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Hitler learned much from Democrats

By Quigley following x   2017 Jul 31, 9:01am 3,195 views   67 comments   watch   quote     share  


"The notion that Hitler learned anything—anything at all—from the Democratic Party here in the U.S. seems, on the face of it, surprising if not incredible. In reality, Hitler learned a great deal from the Democrats and from American progressives. He got some of his core policy strategies from them. Moreover, progressives of the time recognized their influence on Hitler and were proud of that fact.
Why, then, haven’t we previously heard a word about this? Why isn’t it mentioned in any of the history textbooks? How come no one in the media ever talks about this? Movies and documentaries about Hitler are notably silent on the topic. The reason, of course, is that we are victims of the big lie.
Why, then, haven’t we previously heard a word about this? Why isn’t it mentioned in any of the history textbooks? How come no one in the media ever talks about this? Movies and documentaries about Hitler are notably silent on the topic. The reason, of course, is that we are victims of the big lie.
The big lie, as Hitler himself once noted, is a lie so big that it is difficult to get one’s head around it. People are accustomed to small lies, which is why they can detect them. This, however, is a lie so big that it doesn’t merely conceal the close connection between Hitler and the left; it also pretends that Hitler was a “right winger” and that his true American descendants are Trump and the Republican Party.

Big lies don’t just require gullible people; they also require powerful cultural institutions like academia, Hollywood, and the media to help sustain them. Progressive Democrats dominate these institutions, which is why they have been able to get away with a big lie like this one. They have not merely covered their tracks; they have virtually foisted the fascist label on the political right.

The real fascists, however, knew that they were on the political left. Mussolini—the original fascist leader, who came to power a decade before Hitler—was a Marxist who saw fascism as the most effective way to implement socialism. Hitler was so committed to socialism that he changed the name of the German Workers Party to the National Socialist German Workers Party. As historian Anthony James Gregor points out, all the original founders of fascism—in Italy, in Germany, in England and in France—were socialists and leftists.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/07/31/dinesh-dsouza-hitler-learned-democrats/

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28 iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Jul 31, 10:33pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Quigley says

You sir, are disingenuous!

Example?

I'm going to guess that you think I'm disingenuous for not believing a non-riot in Los Angeles is proof that THE DEMOCRATS are trying to bring in lots more rapeugees.

I think this is bloody ridiculous but I think that is what you were trying to convey.

30 iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Jul 31, 11:26pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

curious2 says

So many comments, so few links. I wonder if ppl will even remember what you were arguing about after recent events fade from memory.

I know what happened in LA and it represents THE DEMOCRATS about as much as a KKK rally represents THE REPUBLICANS. Or for that matter, an alt-right "riot" in Berkeley that has also apparently faded from memory. At least there it was a legitimate riot.

Spare me the nonsense argument that it was only antifa.

31 curious2   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 1, 6:16am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

iwog says

THE DEMOCRATS

"Congressional Democrats seek to repeal Trump's refugee travel ban"

Whatever else you might think of President Trump, he deserves credit for speaking candidly about Islam and opposing hijrah.

iwog says

Spare me the nonsense argument that it was only antifa.

I'm not sure what to make of that assertion. I had not made what you are now calling a "nonsense" argument, but your video did suggest that rioting came mainly from the left including AntiFa, and elected Democrats (e.g. in Berkeley and San Jose) tended reportedly to side with rioters and against supporters of President Trump. I will leave you to argue "nonsense" with yourself.

The original Nazi-Muslim axis speaks for itself: Hitler and his supporters including the Muslim Grand Mufti knew their ideologies were similar, and 100k European Muslims joined the Nazi SS largely for that reason, and many distinguished themselves with their enthusiastic murders in the name of Islamic/Nazi ideology. As for contemprary relevance, the censorship (e.g. KPFA kicking Richard Dawkins off public radio) reanimates the Wilsonian tradition. Elected Democrats demand hijrah, and do not tolerate dissent regarding their suddenly sacred Islamic doctrine. Democrats would do better to remember Democratic-Republican party leaders and the lessons of the Barbary Wars, e.g. John Quincy Adams.

32 iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 1, 7:38am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

curious2 says

I'm not sure what to make of that assertion. I had not made what you are now calling a "nonsense" argument, but your video did suggest that rioting came mainly from the left including AntiFa, and elected Democrats (e.g. in Berkeley and San Jose) tended reportedly to side with rioters and against supporters of President Trump. I will leave you to argue "nonsense" with yourself.

Show me a single example of any media source speaking favorably about Antifa.

33 Dan8267   ignore (3)   2017 Aug 1, 8:04am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

iwog says

Show me a single example of any media source speaking favorably about Antifa.

Anonymous Lesbian Blogger Weekly has a favorable article about them.

34 Onvacation   ignore (0)   2017 Aug 1, 8:31am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

iwog says

Show me a single example of any media source speaking favorably about Antifa.

Quick google search revealed:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/psmag.com/.amp/news/antifascists-have-become-the-most-reasonable-people-in-america

http://www.dailycal.org/2017/04/18/antifa-presence-helped-defend-communities/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wired.com/2017/02/neo-nazis-face-new-foe-online-irl-far-left-antifa/amp/

Now you can change your question to
iwog says

Show me a single example of any MAJOR media source speaking favorably about Antifa.

35 curious2   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 1, 8:54am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

iwog says

Show me a single example of any media source speaking favorably about Antifa.

You're changing the subject, and no.

36 Goran_K   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 1, 8:58am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

iwog says

False. It's not the Democrats who passed NAFTA, most Democrats opposed it. It's not the Democrats who created "right to work" states, most Democrats opposed it. It's not Democrats who deregulated the banking industry, most Democrats opposed it. It's only Democrats who raise the minimum wage. It's only Democrats who talk about the rich paying a lower tax rate than the poor and try to pass remedies. It's only Democrats who opposed bankruptcy "reform". It's only Democrats who reduce military spending. It's only Democrats who pass work projects like the stimulus bill. It's only Democrats who supported drug importation from Canada. I could go on all day.

Sure there are a few Democrats who drink the Kool Aid and go along with Republican stupidity. There are also some Democrats who have bought into social justice nonsense and this needs to be opposed. However while there is a cancer in the left that needs fixing, the right is all cancer. Republicans are all cancer. They...

There are literally so many half-truths in this paragraph, it's hard to cover them all.

- It's not the Democrats who passed NAFTA, most Democrats opposed it - Rank: Half Truth: It was actually evenly split in the senate with a slight nudge towards support, 27 Democrats YEA, 26 Democrats NAY. Not to mention 101 YEA votes from House Democrats vs 132 yea votes from House Republicans, not exactly a huge difference there. Clinton signed it into law, that's a fact. He could have easily veto'd it. Why didn't he do that? Also the Democrats who opposed NAFTA were elected overwhelmingly from rust belt states who supported Democrats for decades afterwards until 2016 when they flipped Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania RED. It's clear who THEY BLAME for what NAFTA has done to their jobs.

- It's not Democrats who deregulated the banking industry, most Democrats opposed it. - Rank: Half Truth Gramm–Leach–Bliley, which is seen as the catalyst for giving the banks the power to help ruin the economy in the 2000s was signed into law with solid House Democrat support (155 YEAS vs 51 NAYS), not much support from Dem Senators, but ultimately signed into law by Bill Clinton who said:

Today I am pleased to sign into law S. 900, the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. This historic legislation will modernize our financial services laws, stimulating greater innovation and competition in the financial services industry. America's consumers, our communities, and the economy will reap the benefits of this Act.

It's only Democrats who supported drug importation from Canada. - Rank: Blantant Lie Are you kidding? Several Democrat senators opposed drug importation from Canada and Europe in 2009 which is why it's still being debated today in the 115th Congress. That's why the drug importation clause never made it into ACA. In fact, one of the biggest supporters of drug importation in the 115th Congress is, guess who? Ted Cruz (R), and it was something Trump campaigned upon in 2016.

"The cost of getting a new drug approved is prohibitively expensive. Just curing cancer would save $50 trillion across the globe and the FDA is a barrier to doing that." - Ted Cruz

Also, if Democrats are the knights in shining armor you claim on this issue, why did 13 Democrat senators DEFECT earlier this year when Sanders actually put the Drug importation clause to a vote?

37 iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 1, 9:13am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

curious2 says

You're changing the subject, and no.

curious2 says

I had not made what you are now calling a "nonsense" argument, but your video did suggest that rioting came mainly from the left including AntiFa, and elected Democrats (e.g. in Berkeley and San Jose) tended reportedly to side with rioters and against supporters of President Trump. I will leave you to argue "nonsense" with yourself.

So you've got nothing to back this assertion?

38 iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 1, 9:15am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Goran_K says

It's only Democrats who supported drug importation from Canada. - Rank: Blantant Lie Are you kidding? Several Democrat senators opposed drug importation from Canada and Europe in 2009 which is why it's still being debated today in the 115th Congress.

You're dead wrong and you refuse to check. Eliminate Republicans and buying drugs from Canada becomes legal.

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=115&session=1&vote=00020#top

39 iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 1, 9:17am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Onvacation says

Now you can change your question to

iwog says

Show me a single example of any MAJOR media source speaking favorably about Antifa.

You can find a "news source" to confirm alien abductions. The fact I was talking about a legitimate news source is implied.

40 curious2   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 1, 9:21am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

iwog says

curious2 says

I had not made what you are now calling a "nonsense" argument, but your video did suggest that rioting came mainly from the left including AntiFa, and elected Democrats (e.g. in Berkeley and San Jose) tended reportedly to side with rioters and against supporters of President Trump. I will leave you to argue "nonsense" with yourself.

So you've got nothing to back this assertion?

LOL.

Goran_K says

[iwog's] lies are so blatant, I don't know if [he's] simply trolling, or seeing if [he] can get away with being a liar without anyone calling [him] out.

I am starting to call it iwog's "Old King Cole" mode. When caught in obvious lies, he reverts to arbitrariness: changing the subject, ordering people around, pretending that things aren't on the screen right in front of him, etc. IRL, there is a lot of overlap between obesity and bullying, and landlords tend disproportionately to be bullies. When proved wrong or caught lying, iwog tends to fall back on imaginary rank and say 'go make me a sandwich.'

Obviously Democrats enacted NAFTA and Obamneycare, proudly at the time, and both cost them in 2016. Today, some pretend Democrats did not even have power at the time, while failing to explain how Republicans do have power now.

41 iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 1, 9:26am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

curious2 says

Obviously Democrats enacted NAFTA and Obamneycare, proudly at the time, and both cost them in 2016. Today, some pretend Democrats did not even to have had power at the time, while failing to explain how Republicans do have power now.

This one is easy. Republicans have power now because propaganda works. It has been endlessly proved throughout history that the mob is too stupid to determine their own destiny when bombarded by a fictional narrative. Ask Goebbels how this works.

curious2 says

When caught in obvious lies, he reverts to arbitrariness: changing the subject, ordering people around

Ordering people around = asking a question pertaining to your point. I'm sorry you feel so injured when that happens.

curious2 says

Obviously Democrats enacted NAFTA

Nope, they did no such thing. The majority of Democrats opposed it and although Goran calls this a half-truth, it's actually entirely the truth.

Yes it's sad that so many Democrats voted for it but that doesn't change the fact that what I stated was 100% true.

curious2 says

Today, some pretend Democrats did not even to have had power at the time

I don't know what this sentence means exactly but Democrats ran things for approximately 6 weeks. That's it.

42 curious2   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 1, 9:31am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

iwog says

Democrats ran things for...

two years, 2009-2011, just as Republicans are running things now.

iwog says

Republicans have power now because...

they won in 2016, just as Democrats won in 2008 and had power 2009-11. Your vision is becoming increasingly selective, maybe check for cataracts.

iwog says

Ask Goebbels...

returning to the OP topic: he learned much from the Wilson administration and Edward Bernays.

43 iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 1, 9:36am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

curious2 says

two years, 2009-2011, just as Republicans are running things now.

That's an actual lie with the caveat that the Democrats could have and probably should have eliminated the filibuster rule. However assuming the filibuster rule, what you stated is absolute bullshit.

curious2 says

they won in 2016, just as Democrats won in 2008 and had power 2009-11. Your vision is becoming increasingly selective, maybe check for cataracts.

Really?? You're going to go with "the election stupid" instead of what 99.9% of people would read into this which would be why people voted the way they did? Brilliant. When you want to talk about an actual point, you let me know okay?

curious2 says

returning to the OP topic: he learned much from the Wilson administration and Edward Bernays.

That's funny because I thought the topic was Hitler and what he learned and how he executed it? I was spot on topic.

So back to something actually relevant to talk about, voters put Republicans back in power because in an environment without accountability and where reality itself is subjective, propaganda turns the mob against itself. Maybe a Western Civ 101 course would help your understanding in this?

44 Goran_K   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 1, 9:46am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

curious2 says

I am starting to call it iwog's "Old King Cole" mode. When caught in obvious lies, he reverts to arbitrariness: changing the subject, ordering people around, pretending that things aren't on the screen right in front of him, etc. IRL, there is a lot of overlap between obesity and bullying, and landlords tend disproportionately to be bullies. When proved wrong or caught lying, iwog tends to fall back on imaginary rank and say 'go make me a sandwich.'

Obviously Democrats enacted NAFTA and Obamneycare, proudly at the time, and both cost them in 2016. Today, some pretend Democrats did not even have power at the time, while failing to explain how Republicans do have power now.

Also I totally destroyed his half truths so severely, he marked the original comment as "uncivil". (It will be restored shortly)

That's how you know Iwog's point got totally destroyed. I'm satisfied here.

45 Goran_K   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 1, 9:47am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

iwog says

You're dead wrong and you refuse to check. Eliminate Republicans and buying drugs from Canada becomes legal.

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=115&session=1&vote=00020#top

I see 13 Democrat senators who DEFECTED against Sanders.

So remove those Democrats and it also passes.

46 iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 1, 9:48am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

Goran_K says

Also I totally destroyed his half truths so severely, he marked the original comment as "uncivil". (It will be restored shortly)

That's how you know Iwog's point got totally destroyed. I'm satisfied here.

My points stand on their own merits. I've addressed them in detail while what you posted above is all you can say about what I posted.

47 Goran_K   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 1, 9:51am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

iwog says

My points stand on their own merits. I've addressed them in detail while what you posted above is all you can say about what I posted.

You've lost all credibility. You're a dishonest person who marks comments as uncivil when they destroy your points. You know, and I know, that I totally destroyed your "GOP hate" narrative. It makes me extremely happy.

48 iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 1, 9:57am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Goran_K says

You've lost all credibility. You're a dishonest person who marks comments as uncivil when they destroy your points. You know, and I know, that I totally destroyed your "GOP hate" narrative. It makes me extremely happy.

The funny thing about this is that I addressed all your points THEN marked your comment as uncivil. It's funny you didn't notice that. If you were honest, you would have.

49 Dan8267   ignore (3)   2017 Aug 1, 10:58am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

iwog says

If you were honest,

There's a reason I banned Goran_K and other trolls. They are never honest on anything.

51 Dan8267   ignore (3)   2017 Aug 1, 11:10am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Tenpoundbass says

Although this is the first true thing TPB has ever posted, he still manages to sneak in a lie, specifically the lie that ANTIFA is the only one doing this. The right does censor speech as much as the left. Here are some examples:
1. Voter suppression laws masquerading as voter ID laws.
2. The War on Drugs prevents people from voting, which is voicing their political opinions and values.
3. Anti-nudity laws.
4. Decency laws including restricting speech on television and radio.
5. Anti-flag-burning laws.
6. Anti-prostitution laws. If money is speech, then paying for a prostitute is as much free speech as paying for politicians.
7. Pornography restriction laws.
8. Gag orders.
9. National security letters and laws prohibiting even talking about them.
10. Anti-encryption laws.
11. Domestic spying because it frightens people into not saying anything controversial.
12. DMCA and similar legislation

The conservative right is just as much about suppressing speech as the conservative left.

52 Quigley   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 1, 3:20pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote        

It's always fun when iwog gets proven galactically wrong once again.
Thanks guys!

53 Tenpoundbass   ignore (7)   2017 Aug 1, 3:55pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Quigley says

Thanks guys!

Anytime we live for these moments. It's what we train for, we're making a difference one small victory at a time.
My Liberal Arts teacher told Me... "Julito! Never let up, and never let let the bastards get you down, after you got them down. keep applying pressure and always educate the fools."

54 iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 1, 4:22pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Quigley says

It's always fun when iwog gets proven galactically wrong once again.

Thanks guys!

Specifically what was I proven wrong about?

55 Tenpoundbass   ignore (7)   2017 Aug 1, 4:49pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

iwog says

Specifically what was I proven wrong about?

When?

56 Dan8267   ignore (3)   2017 Aug 1, 5:07pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

iwog says

Quigley says

It's always fun when iwog gets proven galactically wrong once again.


Thanks guys!

Specifically what was I proven wrong about?

Not agreeing with the crazies and their delusions.

57 iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 1, 5:19pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Tenpoundbass says

iwog says

Specifically what was I proven wrong about?

When?

Pick something that can be verified factually and not some alternative universe twilight zone fantasy of yours.

58 Quigley   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 1, 5:26pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

iwog says

Specifically what was I proven wrong about?

He really does have a horribly short memory. I'm sure it's some kind of medical condition we should pity him for having.

59 Tenpoundbass   ignore (7)   2017 Aug 1, 5:42pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

iwog says

Pick something that can be verified factually

Exactly Iwog! we're calling you the Liar remember?

60 curious2   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 1, 5:51pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Quigley says

iwog says

Specifically what was I proven wrong about?

He really does have a horribly short memory.

It's funny to see him demand accountabiliy and even suggest indepenedent judges. He'd lose so many judgments, he'd need to file Internet bankruptcy.

iwog says

Democrats ran things for approximately 6 weeks. That's it.

Please let us know if you can ever acknowledge Republicans are now running things, and how they manage to do that with fewer Senators than Democrats had 2009-11. Meanwhile, by your "logic," apparently you blame Democrats for the confirmation of Neil Gorsuch, or maybe you imagine he wasn't actually confirmed.

61 iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 1, 6:22pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

Quigley says

He really does have a horribly short memory. I'm sure it's some kind of medical condition we should pity him for having.

Tenpoundbass says

Exactly Iwog! we're calling you the Liar remember?

I guess this is what some people call answering a direct question and supporting an assertion.

Kinda sad but then they are Trump voters.

62 iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 1, 6:23pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

curious2 says

Please let us know if you can ever acknowledge Republicans are now running things, and how they manage to do that with fewer Senators than Democrats had 2009-11. Meanwhile, by your "logic," apparently you blame Democrats for the confirmation of Neil Gorsuch, or maybe you imagine he wasn't actually confirmed.

It's hard to believe you're this ignorant but I'm happy to educate you.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/06/us/politics/neil-gorsuch-supreme-court-senate.html?_r=0

63 Automan Empire   ignore (0)   2017 Aug 1, 6:24pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Dan8267 says

The Democrats in Hitler's time are the Republicans of today.

Agree. Whenever someone compares the pre-1964 parties to today's, it is a clear indicator that they know jack shit about history and politics. Whig Party metaphors are lost upon them too, unfortunately...

64 Dan8267   ignore (3)   2017 Aug 2, 12:26am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Automan Empire says

Whenever someone compares the pre-1964 parties to today's, it is a clear indicator that they know jack shit about history and politics.

Actually, it's a clear indication that they are lying because they are ashamed of their own behavior and their own team.

65 zzyzzx   ignore (2)   2017 Aug 2, 6:55am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

It's really more like Democrats learned much from Hitler.

66 Tenpoundbass   ignore (7)   2017 Aug 2, 7:02am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Yup for the last 8 years the Liberals have been saying.

Those Red Neck violent Liberals from the 50's are the Republicans now.
But then what did they do when Trump won? Grabbed sticks and starting beating people they racially opposed.

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