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Do you support the white nationalist movement? Yes or no.

By iwog following x   2017 Aug 14, 9:26am 5,752 views   220 comments   watch   quote     share  


My answer is no.

How about a simple poll. Anyone else want to go on record specifically denouncing them? Don't be shy.

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181 jazz_music   ignore (2)   2017 Aug 17, 12:23pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

TwoScoopsMcGee says

definition of terror, it involves death or injury by violence.

That should be true, yes.

That's the designed-in problem/bonus with these terrorism and terrorist labels, they can be extended to anything or anyone you don't like.

On the other hand "death or injury by violence" is a nice and "cut and dry" specification, and for that reason it is unfavorable.

182 Blurtman   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 17, 12:24pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Tim Aurora says

I denounce White Supremacist.

I denounce restrictions on shitting in public. Oh Lordy, when will the bigotry end? Happy, happy, shat it snappy!

183 someone else   ignore (0)   2017 Aug 18, 12:21am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Rew says

There is zero place in mainstream America for for this thought and speech. They need to be forced back underground.

@Rew So certain thought and speech deserves to be suppressed by violence?

And you're the judge of which thought and speech deserves to be suppressed by violence? If not you, who?

184 deepcgi   ignore (0)   2017 Aug 18, 1:24am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

I do not see that the hatred is any greater today than 50 years ago.

The violent tendencies of any individual human are running level. What is different today is the internet and our proximity to one another. Everyone is fed the hot-button issues immediately and they simmer commonly in the public consciousness simultaneously.

In addition, there are nearly three times as many people occupying the same real estate today as only two generations ago. We have no common culture. We have shared no great burden or suffered through any severe hardship together. We have no common moral treatise to which we can consult for wisdom. Yet we are supposed to all get along and respect one another's fears, loves, hatred, and lifestyle.

The United States may be the greatest melting pot of all. Soup made fresh daily by dozens of chefs in the same kitchen. No wonder the lines are so long, the prices so high, and the taste of the lunch special like yesterday's ass.

185 BlueSardine   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 18, 5:55am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

If you shop for sheets at bed bath & beyond you are a racist.

186 WorkInProgress   ignore (0)   2017 Aug 18, 6:54am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

The civil war was 95% about States rights and slavery as a means of a functioning economy 5%. But then if we eradicate any memory of slavery what next? Will every white person be the last image and memory of slavery. Will the democrats then want to eradicate all whites? It’s a serious question. If there is only one remaining image and memory why would they stop there? ISIS hasn’t stopped and our militant left won’t either. Prepare to fight on your feet or live on your knees Sheeple. You are being targeted as the enemy and many don’t even see it, many are so brainwashed they will become cannon fodder with that look on their faces of, “but I thought hating myself and my own race made us friends.”

187 YesYNot   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 18, 7:22am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

--The civil war was 95% about States rights and slavery as a means of a functioning economy 5%.
>>Absolute bullshit. This is a load of whitewash meant to make you feel better about your 'heritage'
--But then if we eradicate any memory of slavery what next?
>>This will not happen. Monuments to Lee do not keep the memory of slavery alive. They whitewash it.
--Will the democrats then want to eradicate all whites? It’s a serious question.
>>Here's a serious answer: No.
--ISIS hasn’t stopped and our militant left won’t either. Prepare to fight on your feet or live on your knees Sheeple.
>>Do you recall the phrase, 'don't shoot until you see the whites of their eyes'? You are the type who would pull the trigger the first time a noise startled you. If everybody were as reflexive and trigger happy as you, we would be in full on civil war right now. The gun here is just a metaphor. What you are doing is conjuring up an imaginary enemy (who wants to commit genocide against you) in an effort to justify your own hatred.

188 TwoScoopsMcGee   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 18, 7:53am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

deepcgi says

In addition, there are nearly three times as many people occupying the same real estate today as only two generations ago. We have no common culture. We have shared no great burden or suffered through any severe hardship together. We have no common moral treatise to which we can consult for wisdom. Yet we are supposed to all get along and respect one another's fears, loves, hatred, and lifestyle.

We have lost the dignity of labor, and the celebration of the working man. It's seen everywhere from politicians to beer commercials. There is the virtuous, heroic, so very smart coastie professionals and trust fund babies, the ghetto poor, and the lousy, dirty redneck & rustbelt ignorant horrible scum.

The only celebration of work on TV is Single Moms juggling 50 different things. Which is good marketing, since women control most household spending. A little fact feminists avoid because it hurty their narrative.

189 FortWayne   ignore (0)   2017 Aug 18, 8:50am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

jazz_music says

e invents the "alt left"

He didn't make that term up. Those crazy nuts on the left running around telling everyone that white man needs to be oppressed in the name of equality aren't any better than nazi's in my book. Those leftists should be labeled a terrorist organization and ran out of town.

190 WorkInProgress   ignore (0)   2017 Aug 18, 9:39am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

YesYNot says

--The civil war was 95% about States rights and slavery as a means of a functioning economy 5%.

>>Absolute bullshit. This is a load of whitewash meant to make you feel better about your 'heritage'

--But then if we eradicate any memory of slavery what next?

>>This will not happen. Monuments to Lee do not keep the memory of slavery alive. They whitewash it.

--Will the democrats then want to eradicate all whites? It’s a serious question.

>>Here's a serious answer: No.

--ISIS hasn’t stopped and our militant left won’t either. Prepare to fight on your feet or live on your knees Sheeple.

>>Do you recall the phrase, 'don't shoot until you see the whites of their eyes'? You are the type who would pull the trigger the first time a noise startled you. If everybody were as reflexive and trigger happy as you, we would be in full on civil war right now. The gun here is just a metaphor. What you are doing is conjuring up an imaginary enem...

The left is still trying to preserve their plantations of dependents. We just call them major metropolitan areas now.

191 Rew   ignore (0)   2017 Aug 18, 9:59am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Patrick says

Rew says

There is zero place in mainstream America for for this thought and speech. They need to be forced back underground.

@Rew So certain thought and speech deserves to be suppressed by violence?

And you're the judge of which thought and speech deserves to be suppressed by violence? If not you, who?

@Patrick

"Forced back underground" doesn't mean by violence. It means by overwhelming defiant opposition. It will be, and is already becoming, a massive outpouring of the American populace which decries, disavows, abhors, and condemns white supremacy and Nazis. It's happening in the wake of Charlottesville. The radicals caught on film there committing a crime are being hunted by law enforcement. Spencer has an arrest warrant out for him. Many are now wishing they stayed in their basements or wore hoods. This is not surprising. This is America.

The question of "which thought and speech deserves to be suppressed" is not hard for anyone to answer, especially for you Patrick, the creator and maintainer of a free speech website. It's speech which seeks to insight violence against a people, government officials, and espouses ideologies which seek to sow disunion and destroy American principals by radical action. It's speech which furthers the ability of radical terrorist organizations to recruit, organize, spread, and do damage to people.

As someone who often has already been put in the position of deciding what the Patrick.net community finds acceptable free speech site, you already know this.

I get it. It's natural for people to defend and absolve the sins of their chosen candidates. We all do it.

I'm a white male who went to college and works in a libby tech company. I get it. Believe me I do. I see the problems inherent with diversity programs and minority organizations. But you cannot fight against these things with aggrieved hate, malice, or scientifically insignificant statistics hyping differences between race and sex. We are overwhelming more similar than dissimilar.

Bottom line: America is stronger unified and Nazis are not a wedge issue. There are no real questions about this, statues, free speech, etc. There are just those that still want to sheepishly find ways to support Trump's actions and speech in the wake of Charlottesville and those that want him impeached already.

192 Rew   ignore (0)   2017 Aug 18, 10:02am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

There is a morally correct side on this. It's the side America has always fought to be on and continues to struggle to be better at throughout its existence.

193 Tenpoundbass   ignore (6)   2017 Aug 18, 10:06am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Oliver supports coming here and bringing it up every time it dies down.
Aye Oliver!?

195 mell   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 18, 10:13am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Rew says

There are just those that still want to sheepishly find ways to support Trump's actions and speech in the wake of Charlottesville and those that want him impeached already.

Wtf are you talking about? Trump disavowed and condemned Nazi ideology umpteenth times already. There are no objective grounds for impeachment. This is about the rule of law, not whether you like Trump or not. He wasn't my fav candidate either but that doesn't mean I'll join the choir of liars and call him a racist. Just look at his history and you can immediately see how far fetched and ridiculous that claim is. And solely being a blowhard is not grounds for impeachment.

196 Rew   ignore (0)   2017 Aug 18, 10:22am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

mell says

And solely being a blowhard is not grounds for impeachment.

The president is failing to control diplomatic and domestic issues by being a 'blowhard'. Impeachment is not a criminal charge. It's a political one. He is unfit.

We have seen overwhelming evidence of this. The split is happening now in the GOP. Trump will resign, be impeached, or charged with crimes. I see no other potentials.

197 mell   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 18, 10:28am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Rew says

The president is failing to control diplomatic and domestic issues by being a 'blowhard'. Impeachment is not a criminal charge. It's a political one. He is unfit.

We have seen overwhelming evidence of this. The split is happening now in the GOP. Trump will resign, be impeached, or charged with crimes. I see no other potentials.

Doubtful. Obama could have been impeached for overstepping executive powers and W should have been impeached for Iraq. Trump has been factually right on the current issue of political violence and there are no crimes to charge him with unless causing mass hysteria amongst the leftoids is now considered a crime. But we'll see.

198 Rew   ignore (0)   2017 Aug 18, 1:02pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

mell says

causing mass hysteria amongst the leftoids is now considered a crime.

I think you greatly underestimate who has just turned against Trump. This, again, is not a wedge issue.

His arts council just mass resigned today. His business council ... gone. Most republican representatives just spoke out against him, 12 with enough courage to call him out by name. Mitt Romney just fired his opening salvo for 2020 primary challenge.

Again, this isn't a wedge partisan issue we are talking about. On the 15th, something shifted. There will be careful political calculators too, but Trump is now a pariah.

199 Rew   ignore (0)   2017 Aug 18, 1:04pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Trump lost 20% of his GOP support by early polling, and more is going to fall because of what he said yesterday in tweets. :)

Bannon is now on the outs, he looks like he might go form stronger alt-right pushes again, against Trump.

Trump has run out of allies. This administration cannibalized itself and then supported Nazis.

200 Rew   ignore (0)   2017 Aug 18, 1:07pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Also, we will get the "Democrats overreacted, the statues thing doesn't matter, yada-yadda" analysis. Expected. Trump will still maintain some level of GOP support as well.

Just remember, Nixon had around 25% approval when he was ousted.

201 mell   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 18, 1:14pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Rew says

Again, this isn't a wedge partisan issue we are talking about. On the 15th, something shifted. There will be careful political calculators too, but Trump is now a pariah.

Possible, it is extremely difficult to gauge the climate now that most of the mainstream media has completely abandoned their journalistic duty and is just a shrill hysteric mouthpiece. I still doubt it but it could also be that Pence will take over, and Pence is not only very strong, but also very smooth as you can see how he obliterated pretty much everybody (Tim Kaine, "reporters") in 1-1 discussions.

202 TwoScoopsMcGee   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 18, 1:18pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Reminder: #LegacyMedia implied GOP Candidates are courting White Supremacists is nothing new:


I hate that Brylcreamed Preppy SOB, but he's not a White Supremacist nor courts them.

At least they corrected this one.

203 deepcgi   ignore (0)   2017 Aug 19, 8:00am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Free speech, nonprofane comments deleted, hypocrisy.

204 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Aug 19, 8:05am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

deepcgi says

Free speech, nonprofane comments deleted, hypocrisy.

Then the only other explanation would be whitewashing of inconvenient truths

205 jazz_music   ignore (2)   2017 Aug 19, 3:15pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

mell says

the mainstream media has completely abandoned their journalistic duty

Like healthcare, they pursue their primary duty which is shareholder value.

True facts.

206 TwoScoopsMcGee   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 19, 3:17pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

The most accurate yet pithy description of the Media in 2017

207 Fucking White Male   ignore (2)   2017 Aug 19, 3:42pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote        

TwoScoopsMcGee says

The most accurate yet pithy description of the Media in 2017

Like I said, hysteria after hysteria from the left.

Its funny, cuckynot keeps wanting to attribute Trumps election to hysteria on the right. Except the right didn't elect Trump. And Trump supporters can explain exactly what they wanted(not that its all happened in entirety, but thats not the point to this thread)

-More secure borders.
-A foreign policy that does not kowtow to foreign nations
-yobs. More of them. Many yobs. And for Americans, not Mexicans.

Pretty simply on the part of trump supporters I think. OTOH the left has to perpetually invent hysterias.

208 marcus   ignore (0)   2017 Aug 19, 4:37pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Fucking White Male says

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209 TwoScoopsMcGee   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 19, 4:48pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

marcus says

FWM, you're a tool

A Reminder that the "You're all Nazis" long predates #Charlottesville. This is from January or February of this year, and it's an NYU Professor protesting Gavin McInnes, former Punk Rocker and Vice Co-Founder.

210 errc   ignore (2)   2017 Aug 19, 5:21pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

If you have to pick death or ugu, which do you choose?

211 YesYNot   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 19, 5:46pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

marcus says

FWM, you're a tool.

FYI, Patrick will ignore fwm insults and flag your response as uncivil. It's a subjective activity and the local hammer is biased. Fwm seems angry today - wonder what happened.

212 Fucking White Male   ignore (2)   2017 Aug 20, 12:45am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

marcus says

Fucking White Male says

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Hmmmmmm....what would you call someone who ignores a religion whose millions of adherents have killed tens of thousands of civilians worldwide in the last five years, including hundreds in the United States, while decrying the threat of 10,000 fanatics who are responsible for killing one person and seem incapable of organizing to kill more, and worse yet, spreading the blame across the entire race of 100's of millions?

213 iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 20, 8:05am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Fucking White Male says

Hmmmmmm....what would you call someone who ignores a religion whose millions of adherents have killed tens of thousands of civilians worldwide in the last five years, including hundreds in the United States, while decrying the threat of 10,000 fanatics who are responsible for killing one person and seem incapable of organizing to kill more, and worse yet, spreading the blame across the entire race of 100's of millions?

Don't know but I would call what you posted a lie. No one has killed more terrorists than Obama. He also got Bin Laden which I'm sure is going to be a thorn in your side for the rest of your life.

214 bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 20, 8:35am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

YesYNot says

FYI, Patrick will ignore fwm insults and flag your response as uncivil. It's a subjective activity and the local hammer is biased.

The local hmmer is very biased.

YesYNot says

Fwm seems angry today - wonder what happened.

Bannon quit. A national day of mourning for the alt right.

216 marcus   ignore (0)   2017 Aug 20, 2:41pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

Fucking White Male says

what would you call someone who ignores a religion whose millions of adherents have killed tens of thousands of civilians worldwide in the last five years, including hundreds in the United States, while decrying the threat of 10,000 fanatics who are responsible for killing one person and seem incapable of organizing to kill more, and worse yet, spreading the blame across the entire race of 100's of millions?

I don't know, I give up. What ? A figment of your imagination ?

Kind of incoherent question, appears to be written by TPB. I've heard you say that CNN is saying Nazi's are everywhere, or something to that effect. I don't watch CNN, but it sounds doubtful. I haven't heard anyone calling you or Patrick or any of the other Trump lovers Nazi's just because they like Trump.

You seem to be taking the whole Nazi affiliation that exists for some minority of Trump supporters badly. Worse than the others.

By the way, that ATM post of yours was quite lovely. A little humorous - definite dog whistle qualities to it. Not racist at all. Good job.

I get it that it can't be easy to be so conflicted. On the one hand you totally reject the hatred for the American way and the sick weaselly notions of racial purity espoused by neonazis. And you hate that Trumpism seems to brought them out of the shadows. On the other hand there's just something about the whole thing that upsets you. They should have their right to show their ugliness to us all (I agree with that by the way). Isn't it interesting that we don't see more in the media about what those clowns really want - which also clarifies how small a minority they are ?

I don't believe you have any conception of how much of a set back this Trump shit show is.

217 jazz_music   ignore (2)   2017 Aug 20, 3:22pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

WHAT IS REALLY WRONG?

There are so many Nazis nowadays and they are all across the nation and with a hierarchal command structure, membership secrecy, huge inroads into government.

IT'S THIS:
With drug-war laws smashing the constitution, ever expanding enforcement and excessively militarized enforcement, we have the framework that could be a tipping from authoritarianism into tyranny, all we need is the political will, the ideological reason to enforce intolerance of all dissenting opinions. Jeff Sessions, the man at the top, certainly would not mind this turn of events at all.

218 TwoScoopsMcGee   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 20, 8:11pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

jazz_music says

WHAT IS REALLY WRONG?

And the Clintons had nothing to do with it, right?

219 TwoScoopsMcGee   ignore (1)   2017 Aug 20, 8:14pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

iwog says

No one has killed more terrorists than Obama

When you count every male over 16 as a "Military Age Male" as somebody who "was in on it."

220 jazz_music   ignore (2)   2017 Aug 20, 8:14pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote        

TwoScoopsMcGee says

And the Clintons had nothing to do with it,

Noooo they were running a child sex ring from a pizza joint!!!!!!

Maybe they still are doing it.

All the southern prisons are into human trafficking slave labor just like when America was great and southern cotton and tobacco was harvested while black nannies got raped and beaten EXACTLY as god intended. AMEN

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