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1 just any guy   2017 May 21, 10:49am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        

I was worried it was a pearl necklace

2 someone else   2017 May 21, 10:50am   ↑ like (4)   ↑ dislike (4)     quote        

It's just so fucking symbolic to put a chain of gold on someone's neck.

"I officially pronounce that you my bitch now."

Theresa May and Pootie also got gold chains, and of course Barry.

3 Fucking White Male   2017 May 21, 11:15am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        

just any guy says

I was worried it was a pearl necklace

They saved that for Ivanka and Milenia.

4 Fucking White Male   2017 May 21, 11:17am   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        

Patrick says

It's just so fucking symbolic to put a chain of gold on someone's neck.

"I officially pronounce that you my bitch now."

Theresa May and Pootie also got gold chains, and of course Barry.

I truly do wonder what the issue is.

Despite the lefts hysterical(and false) claims against fracking, the US has been a beast at hydraulic fracturing and we no longer need anyone else's oil.

So I have no idea why the Saudi's have such a grip on us.

5 someone else   2017 May 21, 11:20am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

Fucking White Male says

So I have no idea why the Saudi's have such a grip on us.

I wish I knew how that worked exactly.

6 TwoScoopsMcGee   2017 May 21, 11:26am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

Fucking White Male says

So I have no idea why the Saudi's have such a grip on us.

Me Neither. I suspect nobody wants to play with their level of investment, in addition to the Oil. I think we have long, long term contracts for massive amounts of oil at a set price that might be in jeopardy.

On the other hand, unlike Obama, Trump did not mince words about radical Islamic terror, said that we don't care what you do but we do care if you export it to us, and most importantly, DID NOT BOW!

7 Strategist   2017 May 21, 12:23pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

Patrick says

Saudi king puts a chain on Trump's neck

It's a tracking collar for dogs.

8 jvolstad   2017 May 21, 1:31pm   ↑ like (3)   ↑ dislike (3)     quote        

Lets hope there wasn't a Realtor emblem on the chain.

9 curious2   2017 May 21, 2:34pm   ↑ like (6)   ↑ dislike (6)     quote        

Patrick says

I wish I knew how that worked exactly.

Nixon's deals with Saudi Arabia initiated a vast web of Saudi investment in the United States, later including reportedly allegedly W's Arbusto oil company. They buy access, influence, loyalty, media, etc.The results have proven disastrous for America. Petrodollar baksheesh flows through conduits protected by attorney client privilege. It's a combination of carrots and sticks: sign up for your cut from the gravy train, or get constantly obstructed by all the other crooked politicians who are getting their cut and doing the paymasters' bidding.

Also, the deals enabled so much deficit spending that a whole generation of government careers came to depend on it, and to believe in it. The Saudis hate atheists even more than the pseudo-"Christians" hate atheists, so the anti-communist Christian crusaders mistook that for a natural alliance. Anti-communists made the same mistake supporting the Nazis. "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!" Some people value their property more than their lives, so they would make any deal to fight communism, even deals with Muslims and Nazis who would kill them.

One interesting possibility though. Since oil prices have fallen, the Saudis have reportedly been spending money faster than they can bring it in. If President Trump puts them in a position where they have to spend money even faster, and on American products (weapons), then he might be trying to drain the Petrodollar swamp by bankrupting them. Alternatively, they are using their purchase agreements to influence the MIC and probably him also. The deals total reportedly around $400 billion, I wonder how much of that finds its way to friends of the President. They are trying to influence each other, and time will tell who wins. As more gas reserves have been found in the Mediterranean, and more fracking happens in America, the Saudis might have difficulty continuing to finance terror in addition to all these new spending deals.

Patrick says

Theresa May and Pootie also got gold chains, and of course Barry.

It's literally called a collar, specifically "The Collar of Abdulaziz Al Saud Medal".

10 someone else   2017 May 21, 3:02pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        

curious2 says

If President Trump puts them in a position where they have to spend money even faster, and on American producfs (weapons), then he might be trying to drain the Petrodollar swamp by bankrupting them. Alternatively, they are using their purchase agreements to influence the MIC and probably him also.

Maybe both are true.

11 TwoScoopsMcGee   2017 May 21, 3:06pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        

curious2 says

As more gas reserves have been found in the Mediterranean, and more fracking happens in America, the Saudis might have difficulty continuing to finance terror in addition to all these new spending deals.

I wonder if the Saudis are realizing their policy of coddling extreme Wahabis and sending the more troublesome ones abroad to teach in Saudi Madrassahs or join Lashkar-i-Taiba and suchlike may be a policy that is no longer functional and becoming too dangerous.

12 Tenpoundbass   2017 May 21, 3:46pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

Listen when King Mullah Allah Daddi Gives you a Gold necklace... YOU TAKE IT!

Trump should have mowed his lawn.

13 Strategist   2017 May 21, 3:54pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

curious2 says

Also, the deals enabled so much deficit spending that a whole generation of government careers came to depend on it, and to believe in it. The Saudis hate atheists even more than the pseudo-"Christians" hate atheists, so the anti-communist Christian crusaders mistook that for a natural alliance. Anti-communists made the same mistake supporting the Nazis.

I wonder what will come first? The Saudis getting civilized, or Saudis going broke?
I think they will go broke before they become civilized, and that could be dangerous for us.

14 CBOEtrader   2017 May 21, 4:41pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

Patrick says

Fucking White Male says

So I have no idea why the Saudi's have such a grip on us.

I wish I knew how that worked exactly.

Is it possible that the personal wealth of the saudi king allows such luxurious gifts as to be impossible for our presidents (average wealth of a few hundred million) to not kiss their asses? They "donated" how many hundred of millions to the Clinton foundation? The saud king gave bill Clinton $1million in cash for his birthday, gave hillary jewelry and a dress, does trump keep that $100k necklace? Is this all it takes to control someone?

15 BayAreaObserver   2017 Jun 6, 2:04am   ↑ like (3)   ↑ dislike (3)     quote        

Last month, President Trump visited Saudi Arabia and his administration announced that he had concluded a $110 billion arms deal with the kingdom. Only problem is that there is no deal. It’s fake news.

contacts in the defense business and on the Hill, and all of them say the same thing: There is no $110 billion deal. Instead, there are a bunch of letters of interest or intent, but not contracts. Many are offers that the defense industry thinks the Saudis will be interested in someday. So far nothing has been notified to the Senate for review. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency, the arms sales wing of the Pentagon, calls them “intended sales.” None of the deals identified so far are new, all began in the Obama administration.

An example is a proposal for sale of four frigates (called multi-mission surface combatant vessels) to the Royal Saudi navy. This proposal was first reported by the State Department in 2015. No contract has followed. The type of frigate is a derivative of a vessel that the U.S. Navy uses but the derivative doesn’t actually exist yet. Another piece is the Terminal High Altitude Air Defense system (THAAD) which was recently deployed in South Korea.

Moreover, it’s unlikely that the Saudis could pay for a $110 billion deal any longer, due to low oil prices and the two-plus years old war in Yemen. President Obama sold the kingdom $112 billion in weapons over eight years, most of which was a single, huge deal in 2012 negotiated by then-Secretary of Defense Bob Gates. To get that deal through Congressional approval, Gates also negotiated a deal with Israel to compensate the Israelis and preserve their qualitative edge over their Arab neighbors. With the fall in oil prices, the Saudis have struggled to meet their payments since.

You will know the Trump deal is real when Israel begins to ask for a package to keep the Israeli Defense Forces’ qualitative edge preserved. What is coming soon is a billion-dollars deal for more munitions for the war in Yemen. The Royal Saudi Air Force needs more munitions to continue the air bombardment of the Arab world’s poorest country.

Finally, just as the arms deal is not what it was advertised, so is the much-hyped united Muslim campaign against terrorism.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/markaz/2017/06/05/the-110-billion-arms-deal-to-saudi-arabia-is-fake-news/

16 BayAreaObserver   2017 Jul 21, 1:12pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        

Trump: The US is ready to leave one of its most important military bases if the Gulf crisis worsens

According to President Donald Trump, who has publicly backed the Saudi-led effort and criticized Qatar, relocating from Al Udeid would be no significant obstacle.

Trump was asked about the effect of the crisis on Al Udeid during an interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network that aired on July 12.

"If we ever have to leave" Al Udeid, he said, "we would have 10 countries willing to build us another one, believe me, and they will pay for it."

Trump did try to downplay potential conflict with Doha, saying, "we are going to have a good relationship with Qatar. We are not going to have problems with the military base." But, he said, "if we ever needed another military base, you have other countries that would gladly build it."

When asked this week about the situation around Al Udeid, Pentagon spokesman Navy Capt. Jeff Davis said the US has weighed other basing options as part of what he described has standard operational planning.

"I think any time you are doing military operations, you are always thinking ahead to Plan Bs and Plan Cs ... we would be remiss if we didn't do that," he said, according to Military Times. "In this case, we have confidence that our base in Qatar is still able to be used."

More: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-us-ready-leave-one-222043272.html

American Taxpayers - Get ready for another yuugggeee bill.

17 HEY YOU   2017 Jul 21, 6:47pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

Patrick says

I wish I knew how that worked exactly.

"Follow the money."

18 RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks   2017 Jul 21, 7:26pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        

my guess is Saudi has been vital in covert wars vs Russia.

19 Strategist   2017 Jul 21, 7:57pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        

BayAreaObserver says

Trump: The US is ready to leave one of its most important military bases if the Gulf crisis worsens

According to President Donald Trump, who has publicly backed the Saudi-led effort and criticized Qatar, relocating from Al Udeid would be no significant obstacle.

Trump was asked about the effect of the crisis on Al Udeid during an interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network that aired on July 12.

"If we ever have to leave" Al Udeid, he said, "we would have 10 countries willing to build us another one, believe me, and they will pay for it."

Trump did try to downplay potential conflict with Doha, saying, "we are going to have a good relationship with Qatar. We are not going to have problems with the military base." But, he said, "if we ever needed another military base, you have other countries that would gladly build it."

LOL. This is Trump telling the Qatari's........"Look you assholes, we have decided to support the SA Sunnis in their fight against the fucking Iranian Shiites. Stop supporting the Iranians, and do as you are told, or else we will withdraw our military base from your country, and leave you to the mercy of the Sunnis. Do you understand?"

20 Heraclitusstudent   2017 Jul 21, 10:56pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

He's bowing, right?

21 Heraclitusstudent   2017 Jul 21, 11:05pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        

The Saudi's have a large sovereign wealth fund influencing markets (like ~ $700 billions, treasuries in particular) and an influential position in the oil market. They are also an "ally" against Iran and Russia, and at least neutral with regard to Israel within the middle east.
You don't want to piss them off.
This being said what you can sink the oil market, and watch them struggle to monetize what oil they have left before renewables take over oil in the next few decades.
The entire idea of exporting extreme religion is also silly and fragile in the face of modernity.
They will have what they deserve in time.

22 BayAreaObserver   2017 Jul 22, 3:22am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

Strategist - this also sounds like Trump telling his base Mexico will pay for the wall....anyone want to take bets on who gets stuck with the bill if the base gets moved ?

23 bob2356   2017 Jul 22, 5:24am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        

BayAreaObserver says

Strategist - this also sounds like Trump telling his base Mexico will pay for the wall....anyone want to take bets on who gets stuck with the bill if the base gets moved ?

Not trumps base, very few of them pay taxes. Most are on the blue state to red state money train complaining all the way about government spending.

24 BayAreaObserver   2017 Sep 8, 1:57am   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
When It Comes to the War in the Greater Middle East, Maybe We’re the Bad Guys ...

The moment our nation puts any PFC Anderson in harm’s way, thousands of miles and light years from Kansas, there had better be a damn good reason for it, a vital, tangible national interest at stake. At the very least, this country better be on the right side in the conflicts we’re fighting.

The Wrong Side

It’s long been an article of faith here: the United States is the greatest force for good in the world, the planet’s “indispensable nation.” But what if we’re wrong? After all, as far as I can tell, the view from the Arab or African “street” tells a different story altogether. Americans tend to loathe the judgments of foreigners, but sober strategy demands that once in a while we walk the proverbial mile in the global shoes of others. After all, almost 16 years into the war on terror it should be apparent that something isn’t working. Perhaps it’s time to ask whether the United States is really playing the role of the positive protagonist in a great global drama.

Keep in mind that the war for the Greater Middle East -- and I fought in it myself both in Iraq and Afghanistan -- is just the latest venture in the depressing annals of Washington’s geo-strategic thinking since President Ronald Reagan’s administration, along with the Saudis and Pakistanis, armed, funded, and supported extreme fundamentalist Afghan mujahedeen rebels in a Cold War struggle with the Soviet Union that eventually led to the 9/11 attacks. His administration also threw money, guns, and training -- sometimes illegally -- at the brutal Nicaraguan Contras in another Cold War covert conflict in which about 100,000 civilians died.

Boundless Hypocrisy

Maybe it’s because most Americans just aren’t paying attention or maybe we’re a nation of true believers, but it’s clear that most of us still cling to the idea that our country is a beacon of hope for the planet. Never known for our collective self-awareness, we’re eternally aghast to discover that so many elsewhere find little but insincerity in the promise of U.S. foreign policy. “Why do they hate us,” Americans have asked, with evident disbelief, for much of this century. Here are just a few hints related to the Greater Middle East:

Much More: 10-15 minutes if you read carefully and digest the information and access some of the sub links. http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/176323/tomgram%3A_danny_sjursen%2C_whose_side_are_you_on/#more
About the author: Major Danny Sjursen, a TomDispatch regular, is a U.S. Army strategist and former history instructor at West Point. He served tours with reconnaissance units in Iraq and Afghanistan. He has written a memoir and critical analysis of the Iraq War, Ghost Riders of Baghdad: Soldiers, Civilians, and the Myth of the Surge. He lives with his wife and four sons in Lawrence, Kansas. Follow him on Twitter at @Skeptical_Vet.
25 APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE   2017 Sep 8, 5:27am   ↑ like (3)   ↑ dislike (3)     quote        
This is a tradition among American presidents to get used to having their heads pulled down to the Saudi king's crotch to suck the royal dick while the monarch advices, "BITCH! CAMEL! CUNT! YOU! AMERICAN! DOG! KING! FUCK! YOUR! DOG! FACE!"

George W. Bush reportedly responded by giggling and replying, "I love you, too, Mommee!"
26 TwoScoopsMcGee   2017 Sep 8, 6:07pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
BayAreaObserver says
The moment our nation puts any PFC Anderson in harm’s way, thousands of miles and light years from Kansas, there had better be a damn good reason for it, a vital, tangible national interest at stake. At the very least, this country better be on the right side in the conflicts we’re fighting.
Aren't you glad Hillary the Hostile didn't become President?

PFC Snuffy really dodged a bullet there.
27 curious2   2017 Sep 8, 6:39pm   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
BayAreaObserver says
Muslim campaign against terrorism.

KSA defines terrorism to include anything that calls into question the fundamentals of Islam, including blasphemy and especially atheism. Worldwide, huge numbers of Muslims (including KSA, Pakistan, Islamic State, and Islamic Sharia patrols) are deadly serious about killing blasphemers, including especially atheists.

Islam is fundamentally incompatible with western liberty. Those who would spread hijrah to the west are committing the worst form of treason, aiding an enemy of both the USA and the Enlightenment that provided the foundation for the Republic.

Heraclitusstudent says
He's bowing, right?

Some might say he's bending over.
28 Strategist   2017 Sep 8, 7:45pm   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
curious2 says

KSA defines terrorism to include anything that calls into question the fundamentals of Islam, including blasphemy and especially atheism. Worldwide, huge numbers of Muslims (including KSA, Pakistan, Islamic State, and Islamic Sharia patrols) are deadly serious about killing blasphemers, ...


Can anyone give me even one good reason why, as an atheist, I would not want Islam destroyed?
29 BayAreaObserver   2017 Sep 13, 3:28pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Saudi calls for social media informants decried as 'Orwellian'

(Reuters) - Saudi Arabia has urged its people to report subversive comments spotted on social media via a phone app, a move denounced by a human rights watchdog as “Orwellian”.

The appeal, announced on a Twitter account run by the interior ministry late on Tuesday, coincides with an apparent crackdown on potential government critics and a call by exiled opposition figures for demonstrations.

“When you notice any account on social networks publishing terrorist or extremist ideas, please report it immediately via the application #We‘re_all_security”, it said, referring to a mobile phone app launched last year to enable civilians to report traffic violations and burglaries.

Hours later, the public prosecutor tweeted a section of the kingdom’s terrorism law which states: “Endangering national unity, obstructing the Basic Law of governance or some of its articles, and harming the state’s reputation or status are terrorist crimes.”

More: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-security-arrests/saudi-calls-for-social-media-informants-decried-as-orwellian-idUSKCN1BO1K9?il=0
30 Ceffer   2017 Sep 13, 3:38pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Makes Trump look like a pasty white Mr. T on a bad hair day.
31 TwoScoopsMcGee   2017 Sep 13, 3:57pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
BayAreaObserver says
The appeal, announced on a Twitter account run by the interior ministry late on Tuesday, coincides with an apparent crackdown on potential government critics and a call by exiled opposition figures for demonstrations.


Techarchs in the USA already do that to those who oppose Hormone Denialists.
32 BayAreaObserver   2017 Sep 13, 4:24pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
@TwoScoops - might start to be a thing over here as well in the broader arena.

Transylvania University Student Targeted By Fellow Student For Deportation.

college senior in Kentucky was targeted on Facebook by a fellow student for deportation. The student, an undocumented citizen and recipient of Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA), began seeking help Sunday from individuals through YouTube after her university allegedly did nothing to help.

Paola Garcia, 21, who attends Transylvania University (TU) in Lexington, Kentucky, claimed the college didn't attempt to help her when she reported the incident. Officials allegedly believed the post, which was published by student Taylor Ragg in late August, doesn't violate TU's nondiscrimination policy.

"Everyone go report this illegal at my school bragging about breaking the law," Ragg said in a Facebook post.

The post was published in a racial hate group on Facebook called the Tenth Crusade Enthusiasts. Garcia claims she's received numerous threats on social media from members of the group, which allegedly included pictures of a group member filling out an illegal immigrant tip form to Homeland Security.

http://www.ibtimes.com/transylvania-university-student-targeted-fellow-student-deportation-2589494

Fun and games - American turning on illegals first, than each other.
33 APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE   2017 Sep 13, 6:48pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
They chased out the photographers when the king stuffed dick into Trump face

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