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'Dodgy' greenhouse gas data threatens Paris accord

By SpecialSnowflake following x   2017 Aug 7, 5:39pm 147 views   3 comments   watch   quote     share  

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-40669449

Potent, climate warming gases are being emitted into the atmosphere but are not being recorded in official inventories, a BBC investigation has found.

Air monitors in Switzerland have detected large quantities of one gas coming from a location in Italy.
However, the Italian submission to the UN records just a tiny amount of the substance being emitted.
Levels of some emissions from India and China are so uncertain that experts say their records are plus or minus 100%.
These flaws posed a bigger threat to the Paris climate agreement than US President Donald Trump's intention to withdraw, researchers told BBC Radio 4's Counting Carbon programme.

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The rules covering how countries report their emissions are currently being negotiated.
But Prof Glen Peters, from the Centre for International Climate Research, in Oslo, said: "The core part of Paris [is] the global stock-takes which are going to happen every five years, and after the stock-takes countries are meant to raise their ambition, but if you can't track progress sufficiently, which is the whole point of these stock-takes, you basically can't do anything.
"So, without good data as a basis, Paris essentially collapses. It just becomes a talkfest without much progress."

1 beershrine   2017 Aug 7, 5:49pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

Let's just stop using our A/C problem solved.

2 Onvacation   2017 Aug 7, 5:49pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        

"In 2011, Swiss scientists first published their data on levels of a gas called HFC-23 coming from a location in northern Italy.
Between 2008 and 2010, they had recorded samples of the chemical, produced in the refrigeration and air conditioning industries, which is 14,800 times more warming to the atmosphere than CO2."

The article makes it clear humans are polluting the planet and probably won't stop. All the bloviating about Paris and Kyoto are probably causing more global warming than they would have prevented.

3 SpecialSnowflake   2017 Aug 7, 7:41pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        

beershrine says

Let's just stop using our A/C problem solved.

.... and kill all the cows:

"The BBC investigation also discovered vast uncertainties in carbon emissions inventories, particularly in developing countries.
Methane, the second most abundant greenhouse gas after CO2, is produced by microbe activity in marshlands, in rice cultivation, from landfill, from agriculture and in the production of fossil fuels.
Global levels have been rising in recent years, and scientists are unsure why.
For a country such as India, home to 15% of the world's livestock, methane is a very important gas in their inventory - but the amount produced is subject to a high degree of uncertainty.

"What they note is that methane emissions are about 50% uncertain for categories like ruminants, so what this means is that the emissions they submit could be plus or minus 50% of what's been submitted," said Dr Anita Ganesan, from the University of Bristol, who has overseen air monitoring research in the country.
"For nitrous oxide, that's 100%."
There are similar uncertainties with methane emissions in Russia, of between 30-40%, according to scientists who work there."

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