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Democrats, Anti-Trumpers Have Putin Derangement Syndrome - PDS - Matt Taibbi
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2017 Apr 6, 5:53am 1,691 views 11 comments
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FNWGMOBDVZXDNW
2017 Apr 6, 7:04am
Most of that makes sense. I agree that the chances of Trump being 'owned' by Putin are pretty small. The chances of him giving the go ahead for hacking are much higher. Hell, his public request for Putin to use hacking to get Hillary's emails was encouragement enough to be troubling.
Here, he totally lost me:
anonymous says
If the party's leaders really believe that Russian intervention is anywhere in the top 100 list of reasons why some 155 million eligible voters (out of 231 million) chose not to pull a lever for Hillary Clinton last year, they're farther along down the Purity of Essence nut-hole than Mark Warner.
Nobody is saying that the reason 155 million voters chose not to vote for HRC is because of Putin. For Putin to swing the election, he only needed to swing on the order of 100K in the right place. I don't understand why people cannot seem to get their head around the idea that there is not one or two or three reasons that Trump won. There were over 100 contributing factors, and you don't have to be in the top 10 to have been a necessary factor. Here's a simple example for you.
Let's say you have 1 gallon of gas and you have to get 16 miles. You could take a Honda Civic or a Toyota Tacoma. You're feeling frisky, so you take the Tacoma and drive 70mph. You come up a tad bit short and have to walk the last 100 yards. You say that you should have driven 60 mph, and you would have made it. Some idiotic asshole says that's not the reason you didn't make it. You didn't make it, because you drove the wrong car. Well, no shit you would have made it if you drove the Civic. But you also would have made it if you drove 60mph. If you don't understand this example, I wonder how you make it through life. If you don't see how this is analogous to an election or any other close result, I still wonder about your decision making or ability. You won't even be able to watch a football game and understand the significance of what happens.
Shaman
2017 Apr 6, 7:28am
There were about 100 reasons the media and establishment created to try to push Hillary to victory despite her extreme unpopularity. Perhaps you could also argue that publishing 10,000 hit pieces on her opponent and releasing illegally obtained audio tape swayed the vote counts in Her favor. But apparently that sort of influence is perfectly acceptable. The extremely debatable and currently unproven assertion that Russian hackers were behind one leak of damaging DNC emails seems like a drop beside the ocean of anti-Trump propaganda unleashed in the months before the public elected him anyway.
The extremely debatable and currently unproven assertion that Russian hackers were behind one leak of damaging DNC emails seems like a drop beside the ocean of anti-Trump propaganda unleashed in the months before the public elected him anyway.
Yes very true, after all there was no anti-Hillary propaganda in the election. Everyone knows that.
WTF do you think happens in elections? Is this your first election some how?
You are saying that you would find it acceptable for Russia's government to influence US elections as long as your candidate wins? If not then what is your objection to letting the investigation run it's course? You can't have it both ways.
It doesn't matter who has "PDS".
They can still BOYCOTT ALL Republicans.
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Gullible,Stupid or BOTH!
Rew
2017 Apr 6, 4:30pm
There was ONE reason why Trump won, Hillary was an absolutely SHITTY candidate that didn't give a crap about the "little" people. Enough people saw that before they went in to pull the lever.... PERIOD.
Actually, Hillary just didn't have a message or compelling reason to be president, and Trump managed to convince people he was an actual civil servant who had their interest in mind. The sad fact is style won over substance and the country will pay dearly for it.
Shaman
2017 Apr 6, 4:37pm
The sad fact is style won over substance
Except that the "substance" Hillary carried with her was a disdain for the "deplorable" half of the population, a thirst for absolute power and wealth, a long history of corruption, and a cunty attitude that varies from barely contained disgust to chittering outbursts of rage.
Oh and she'd been a disastrous Secretary of State, leading the US to engagement in two wars and destroying our diplomatic relationship with one of the other two superpowers, when she wasn't actively engaged in selling favors for money.
So yah, she didn't need help from Putin to lose.she already had help from most of the leaders of western civilization
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You can replace Trump for Hillary and the statement is still equally factual
lostand confused
2017 Nov 7, 10:56am
Whatever the truth about Trump and Russia, the speculation surrounding it has become a dangerous case of mass hysteria. So Michael Flynn, who was Donald Trump's national security adviser before he got busted talking out of school to Russia's ambassador, has reportedly offered to testify in exchange for immunity.
For seemingly the 100th time, social media is exploding. This is it! The big reveal!
I personally would be surprised if this turned out to be the narrative, mainly because we haven't seen any real evidence of it. But episodes like the Flynn story have even the most careful reporters paralyzed. What if, tomorrow, it all turns out to be true?
What if reality does turn out to be a massive connect-the-dots image of St. Basil's Cathedral sitting atop the White House? (This was suddenly legitimate British conspiracist Louise Mensch's construction in The New York Times last week.) What if all the Glenn Beck-style far-out charts with the circles and arrows somehow all make sense?
This is one of the tricks that keeps every good conspiracy theory going. Nobody wants to be the one claiming the emperor has no clothes the day His Highness walks out naked. And this Russia thing has spun out of control into just such an exercise of conspiratorial mass hysteria.
Even I think there should be a legitimate independent investigation – one that, given Trump's history, might uncover all sorts of things. But almost irrespective of what ends up being uncovered on the Trump side, the public prosecution of this affair has taken on a malevolent life of its own.
To describe Sanders followers as unwitting dupes who departed the true DNC faith because of evil Russian propaganda is both insulting and ridiculous. It's also a testimony to the remarkable capacity for self-deception within the leadership of the Democratic Party.
If the party's leaders really believe that Russian intervention is anywhere in the top 100 list of reasons why some 155 million eligible voters (out of 231 million) chose not to pull a lever for Hillary Clinton last year, they're farther along down the Purity of Essence nut-hole than Mark Warner.
Last week saw Donna Brazile and Dick Cheney both declare Russia's apparent hack of DNC emails an "act of war." This coupling seemed at first like political end times: as Bill Murray would say, "dogs and cats, living together."
That no one seems to be concerned about igniting a hot war with nuclear-powered Russia at a time when both countries have troops within "hand-grenade range" of each in Syria other is bizarre, to say the least. People are in such a fever to drag Trump to impeachment that these other considerations seem not to matter. This is what happens when people lose their heads.
There are a lot of people who will say that these issues are of secondary importance to the more important question of whether or not we have a compromised Russian agent in the White House.
But when it comes to Trump-Putin collusion, we're still waiting for the confirmation. As Democratic congresswoman Maxine Waters put it, the proof is increasingly understood to be the thing we find later, as in, "If we do the investigations, we will find the connections."
But on the mass hysteria front, we already have evidence enough to fill a dozen books. And if it doesn't freak you out, it probably should.
More: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/taibbi-putin-derangement-syndrome-arrives-w474771
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