coverage during the campaign, and now, because he is controversial and attracted viewers. Trump used his controversial showmanship to take advantage of the medias attraction to drama. The media mistakenly thought they could use Trump to attract viewers while simultaneously, lambasting, misrepresenting, and discrediting him. This strategy comicly backfired, and only served to further discredit the traditional media and expose them for the shills they are.
Regarding the Medias support for the Iraq war, this clearly exposes the true agenda of the Democratic/globalist/ media power structure. The Democratic Party is by no means liberal in the traditional sense, they are tools of global corporate and the industrial military complex, and thus supported this type of war. They use liberal social policies to attract well meaning people to support their party, but their true agenda is to support large global corporations, and US hegemony. In this regard they don't differ much from the Republican Party.Trump clearly represented a legitimate alternative and opposition to this establishment power, as evidenced by the massive resistance he received from both the Democratic and Republican establishment. The Republican Party only reluctantly suuported him when they realized he had a path to win. Trump only reluctantly allied with the Republican establishment to try to implement some of his own agenda.

31 iwog   2017 May 9, 3:14pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

StraightYouth says

It is impossible to watch traditional media and not recognize that they are pro Democrat, anti Trump.

I guess I'll say it again. More than 90% of the news coverage about child molesters is negative. BIAS!!!!!!!!!!

StraightYouth says

Regarding the Medias support for the Iraq war, this clearly exposes the true agenda of the Democratic/globalist/ media power structure.

Which is CLEARLY why the majority of Democrats voted against it. Oh wait...........

StraightYouth says

Trump clearly represented a legitimate alternative and opposition to this establishment power

Trump represents an incompetent, ignorant clown twitter warrior who's also a narcissist and packed his administration with corruption. In fact it's so corrupt, that in the first quarter of his administration most are either being fired or resigning or refusing appointments.

Yeah but the media and all that.........yawn.

32 StraightYouth   2017 May 9, 4:02pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

I think there are easier ways to launder money.

33 StraightYouth   2017 May 9, 4:07pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

Trump was competent enough to win the Presidency, despite enormous opposition and a stacked deck. If he is incompetent, what was Hillary?
Also, Obama and Democratic policy towards Libya, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, etc, isn't exactly "liberal".

34 StraightYouth   2017 May 9, 4:16pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

Strange comment about pedophiles. I'm sure the Media do report accurately on some topics.

35 freespeechforever   2017 May 9, 5:05pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

I can nearly guarantee that "fraser"'above is LKTERALLY a pro-Trump paid propagandist, who probably has 20-30 alternate names, and spins the same pro-Trump, brainless dribble canned responses on at least 50 websites.

I am surprised to see propagandists-for-hire by the Trump Administration making appearances on social media so soon into the Trumptard ASSministration.

36 PaisleyPattern   2017 May 9, 6:33pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

Fraser aka straightyouth here.

I assure you I am not a paid troll. Or any kind of a troll. Just a private citizen sharing my opinion. I'm not necessarily even a Trump supporter per se. Although I have ahigh degree of cynicism and distrust of United States political system and its associated power structures in business and the media, and there are aspects of trumps anti- establishment stance that are appealing to me, I am not naïve enough to believe we are getting anything like the whole truth from the Trump regime either.

37 bob2356   2017 May 10, 4:01am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

StraightYouth says

Trump was competent enough to win the Presidency, despite enormous opposition and a stacked deck.

Trump is excellent has a showman, hustler, and self promoter. The best. But that is not the same as governing and administrating. Trumps developments he actually ran himself were a total clown show, non stop bankruptcies and lawsuits. Once he switched over to selling himself and branding he became really successful.

Anyone who didn't figure out Trumps agenda is a fool. Many of the angry white voters who still believe Trump walks on water are going to be totally screwed. I am in an income bracket that will benefit nicely from Trumps agenda so this is not sour grapes, but a simple observation.

fraser says

there are aspects of trumps anti- establishment stance that are appealing to me,

The Mr. Smith Comes to Washington fantasy? The establishment is there because people like their own politician who brings home the bacon, but hate other people's politicians that just waste money. That very much includes conservatives and libertarians. A libertarian being someone who believes the government spends too much money on other people. They always leave out the last part for some reason.

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