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Do you support the ANTIFA movement? Yes or no.


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2017 Aug 15, 6:35am   9,333 views  43 comments

by zzyzzx   ➕follow (5)   💰tip   ignore  

My answer is no.

How about a simple poll. Anyone else want to go on record specifically denouncing them? Don't be shy.

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1   anonymous   2017 Aug 15, 6:37am  

I support people that are anti fascism.

As a Real American, the questions don't get any easier.

We should all unite to squash the opposition (pro fascist) groups

2   lostand confused   2017 Aug 15, 6:46am  

No way in hell-these are the precusor to the brownshirts. Scary people.

3   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Aug 15, 7:49am  

No. They are an ironic joke, and should be ridiculed.

Furthermore, there's no need to say yeah but, and blame it on the Nazi's on the right either. Antifa are misguided and in need of correction.

4   georgeliberte   2017 Aug 15, 8:00am  

NPR glibly smooth over the fact that these left fascists are disguised while reporting on alleged white supremacist's fired for allegedly being such. So hell no I do not support storm troopers of any ilk.

5   anonymous   2017 Aug 15, 8:06am  

A better question is who do you side with?

The people that are anti-fascist, or the opposition, the pro-fascist?

The people who are saying Black (all) lives matter, or the opposition who say that lives don't matter?

6   GNL   2017 Aug 15, 8:31am  

errc says

The people who are saying Black (all) lives matter, or the opposition who say that lives don't matter?

What? What the hell are you saying? BLM is nothing but a racist ass organization.

8   GNL   2017 Aug 15, 8:53am  

zzyzzx says

Unless they are going to be punished for it. Like get fired or something. Are you dense?

9   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Aug 15, 9:03am  

WorkInProgress says

Unless they are going to be punished for it. Like get fired or something. Are you dense?

Some idiots just forfeited any future non-menial job. Like this guy.

Might as well hang a sign around your neck that says I'm a toxic asshole who will ruin everything I touch. It's nice that they are coming out into the daylight without masks, but I'm surprised they seem ignorant of the personal costs.

10   GNL   2017 Aug 15, 9:06am  

YesYNot says

WorkInProgress says

Unless they are going to be punished for it. Like get fired or something. Are you dense?

Some idiots just forfeited any future non-menial job. Like this guy.

Might as well hang a sign around your neck that says I'm a toxic asshole who will ruin everything I touch. It's nice that they are coming out into the daylight without masks, but I'm surprised they seem ignorant of the personal costs.

So you mock them if they cover their faces or not? Do you find it interesting, in the least, that the media is covering one and only one angle to this? There is much to read and many videos to watch that show antifa (the real facists) are the violent ones and started the violence.

What is the purpose of erasing history? That is a question you may want to do some historical research to answer.

11   HEY YOU   2017 Aug 15, 9:11am  

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

Does no one want to talk about the dead chick's weight?

Bet her ass was covered with cellulite.

12   HEY YOU   2017 Aug 15, 9:18am  

PCGyver says

Not sure how you can call yourself anti fascist if you are stopping free speech.

Let W.S.march all they want.
Capital punishment for all those that don't boycott Republican businesses.
Rep/Con businesses have to demand all the Right Wingers commit suicide before
the left spends one dime in Neo-Nazi/Republican businesses.

13   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Aug 15, 9:22am  

WorkInProgress says

So you mock them if they cover their faces or not?

I mock them for what they are doing and saying, whether they cover their faces or not. They are tragically wrong about their problems and they are a danger to themselves and society at large.

WorkInProgress says

There is much to read and many videos to watch that show antifa (the real facists) are the violent ones and started the violence.

Oh, the Nazis wannabes were violent and they are hard core fascists. Stop trying to blame the Nazi wannabe atrocities on other people. The guy who drove a car into the crowd was a straight up terrorist. He was no better than an ISIS a-hole doing the same. You want to talk about antifa, that's fine. But at the moment you are just using them as an excuse for some truly sick behavior.

15   Strategist   2017 Aug 15, 9:38am  

WorkInProgress says

What is the purpose of erasing history? That is a question you may want to do some historical research to answer.

History cannot be erased. The problem is, some people want to relive the history that put us to shame in the eyes of the world. Nothing good can come of it.

16   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Aug 15, 9:40am  

Strategist says

History cannot be erased. The problem is, some people want to relive the history that put us to shame in the eyes of the world.

Exactly.

17   bob2356   2017 Aug 15, 9:42am  

zzyzzx says

My answer is no.

How about a simple poll. Anyone else want to go on record specifically denouncing them? Don't be shy.

Simple would suit you perfectly since you communicate in cartoons. Life isn't simple however.

Any group that takes up violent and repressive methods has no validity no matter what their stated beliefs are. The ends don't justify the means. I support the principle but not when the methods are violent or intimidating to other people. I don't support the principle or methods of white supremacists.

20   Dan8267   2017 Aug 16, 8:58am  

zzyzzx says

Today's Democrats did not make the KKK. The people who participated in the KKK or defended who are still alive today are all Trump supporters, are all Republicans, and are almost entirely southerns. The descendants of the KKK members are also Trump supporters, Republicans, and southerns.

The people who are Democrats today were never KKK members, nor were their ancestors.

We live in a two-party system and the two parties switched in the 1960s. Every time a right-wing conservative demonize pre-1960 Democrats, he's really talking about today's Republicans. But your point is taken. The racists who support Trump -- and not everyone who supports is racist, but pretty much all racists support Trump -- are vile. The American South, no matter what party they control, are vile. The conservative right, no matter what party it controls, is vile. Point taken.

21   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Aug 16, 9:01am  

zzyzzx says

Antifa Flag Comes Directly From The German Communist Party In 1932

So sad. Antifa was an organization that opposed Hitler's party. They got violent to oppose the violent wing of the Nazi party. Hitler won over the minds of the people and that led to WWII and the Holocaust. That site then blames Antifa for Hitler. Brilliant! Today, people are repeating history. So cliche.

22   mell   2017 Aug 16, 9:08am  

YesYNot says

So sad. Antifa was an organization that opposed Hitler's party. They got violent to oppose the violent wing of the Nazi party. Hitler won over the minds of the people and that led to WWII and the Holocaust. That site then blames Antifa for Hitler. Brilliant! Today, people are repeating history. So cliche.

And then proceeded to support Marxism, Leninism and Stalinism which killed far more people than the Nazis.

23   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Aug 16, 9:15am  

mell says

And then proceeded to support Marxism, Leninism and Stalinism

Well, I don't know if the historical version of Antifa from Germany supported Stalin or not. But you know who does? Trump's buddy Putin. Stalin is enjoying more support these days as Russians do a little historical revisionism and erect statues of Stalin.
The current Antifa is anti-capitalist, which I also disagree with strongly.

25   zzyzzx   2017 Aug 16, 9:29am  

YesYNot says

Well, I don't know if the historical version of Antifa from Germany

26   Dan8267   2017 Aug 16, 9:43am  

zzyzzx says

That's true, but it's also the same damn kit the police use.

27   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Aug 16, 9:48am  

zzyzzx says

YesYNot says

Well, I don't know if the historical version of Antifa from Germany

I didn't say that I didn't know if they were from Germany. I said that I didn't know if they supported Stalin.
Here is the quote:
YesYNot says

Well, I don't know if the historical version of Antifa from Germany supported Stalin or not.

Did you misunderstand the sentence, or did you intentionally misinterpret it?

29   NuttBoxer   2017 Aug 16, 11:13am  

zzyzzx says

Do you support the ANTIFA movement

Isn't ANTIFA code for fascists?

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31   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Aug 16, 11:21am  

YesYNot says

So sad. Antifa was an organization that opposed Hitler's party. They got violent to oppose the violent wing of the Nazi party. Hitler won over the minds of the people and that led to WWII and the Holocaust. That site then blames Antifa for Hitler. Brilliant! Today, people are repeating history. So cliche.

Wrong. The German Communists seized the government of Bavaria and created the Bavarian Socialist Republic in 1919. They executed several people during their very brief rule.

Additionally, Communists and Anarchists committed many acts of violence in the Weimar Republic; that's why it was easy for Hitler to pull the Reichstag Fire, it was believable given the level of political violence.

32   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Aug 16, 12:12pm  

TwoScoopsMcGee says

Additionally, Communists and Anarchists committed many acts of violence in the Weimar Republic; that's why it was easy for Hitler to pull the Reichstag Fire, it was believable given the level of political violence.

I may be wrong as I don't know much about this. I was just responding to what I read from zzyzzx's link. I also don't really get the idea of blaming someone's actions on what that person is reacting to. One shouldn't blame Trump for Antifa and shouldn't blame Antifa for the alt-right idiots who marched in Charlottesville (Nazis and others). That would be like blaming the victim in an abusive relationship. People are responsible for their own actions, even if they are reacting to someone else.

33   Goran_K   2017 Aug 16, 12:15pm  

ANTIFA is neither peaceful nor anti-fascist.

They resemble the exact opposite IMO.

34   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 Aug 16, 1:54pm  

YesYNot says

People are responsible for their own actions, even if they are reacting to someone else.

Maybe. But if you want to tamp down Radical Nutjobs of any stripe, what's the worst thing you can do to them, their last hold on normal society and daily human interaction?

35   Dan8267   2017 Aug 16, 2:06pm  

Goran_K says

ANTIFA is neither peaceful nor anti-fascist.

Antifa is a violent gang of dumb ass, sexually repressed thugs looking for fights and looking to get laid. However, they are quite clearly anti-fascist. They aren't anti-tyranny, the little tyrants, but they are anti-fascist.

The problem is that you don't know what the word fascism means. Fascism does not mean tyranny. It means

a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

Antifa are anarchists. By definition, they cannot be fascists. They are also very prejudice against their own race. Again, contradicting the definition of fascist.

36   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 Aug 16, 2:20pm  

TwoScoopsMcGee says

YesYNot says

People are responsible for their own actions, even if they are reacting to someone else.

Maybe. But if you want to tamp down Radical Nutjobs of any stripe, what's the worst thing you can do to them, their last hold on normal society and daily human interaction?

Sometimes, it's ignore them. Often it's oppose them peacefully. But that is a matter of tactics, which is different from assigning blame. My biggest (not only) complaint with Antifa as I understand it is that their tactics are counterproductive. They figure that it is justified and best to fight fire with fire. They sound like Trump in that regard. But that tactic is often not effective.

37   Peter P   2017 Aug 16, 2:30pm  

Is it just me, but ANTIFA sounds like the name of some football (soccer) club.

38   🎂 Tenpoundbass   2017 Aug 16, 3:26pm  

Sounds like a bunch of Cucked Shitbirds that plant their nose in Commies crotches.
That's what it sounds like to me, I don't know. I don't live in a basement.

39   anonymous   2017 Aug 16, 3:29pm  

Tenpoundbass says

Sounds like a bunch of Cucked Shitbirds that plant their nose in Commies crotches.

That's what it sounds like to me, I don't know. I don't live in a basement.

Lol how can anyone get mad at you

40   Goran_K   2017 Aug 16, 4:09pm  

Dan8267 says

The problem is that you don't know what the word fascism means

No, that's incorrect. ANTIFA participant members do not know what the word fascism means.

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