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Dreaming of Califorshithole


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2017 Aug 2, 12:09pm   4,893 views  25 comments

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http://canadafreepress.com/article/calexit-leader-to-tucker-its-good-that-the-middle-class-is-leaving-californ

nbsp; This would be a great development if you hope never to see another Democrat in the White House, but not so great if you love good Cabernet Sauvignon.It will also, for a whole host of reasons, never happen.Despite that fact, Singam appeared on last night’s installment of the Tucker Carlson show to sing the praises of Calexit. During his segment he twitched, rolled his eyes, looked weird, and said

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1   🎂 Tenpoundbass   2017 Aug 2, 12:33pm  

Don't worry you'll get the Shithole you deserve. They don't even want you there you stupid Cucked sonofabitch.

You'll be the first rolled over on you back and given a pink belly when they drive the middle class(See crackers) out of California so they can replace you with immigrants and head choppers. Livestream that shit will ya?

2   🎂 Tenpoundbass   2017 Aug 2, 12:37pm  

https://www.ice.gov/tipline#wcm-survey-target-id

If any Americans in California that want to fight for your State.

Remember tip twice finish nice!

3   bob2356   2017 Aug 2, 1:20pm  

Tenpoundbass says

Dreaming of Califorshithole

Pretty funny for someone living in south florida shithole.

4   Ceffer   2017 Aug 2, 1:22pm  

Tenpoundbass says

immigrants and head choppers

Does make them good at harvesting iceberg lettuce.

5   Ceffer   2017 Aug 3, 8:58am  

The brats also have prop 13 advantages. They have to pay down their mortgages and WAIT for appreciation, just like their parents did.

6   lostand confused   2017 Aug 3, 9:40am  

Prop 13 was there when the market crashed a few short years ago. Prices were very reasonable then. Prop 13 didn't magically make prices rise. NYC does not have prop13 -prices are there. How are the prices in Barstow , CA-did prop 13 make them unreasonable?

Now commercial and rental properties can be removed, but primary-oh well.

7   anonymous   2017 Aug 3, 10:11am  

How did they ever dream up, and pass, Prop 13.

It just sounds ridiculously stupid.

8   zzyzzx   2017 Aug 3, 10:13am  

bob2356 says

Pretty funny for someone living in south florida shithole.

If I had my pick of South Florida or California, I'd pick South Florida. Having said that, I will probably retire in Delaware or maybe north Florida near Jacksonville.

9   zzyzzx   2017 Aug 3, 10:15am  

Doesn't Florida have something where property taxes can only go up 3% per year, once you have bought the house?

10   lostand confused   2017 Aug 3, 10:18am  

errc says

How did they ever dream up, and pass, Prop 13.

It just sounds ridiculously stupi

If they had a prop system in IL , I think prop 13 would sail. When you are paying 14k for a 380k house-and get the same service as someone paying 3k for 380k house in another state-people will get angry.

11   zzyzzx   2017 Aug 3, 10:21am  

lostand confused says

When you are paying 14k for a 380k house-and get the same service as someone paying 3k for 380k house in another state-people will get angry.

Fixed:
When you are paying 14k for a 380k house-and get the same service as someone paying 3k for 380k house in another state-people will move,

12   dublin hillz   2017 Aug 3, 10:49am  

Social security benefits are not taxed in California:

"California does not tax social security income from the United States, including survivor's benefits and disability benefits. Social security income may be partially taxable under federal law.

To determine whether or not your social security benefits are taxable for the federal return, see IRS Publication 915, Social Security and Equivalent Railroad Retirement Benefits, or IRS Publication 17, Your Federal Income Tax, Chapter 12, Social Security and Equivalent Railroad Retirement Benefits."

http://www.taxes.ca.gov/income_tax/specialind.shtml#Social

In general, I would not base my retirement locale based on taxes - at that stage of existence, it's all about enjoying life to the max, not the damn finances!

13   AllTruth   2017 Aug 3, 10:58am  

TenPoundBass strikes again.

15   zzyzzx   2017 Aug 3, 11:40am  

dublin hillz says

In general, I would not base my retirement locale based on taxes - at that stage of existence, it's all about enjoying life to the max, not the damn finances!

True, but if you are thinking about retiring and have several states in mind, taxes should be one of many considerations. For example, if considering Florida, sure the lack of state income taxes helps, but you also have to figure in paying double for homeowners insurance, and the cost of a new roof every 15 years in order to even have homeowners insurance. Yes they do that now in Florida (and some other places). I won't have that in DE. Amazingly SC and DE are pretty close in cost of living, with DE having a slight edge due to no sales tax (although I doubt that means much in retirement).

16   socal2   2017 Aug 3, 12:22pm  

SpecialSnowflake says

Abolishing of Prop13 will fuck many people without offering anything in return. It will also open the residents of the state to massive property tax hikes by legislature dominated by one party known for happily wasting money w/o good return for the citizents , i.e. exactly the situation which lead to tax revolt in the first place.

No kidding.

Just think how much worse California government services would be today after the housing bubble burst if the drunks in Sacramento and unions got used to the sky high property tax returns during the bubble years? We'd have even more municipal bankruptcies than we do now.

If nothing else, Prop 13 keeps the morons that run California half-way sober.

17   HEY YOU   2017 Aug 3, 1:13pm  

California needs to take a lesson from Red State Kans-ass.
That's the way to fuck up a state.

18   socal2   2017 Aug 3, 1:18pm  

HEY YOU says

California needs to take a lesson from Red State Kans-ass.

That's the way to fuck up a state.

How many Kansas cities are going through bankruptcy proceedings like California?

Which state has the highest poverty rate?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_poverty_rate

Which state has higher educational attainment?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_educational_attainment

19   Strategist   2017 Aug 3, 4:32pm  

SpecialSnowflake says

Abolishing of Prop13 will fuck many people without offering anything in return. It will also open the residents of the state to massive property tax hikes by legislature dominated by one party known for happily wasting money w/o good return for the citizents , i.e. exactly the situation which lead to tax revolt in the first place.

And most of the increase would end up in the pensions of people who don't deserve more, and the rest will be frittered away by bureaucrats.
The less we get taxed, the less will be the waste.

20   bob2356   2017 Aug 4, 7:38am  

Strategist says

Also make government outsource more of it's services to the private sector, that can do the same thing more efficiently, and cheaper.

More efficiently and cheaper like this? http://www.pogo.org/our-work/reports/2011/co-gp-20110913.html

21   Strategist   2017 Aug 4, 8:02am  

bob2356 says

Strategist says

Also make government outsource more of it's services to the private sector, that can do the same thing more efficiently, and cheaper.

More efficiently and cheaper like this? http://www.pogo.org/our-work/reports/2011/co-gp-20110913.html

I see the public employee unions have been busy with their propaganda. Well, they have nothing else to do.

22   bob2356   2017 Aug 4, 9:26am  

Strategist says

I see the public employee unions have been busy with their propaganda. Well, they have nothing else to do.

It is far better to remain silent and appear to be a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt. Mark Twain.

Project on government oversight is an independent non profit public interest group that has won many awards for investigating and exposing government waste and corruption for over 35 years. Hope you washed your foot before sticking it so far down your throat.

23   socal2   2017 Aug 4, 10:26am  

bob2356 says

Project on government oversight is an independent non profit public interest group that has won many awards for investigating and exposing government waste and corruption for over 35 years. Hope you washed your foot before sticking it so far down your throat.

I've been a private engineering contractor for 25 years working on government water projects. The amount of waste and inefficiencies that I have seen with my own eyes is staggering.

Just examine the Prevailing Wage racket. In order to work on a "Public Works" project private contractors have to pay basic high school educated laborers nearly $100K a year! Prevailing Wage is a strong arm technique to try and disuade our government from hiring lower cost and more efficient private contractors. Check out these wages for basic unskilled laborers!
http://www.dir.ca.gov/OPRL/2017-1/PWD/Determinations/Southern/SC-023-102-2.pdf

Of course I also need to make sure I meet the diversity quotas and have to charge the cities even a higher price so I can use an MWBE temp firm located in East Coast to meet my numbers.

I proposed on a job in Stockton when they were going through their bankruptcy proceedings a few years ago. Back then they could opt out of prevailing wage because they were a charter city. My price was $250K normally, but I had to increase it to $380K to cover prevailing wage. I asked the City if they wanted to exercise their right to opt out on this project and save the tax payers $130K, of course they didn't. This would be the easiest thing to do politically to save this struggling bankrupt city money. We aren't even talking about the painful things that will need to happen like clawing back pensions. But even this simple and painless step, a bankrupt city like Stockton still stuck with these corrupt union contracting rules.

But yeah - I suppose we can believe our unionized government bureaucracy s a model of efficiency and we just need to shovel more tax dollars their way.

24   bob2356   2017 Aug 4, 12:25pm  

socal2 says

Check out these wages for basic unskilled laborers!

So you are saying the private contractors cost more than government workers then. Thanks for clearing that up.

It's good to know that you are a saint looking to save the government money. Sorry to say but that is far from the norm for government contractors. With or without corrupt union contracting rules.

I'm not seeing your research refuting the pogo numbers. Did I miss it somehow?

25   socal2   2017 Aug 4, 1:07pm  

bob2356 says

So you are saying the private contractors cost more than government workers then. Thanks for clearing that up.

It's good to know that you are a saint looking to save the government money. Sorry to say but that is far from the norm for government contractors. With or without corrupt union contracting rules.

I'm not seeing your research refuting the pogo numbers. Did I miss it somehow?

Huh? Those are wages set by the California Department of Industrial Relations (DIR). Private contractors are forced to pay these inflated wages if they want to bid on government jobs. I have to submit certified payroll every month to the California DIR. I have some high school educated laborers making more than some of my civil engineers because of this crazy union rule.

And even those crazy high prevailing wages have less cost to the taxpayer because private contractors don't have ridiculous defined benefit pensions to pay out like we do with municipal employees. Surely you are aware of the pension crisis crippling states like California, Illinois, Texas, Connecticut.......? Is that all made up?

IRT - POGO link. I am talking about State and Municipal Government because that is my direct experience. But I noticed the entire POGO analysis says virtually nothing about the massive pension obligation of Federal Employees. The only mention of pension is to cite a union hack who is trying to discredit a USA Today analysis saying Federal Employees cost 20% more than the private sector.

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