Sessions undermining Trumps 2020 reelection bid
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1   errc   ignore (2)   2017 Jun 13, 12:44pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Even trying to be smart on crime hasn't drastically reduced drug arrests. In 2014, an estimated 11,2015,833 people were arrested, approximately 1,551,231 of them for drug crimes, which makes for 4,277 drug arrests every day. But that's not enough for Sessions; he wants more people charged, preferably by the U.S. attorneys who work for him, convicted and sentenced to the maximum penalty.

Simple possession is a misdemeanor punishable by up to a year in prison under federal law – the first time someone gets caught. The second charge is a felony with a mandatory minimum of 15 days and a maximum of three years' imprisonment.

The places where this is happening the most – and where the most arrests can be made – are counties that voted overwhelmingly for Trump, a Pennsylvania State University researcher discovered shortly after the election. One might argue that people who have only witnessed – and not been a part of – the opioid crisis voted for a law and order administration to solve the drug problem, but the numbers make it hard to believe that Trump's supporters are immune to the addiction epidemics taking place around them.

Take Mingo County, West Virginia, a community of about 25,000 people where 84 percent of voters supported Trump and, over 6 years, 780 million doses of oxycodone were sold. So many pills flooded the community that every adult in the county could have become an addict. We are foolish to assume that support for Trump and opiate addiction can't overlap.

2   errc   ignore (2)   2017 Jun 13, 12:45pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

62,000+ Americans will die of opiate overdose in 2017. How many Americans will die at the hands of Islam? Seems that Christian Sharia, anti-freedom policy, is much more harmful

3   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2017 Jun 13, 12:51pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

That is Congress. DOJ, police etc just enforce existing law. Decriminalization starts with congress and Trump has to sign it. That is the one area I am very disappointed, however no dem has come forward that they would do that in their platform.

4   errc   ignore (2)   2017 Jun 13, 1:04pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

lostand confused says

That is Congress. DOJ, police etc just enforce existing law. Decriminalization starts with congress and Trump has to sign it. That is the one area I am very disappointed, however no dem has come forward that they would do that in their platform.

You're right. It's the Dems fault lmao

However, Bernie ran as a Dem, and atop his platform was ending the Failed Losers War on Drugs, in order to restore Law and Order, Make America Great Again (hemp was the most important crop in this country for over 150 years, many of the Founding Fathers grew it), and make the citizens safe again.

Everyone knows that the greatest danger to out Republic is continuing the Failed War on Drugs. Not only is its dollar cost bankrupting us all, but THE SEVERED BOND OF TRUST between the citizens and law enforcement, puts us all in danger and makes it impossible for them to police effectively.

5   errc   ignore (2)   2017 Jun 13, 1:13pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

That is Congress. DOJ, police etc just enforce existing law.

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How do you figure? The existing laws are in conflict.

Trump and Sessions Federal Government archaic laws not only cause great harm, hinder Freedom, and go against the will of The People , They cause far more death and suffering than every Islamic terrorist in history. They also make it impossible for law and order. They also run counter to Science. They also harm Millions of domestic jobs.

More than half of the States citizens have voted to put themselves on the opposite side of The Failed Losers war.

How do you reconcile your tacit support for actions more harmful than Islamic terrorism?

6   APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE   ignore (5)   2017 Jun 13, 3:47pm   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Oxycodone should be available in 55 gallon drums at WalMart. Anyone with a genetic proclivity to addict to it and abuse it would be out of the gene pool within days and the 'problem' would disappear inside of a couple of generations.

And the manufacturers would clean up.

Win-Win!

7   Tenpoundbass   ignore (6)   2017 Jun 13, 5:35pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Sessions pissed on the whole goddamend stupid ass committee and all they could do was interrupt him, time and time and time and time again, while he did it.
because...
DAY GOT NUTIN!

8   bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Jun 13, 8:30pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

errc says

62,000+ Americans will die of opiate overdose in 2017. How many Americans will die at the hands of Islam? Seems that Christian Sharia, anti-freedom policy, is much more harmful

If you really want to do something about the opiate epidemic we should give Afghanistan back to the Taliban. They has opium production down to almost nothing. Bush somehow didn't know the most of our northern alliance allies were drug dealers also. What could possibly go wrong with putting the foxes in charge of the hen house.

9   CBOEtrader   ignore (1)   2017 Jun 13, 8:37pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

bob2356 says

errc says

62,000+ Americans will die of opiate overdose in 2017. How many Americans will die at the hands of Islam? Seems that Christian Sharia, anti-freedom policy, is much more harmful

If you really want to do something about the opiate epidemic we should give Afghanistan back to the Taliban. They has opium production down to almost nothing. Bush somehow didn't know the most of our northern alliance allies were drug dealers also. What could possibly go wrong with putting the foxes in charge of the hen house.

Yup. Then Obama followed with 8 years of war using the exact same flawed regime change goal.

The republican base has been voting against neocons ever since. When will the democrat base learn not to vote for the Obama/Clinton neocons? The left is a bit slow

10   errc   ignore (2)   2017 Jun 13, 9:08pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

The republican base has been voting against neocons ever since

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What have they been voting for?

11   bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Jun 14, 3:52am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

CBOEtrader says

The republican base has been voting against neocons ever since.

Now that's really funny. What makes it funnier is I'm sure you actually believe it's true.

12   CBOEtrader   ignore (1)   2017 Jun 14, 4:32am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

errc says

The republican base has been voting against neocons ever since

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What have they been voting for?

Trump, libertarians, tea party types, etc... Notice how well Jeb Bush did in the primaries.

Compare that to the left neocons like Clinton and Obama who the dems love.

The left is the party of neocons today. Period.

13   joeyjojojunior   ignore (1)   2017 Jun 14, 4:50am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

The Dem base voted for Sanders. So, I'm not sure where you're going with this unless you think Sanders is a neocon.

14   bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Jun 14, 5:30am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

CBOEtrader says

errc says

The republican base has been voting against neocons ever since

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What have they been voting for?

Trump, libertarians, tea party types, etc... Notice how well Jeb Bush did in the primaries.

Want to name all the neocons that have been voted out of congress and replaced by someone who isn't a neocon interventionist? That will be a very very short list.

15   BlueSardine   ignore (1)   2017 Jun 14, 6:19am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

So what is your projection when opiates are decriminalized?
More, less, the same?

errc says

62,000+ Americans will die of opiate overdose in 2017.

16   errc   ignore (2)   2017 Jun 14, 7:13am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

I don't think they will be decriminalized. There's so many Failed Losers in government: Law Enforcement, Judges, probation officers, lawyers, politicians , who couldn't work a real job with any sort of value-add, that rely on the Failed War against the Citizens . They will never allow their horrible jobs program to end. So society, and freedom, pay the ultimate price, and untold suffering will continue.

But hey, at least dumb fuck Christian Republicans are happy, to sit by idly and watch all the suffering. Misery loves company

17   CBOEtrader   ignore (1)   2017 Jun 14, 9:08am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

joeyjojojunior says

The Dem base voted for Sanders. So, I'm not sure where you're going with this unless you think Sanders is a neocon.

Yup, Bernie is to the left what the tea party is to the right.

He is a symbol of a new direction as compared to the neocons on the left.

18   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (1)   2017 Jun 14, 10:48am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

errc says

Sessions undermining Trumps 2020 reelection bid

What 2020 election?

19   BayAreaObserver   ignore (1)   2017 Jun 21, 4:09pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Attorney General Jeff Sessions appears not to understand the most basic cost of the drug policy he recommends: the guarantee of violent crime.

During President Ronald Reagan’s first inaugural address, he declared that “in this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.”

The populist right would do well to apply that formulation to the street violence associated with the drug trade. The War on Drugs is a decades-old federal effort that has failed as consistently and completely as any government initiative in American history. A generation has passed since National Review declared it irrevocably lost. Yet Attorney General Jeff Sessions, America’s highest-ranking law enforcement official, doesn’t even grasp the most obvious tradeoff that prohibitions are making.

“Drug trafficking is an inherently violent business,” he declared in a recent Washington Post op-ed. “If you want to collect a drug debt, you can’t, and don’t, file a lawsuit in court. You collect it by the barrel of a gun.” Yet marijuana is a drug, and in California, Oregon, Washington, Colorado, and beyond, dispensaries operating openly in neighborhoods including mine traffic in pot while deploying lawyers, not gun barrels. Other drug trafficking is violent for the same reason liquor trafficking was violent during Prohibition: because of the inherent violence of black markets, not anything inherent to drugs. The honest, informed prohibitionist acknowledges that his preferred policy is inseparable from ineradicable black markets in narcotics, which have fueled street violence throughout the War on Drugs.

But Sessions wants the public to believe that doubling down on the drug war will reduce street violence. “Federal drug offenders include major drug traffickers, gang members, importers, manufacturers and international drug cartel members,” he notes later in his op-ed, urging harsher penalties for those who possess drugs with an intent to sell. In fact, without the black markets created by drug policy in nations like the United States, neither criminal traffickers nor the black market importers nor drug cartels would exist. Criminal gangs would likely endure, but as after the repeal of alcohol prohibition, they would wield less power and maim or kill fewer people.

Would the blessedly reduced street violence that legalization or decriminalization would produce coincide with a significant increase in drug abuse, addiction, and overdose deaths?

That depends on the drug....

More: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/06/drug-prohibition-fuels-violent-crime-on-americas-streets/530895/

20   HEY YOU   ignore (7)   2017 Jun 21, 11:52pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Kill everyone that uses drugs.
HEY FUCKER! DROP THAT ASPIRIN!

21   errc   ignore (2)   2017 Jun 22, 4:34am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

https://www.google.com/amp/www.newsweek.com/trumps-re-election-2020-campaign-hotel-ethics-charity-ivanka-washington-628130%3Famp%3D1

It's begun. Can you blame him? Now that it's obvious to everyone that Trump is a Failed Loser more likely to flood the swamp than to drain it, and he's worthless at getting anything accomplished; no wall, no repeal Obamacare etc, what better way could he spend his time after only five months in office, by campaigning!

22   BayAreaObserver   ignore (1)   2017 Jun 22, 4:45am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

errc - Not sure if you have seen this but currently running on the History Channel is a new series called "America's War on Drugs". Part IV premiers tonight or it might have been last night. Here's a link, you should be able to catch all episodes. Worth watching and or recording to watch later....Clinton, NAFTA, CIA, Bush - they're all covered.

http://www.history.com/shows/americas-war-on-drugs

23   BayAreaObserver   ignore (1)   2017 Jun 25, 3:03pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

@errc - per my comment from the 22nd on the History Channel series now running. History Channel tells stunning secret story of War on Drugs – from the beginning it was a political war on people

The History Channel is showing a new four-part series called America’s War on Drugs. Not only is it an important contribution to recent American history, it’s also the first time U.S. television has ever told the core truth about one of the most important issues of the past 50 years.

That core truth is: The War on Drugs has always been a pointless sham. For decades the federal government has engaged in a shifting series of alliances of convenience with some of the world’s largest drug cartels. So while the U.S. incarceration rate has quintupled since President Richard Nixon first declared the war on drugs in 1971 (see chart above), top narcotics dealers have simultaneously enjoyed protection at the highest levels of power in America.

On the one hand, this shouldn’t be surprising. The voluminous documentation of this fact in dozens of books has long been available to anyone with curiosity and a library card. Yet somehow, despite the fact the U.S. has no formal system of censorship, this monumental scandal has never before been presented in a comprehensive way in the medium where most Americans get their information: TV.

That’s why America’s War on Drugs is a genuine milestone. We’ve recently seen how ideas that once seemed absolutely preposterous and taboo — for instance, that the Catholic Church was consciously safeguarding priests who sexually abused children, or that Bill Cosby may not have been the best choice for America’s Dad — can after years of silence finally break through into popular consciousness and exact real consequences. The series could be a watershed in doing the same for the reality behind one of the most cynical and cruel policies in U.S. history.

That this series exists at all shows that we’re at a tipping point with this brazen, catastrophic lie. We have to push hard enough to knock it over.

Episode 1 — Acid, Spies, & Secret Experiments

Episode 2 — Cocaine, Cartels, & Crack Downs

Episode 3 — Gangs, Prisons, & Meth Queens (requires sign-in with your cable TV provider)

Episode 4 — Heroin, Terrorists, & Kings of Pain (requires sign-in with your cable TV provider)

More: http://www.aei.org/publication/history-channel-tells-stunning-secret-story-of-war-on-drugs-from-the-beginning-it-was-a-political-war-on-people/

24   errc   ignore (2)   2017 Jun 26, 8:07pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Thanks for the reminder, I've heard this is a good watch. Going to watch episode 1 now


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