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Vehicle Registration: Interesting Conundrum


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2017 Apr 3, 12:30pm   1,625 views  5 comments

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Hi guys,

I'm interested in buying a classic car with a unique story - 1967 Mustang

The car was originally registered in New York. In 1980, the owner drove the car out to CA. During that trip the car broke down and was towed to the residence of a friend of the Mustang owner. The car has sat in that garage in CA for 37yrs.

Fast forward to today. The owner and the friend have decided to sell the car and split the proceeds. The catch is that the owner no longer has any documentation or pink slip for the car. And they decided that the friend would put a lien sale on the car. This will allow the friend to take possession of the car and the DMV will create new documentation for the car.

As a buyer, I'm concerned about two things:

a.) Lien Sale, I have no experience with this. But the idea is that if a party does work on a car for the owner, but the owner never pays for the work or shows up to pick up the car, the party can lien sale it and become the new owner (the DMV contacts the previous owner by law for notification).

b.) It's an out of state car that's been sitting in CA for 37yrs but hasn't been registered. Even non-op registration carries fees. I'm terrified of taking ownership of this car and learning I have 37yrs of back registration fees to worry about.

It's a unique enough car that I'm intrigued, but have a couple red flags going off in my head, as you an imagine.

Does anyone have experience with this?

Thanks,

BayArea

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1   bob2356   2017 Apr 3, 3:20pm  

You need to talk to DMV and get something from them in writing. .Sounds pretty dicey. In most states you need a paper trail ( bills, notices, registered letters, etc). to do a lien or abandonment.

2   NDrLoR   2017 Apr 3, 3:52pm  

BayArea says

1967 Mustang

In my assessment, the prettiest of the early Mustangs, in fact all cars of about 1965-1968 are nice looking and running. They began building the '67 on the larger Fairlane chassis in order to accommodate the much larger engines that people were demanding and the Falcon chassis couldn't handle--all the way up to 429's. The '68s are virtually identical except for the side-marker lights that marks the beginning of government mandated safety regulations. For instance, a '68 V-8 will probably have a stove connected from its air cleaner to the exhaust manifold to aid in warm-up--the '67 air cleaner doesn't have one and is easily removable. Is this a six or V-8--looks like a six from the side emblem? A 289 or larger would have cubic inches on it.

That same problem is facing a friend in West--a 1957 Pontiac Star Chief station wagon that hasn't been registered in 50 years. The current "owner" bought the car from a man who had owned it about three years without going through the title process. An interested party has told the present owner that he will buy the car only if the seller can get a clear title in his name that can be transferred, probably a tall order and that's in the same state. Your's is probably going to be even more complicated being out of state.

3   BayArea   2017 Apr 3, 4:07pm  

PM, you know your stuff.

The '68 had a host of little changes compared to the '67 but the front/rear side-markers and the thicker seats ont eh '68 were the most obvious.

I agree that the 67-68 was the best looking Mustangs and that span from about 65-70 were gorgeous cars... beautiful lines, single year body designs, just stunning.

My first car was a 1967 Mustang, bright orange 289/C4/8inch. However, the one in question that started the discussion is a 6cyl 200cu-in.

I'm actually planning to do a restomod... modern fuel injected driveline, 6sp transmission, 8.8 rear, aftermarket suspension, and late model brakes... Mostly stock looking from interior and exterior point of view other than wider era correct wheels.

4   bob2356   2017 Apr 3, 5:50pm  

BayArea says

The '68 had a host of little changes compared to the '67 but the front/rear side-markers and the thicker seats ont eh '68 were the most obvious.

Actually the biggest noticeable difference is the 67 has the deep pony on the grill and the 68 has the flat pony. I had a 67 that I had to put a 68 pony emblem on to run ss/b with the 427 since the 427 was only available in the 68 model year. 68's had the 2 spoke energy absorbing steering wheel and shoulder belts. 67's had a 3 spoke wheel and lab belts only.

P N Dr Lo R says

They began building the '67 on the larger Fairlane chassis in order to accommodate the much larger engines that people were demanding and the Falcon chassis couldn't handle--all the way up to 429's.

If I remember right the falcon after 66 was built on a shortened fairlane floor pan, as was the mustang. I do know the engine compartments were almost the same between all 3 cars. I've owned all 3. They never put a big block in the falcons except the 70 falcon which was just a low end rebadged fairlane. But there was certainly room (the idea of room being a bit of a joke for a big block in any of these cars) to do it. I've been very tempted to stuff a really poked 429, like the 557 demon with AL block and heads into a super lightweight 69 falcon. Full cage would be mandatory, I wrinkled the shit out of the c pillors in the stang with a lot less horsepower.

None of these cars had a chassis, they were all unibody.

BayArea says

I'm actually planning to do a restomod... modern fuel injected driveline, 6sp transmission, 8.8 rear, aftermarket suspension, and late model brakes... Mostly stock looking from interior and exterior point of view other than wider era correct wheels.

Nice plan. Would be a lot of fun. You can pull 400+ out of a poked 5.0 without much trouble at all.

5   BayArea   2017 May 4, 9:19am  

bob2356 says

poked 5.0

Anyone who uses that terms is unquestionably a car guy lol

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