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Hypergamy and the Friend Zone


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2017 Apr 2, 10:00pm   11,167 views  26 comments

by Dan8267   ➕follow (4)   💰tip   ignore  

This SNL sketch nails it.

www.youtube.com/embed/qTlpGxE6deA

And if you think this is an exaggeration, read this article.

The bottom line is that the reason most men are assholes who won't commit is because that works. Men respond to incentives. A lot of women counting on marrying a beta when they reach 35 or 40 are in for a big disappointment. Even if 100% of beta males that age married, there would still be a great shortage of them. It's a math thing.

Personally, I don't think it makes sense to marry any woman over 25, with damn rare exceptions (unicorns), regardless of a man's age. Why would you want to marry the author of the above article?

#genderWars

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1   Patrick   2017 Apr 2, 10:11pm  

Yup, that's how women are. Not a problem once you understand it.

2   Dan8267   2017 Apr 2, 11:58pm  

rando says

Not a problem once you understand it.

But many a man doesn't. Remember when people thought Trump lost the women vote after his pussy grabbing comment came out?

Mark down the date: October 7, 2016, is when Donald Trump lost the presidency.

I’m usually reluctant to play the pundit-prediction game but Independent and Republican women aren’t going to bounce back from this one. Not when the GOP nominee is caught on tape talking about hitting on a married woman “with big phony tits” “like a bitch” and how part of his M.O. is “grabbing pussy” because “when you’re a star” “you can do anything.”

This entire campaign has been an exercise of the electorate being slowly simmered in a pot of boiling water, losing our sense of outrage amid a steady of onslaught insults and lies. But sex and cruelty resonates in a way that financial scandals or demagoguery just don’t.

How'd that prediction work out, The Daily Beast? Oh, Trumps popularity with women just went up because they perceived him as a bad boy.

Women did vote overwhelmingly to elect Clinton, but it was white women who helped hand Trump the presidency, according to Edison national election poll. Overall, 54% of women voted for Clinton, much higher than the 42% of women who voted for Trump. But when the women’s vote is divided by race, it becomes clear that black women actually largely drove the so-called gender gap against Trump.

The majority of non-college educated white women (64%) voted for Trump, while 35% backed Clinton.

Trump’s sexist rhetoric has been well-documented throughout the election; he dismissed a female moderator by suggested she must have had “blood coming out of her wherever,” called for women who have abortions to be punished (then backtracked), bragged about grabbing women “by the pussy”, and was dogged by allegations of sexual assault throughout the campaign. Yet, despite all of this, 45% of college-educated white women voted for Trump.

Black women and black men were, of course, not going to vote for Trump. Eliminating the race element, women voted for Trump in mass because he was a rude alpha male asshole. That's appealing to women, especially for a man of power. One could make the case that Trump is president because of this biological wiring in women.

3   epitaph   2017 Apr 3, 5:10am  

People voted for Trump because Obama was a failure who lied to us and Clinton was clearly not in capacity to do anything important.

4   Dan8267   2017 Apr 3, 7:56am  

epitaph says

People voted for Trump because Obama was a failure who lied to us and Clinton was clearly not in capacity to do anything important.

If lying were a turn off, no one would have voted for Trump or tolerated his first two months in office. If being unqualified for the job were the issue, Trump would not have gotten any votes. So no, your assertions do not explain why white women overwhelmingly voted for Trump.

5   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Apr 3, 8:11am  

That was pretty funny and on target for friendzone behavior. The guy in the skit knows he's a chump getting used like a tampon that was used to wipe an ass in an emergency, but he's letting it happen anyway. At some level friendzone guys know what's going on. They just can't act rationally. They are getting fooled by their hope to eventually score. If there is a lesson to be learned here through analogy with a trump voter, it is the behavior of the men who voted for Trump as much as the women.

We know that women like bad boys. We also know that Dan8267 says

non-college educated white women (64%)

these ones are more likely to go whole hog for bad boys. What I was saying throughout the election cycle is that Trump talking to his supporters was just like the bad boy telling girls that he loves them. The girl believes the crap, because she wants it to be true. The guy voter was believing all of Trump's lies at some level, because he really wanted it to be true. Deep down, he probably knows it's bullshit. That is why the 'take him seriously but not literally' bullshit was born. Somehow, they need to live with the cognitive dissonance.

6   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Apr 3, 8:18am  

I read a couple of funny stories about women and men this morning. You guys might appreciate this one: This one involves a self-centered woman who not only wanted the guy to adopt and take care of a dog so that she could cuddle with it. She also picked the dog and agreed to care for it until he closed on his house. Then she bitched and moaned about and claimed that taking care of the dog was a full time job. Incompetence on so many levels. This guy should run after reading this story. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/soloish/wp/2017/03/27/i-fostered-my-boyfriends-new-dog-and-it-almost-killed-our-relationship/?utm_term=.0d50c0541afa

7   justme   2017 Apr 3, 10:54am  

YesYNot says

This one involves a self-centered woman who not only wanted the guy to adopt and take care of a dog so that she could cuddle with it.

I'd say that is a fairly good interpretation of the article. Author Nina Biagini is a "writer" that, I guess, gets paid to paid to write articles about herself. Reading the article, you can tell she is s piece of work. And look at the comment section. Her readers, almost all female, of course, are completely on her side and fail to notice her obvious self-centeredness.

Run, Carl, run!

8   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Apr 3, 11:22am  

Ha, great vid, Dan

Good news is that shit starts at first contact and if you're aware you can shut it down, or at least cut your losses.

In this video, Tyler calls it "Beta Male Shame" - how women identify "Provider/Sugar Daddies" based on body language/attitude and then constantly steer conversation AWAY from sex. But guys who come on like they don't give a shit, are ONLY there for fun, and go straight for the flirting, sexy talk are perceived as "Lovers" and treated differently.

I call it the "Boyfriend Box" - "I'll maybe get this guy's number and hold him in reserve for Friendzone or many dates at his expense or future potential husband, later, activites"

www.youtube.com/embed/HGEO6ig8WsM

9   Dan8267   2017 Apr 3, 11:53am  

WaPoIsHitler Lipsovitch posts video

My god, that guy looks like Leisure Suit Larry.

10   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Apr 3, 12:30pm  

Dan8267 says

My god, that guy looks like Leisure Suit Larry.

Leisure Suit Larry was the MAN.

11   Ceffer   2017 Apr 3, 1:07pm  

Young women who are sufficiently attractive always keep "orbiting wallets" in static formation. These are the "friend" guys who do all their labor like manservants, pay their way for everything, shower them with gifts, and basically do anything to just hang around with them hoping they will someday regard them as sexual partners. Who knows what biologic treadmill these poor saps are on. Obviously, these sods are just an exploitable resource for the bitches. Of course, the women could be out screwing all manner of passing thugs in the meanwhile.

On the other hand, there are baboon societies where the alpha males attempt to monopolize all of the fertile females for sex. However, observers notice that many of the female baboons have beta and even omega male "friends" who they will have intercourse with on the sly. If an alpha spots them, of course, he beats the shit out of both of them, but it never stops the females and the beta friends from trying to get away with it.

Some young women are masters of providing just enough positive feedback combined with shit testing to keep the men around and paying.

When I was in graduate school, there was one girl who was very skilled at this. She would have breakfast and lunch in the cafeteria, and always had four guys with her. These guys all thought maybe they might "have a chance", even though there were other guys there, too. She had these guys doing all kinds of things for her. My roommate, "George the Sociopath" (he was in fact a low level sociopath) got caught up and was part of her unrequited male harem and even did stuff for her. She gave me some shit testing, too, to join the group, but the whole scene baffled me, and I wasn't that attracted to her. She was really miffed that I wouldn't become one of her orbiting wallets, but I was never the "orbiting wallet" type.

13   Dan8267   2017 Apr 3, 4:33pm  

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

Leisure Suit Larry was the MAN.

Leisure Suit Larry was a beta man desperately trying to get laid and mostly failing while the alphas around him got laid like crazy. Women mostly treated him like crap.

One might make the case that LS Larry was the quintessential beta male desperate for female attention.

14   Dan8267   2017 Apr 3, 4:36pm  

I suspect that the women who do loathe Trump, do so specifically because Trump exposes female nature for what it is, and they don't want to admit that deep down, they do let alpha males, especially ones with high social status like celebrities, grab their pussies. How dare Trump say what we actually do? It's suppose to be a secret! Don't let the beta males know or they might get ideas or give up on serving us.

15   anonymous   2017 Apr 3, 8:16pm  

I'm jerking off to this thread.

16   Patrick   2017 Apr 3, 8:39pm  

Dan8267 says

I suspect that the women who do loathe Trump, do so specifically because Trump exposes female nature for what it is, and they don't want to admit that deep down, they do let alpha males, especially ones with high social status like celebrities, grab their pussies. How dare Trump say what we actually do? It's suppose to be a secret! Don't let the beta males know or they might get ideas or give up on serving us.

There's that, but there's also this: the ones that really loathe him are the ones that will never have their pussies grabbed again.

17   Dan8267   2017 Apr 3, 11:39pm  

rando says

the ones that will never have their pussies grabbed again.

Nobody likes to get dust on their hands.

18   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Apr 4, 7:38am  

just any guy says

I'm jerking off to this thread.

Is it the shirtless guy who does it for you?

19   anonymous   2017 Apr 4, 7:50am  

YesYNot says

just any guy says

I'm jerking off to this thread.

Is it the shirtless guy who does it for you?

Self deprecation

20   ja   2017 Apr 4, 7:54am  

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

Leisure Suit Larry was the MAN.

If you were able to jerked off with a CGA of a woman, you are for sure in the 95% percentile of testosterone male content

Also, a hell of a nerd

21   Dan8267   2017 Apr 6, 8:28am  

SNL followed up with another sketch. This one illustrates how white knights and manginas are just creepy dudes trying to get laid and failing. One of the writers must have recently taken the red pill because these sketches are uncharacteristically honest of SNL regarding social issues the conservative left finds offensive. I hope this change persists.

www.youtube.com/embed/kTMow_7H47Q

22   HEY YOU   2017 Apr 6, 8:47am  

epitaph says

People voted for Trump because Obama was a failure who lied to us and Clinton was clearly not in capacity to do anything important.

Nixon:I'm not a crook.
Reagan: Trickle down.
G.H.W. Bush: Read my lips. No New taxes.
G.W. BUSH: Iraq has WMD.
Trump opens his mouth.

It's OK to be a LYING Republican?

23   Patrick   2017 Apr 6, 9:27am  

Dan8267 says

One of the writers must have recently taken the red pill because these sketches are uncharacteristically honest of SNL regarding social issues the conservative left finds offensive. I hope this change persists.

Yes, absolutely.

You can tell when men become enlightened via the Red Pill. They are no longer afraid to say how things really are.

24   ja   2017 Apr 6, 12:29pm  

HEY YOU says

Nixon:I'm not a crook.

Reagan: Trickle down.

G.H.W. Bush: Read my lips. No New taxes.

G.W. BUSH: Iraq has WMD.

Trump opens his mouth.

I did not have sexual relations with that woman.
'If you like your health care plan, you can keep it'

25   Patrick   2017 Apr 6, 1:10pm  

ja says

I did not have sexual relations with that woman.
'If you like your health care plan, you can keep it'

Good point. Why did HEY YOU exclude only the Democrat presidential lies?

26   Dan8267   2017 Apr 6, 7:06pm  

rando says

ja says

I did not have sexual relations with that woman.

'If you like your health care plan, you can keep it'

Good point. Why did HEY YOU exclude only the Democrat presidential lies?

1. Bill Clinton didn't lie. He answered the question that he was asked and didn't volunteer information to help the Republicans fabricate a sex scandal.
2. Obama didn't lie. He was mistaken. Now you could argue that Obama should be heavily criticized for being wrong about his statement, but it's not reasonable to think he intentionally said something he didn't think was true in this case. However, I'm sure both Bill Clinton and Obama have lied a lot on other occasions.
3. Not all lies are equal. Even if we pretend the two statements of the democratic presidents were lies, they still aren't the same as what the republicans did. Let's examine the consequences of the lies.

Nixon: I'm not a crook.

Nixon ordered a felonious burglary for personal political gain. This was a huge abuse of presidential power and tolerating it would allow future presidents to effectively undermine elections setting up our nation as a republic in name only.

Reagan: Trickle down.

Reagan destroyed the middle class with this lie impoverishing tens of millions of Americans and lowering the quality of life of about 300 million Americans today.

G.H.W. Bush: Read my lips. No New taxes.

This one is actually not a bad lie. Perhaps it's not even a lie. Maybe Bush Sr. actually meant to keep his campaign promise and found later that doing so would devastate America. I'm going to give him a pass on this one.

Bush Sr. was still an awful president and human being who deserves to be ass raped in prison for the rest of his life, but not because of this.

G.W. BUSH: Iraq has WMD.

Bush Jr. slaughtered over a million innocent men, women, children, and unborn babies with this lie. He also vastly increased terrorism and essentially was the reason ISIS rose to power. He also completely destroyed America's credibility as the good guys.

Trump opens his mouth.

Trump's lies have be ridiculous and stupid, but so far they have had no impact. I'm sure that will change.

Bill Clinton: I did not have sexual relations with that woman.

This in no way affected anyone but Hillary. Funny that this crawls up people's asses when Bill Clinton has actually told many lies that have actually affected people.

Obama: 'If you like your health care plan, you can keep it'

The ACA did mean that people with shitty insurance plans that were effectively worthless could not keep them. This is actually a good thing. Paying for the illusion of coverage is bad.

This doesn't mean the ACA is a shitty policy, but this particular aspect of it isn't the shitty part.

To summarize, lies that impoverish hundreds of millions of people or result in mass death are a bit more significant then finding out whether or not some fat chick gave the president a blow job. Why the fuck should a sitting president, or for that matter anyone, have to reveal consensual sexual acts to the entire world? That's the real scandal behind BJ-ghazie.

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