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Why are you mocking aliens brought here as children, who built lives and friends here, and now are forced back to a nation they don't know?

By iwog following x   2017 Sep 5, 5:42pm 1,103 views   63 comments   watch   quote     share  

This place can be a mosh pit sometimes but I find it disturbing that some of you Turmpistas are taking so much glee in what is guaranteed to be tragedy and suffering.

How would you like to be ripped from your nice suburban home and deposited in the slums of Mexico when you don't know any other life or culture or values? A lot of these people don't even speak Spanish and you're going to jack off to the fact that they will be deported back to a country they can't even remember?

If you think they should be deported, you're dead wrong and your reasons why they should be deported are shit. That being said, I think a lot of you are lying about those reasons and secretly want revenge for all your little problems at home. "DEY TOOK AYRE JEBS!!!!!!!"

We are so fucking close what was featured in the Idiocracy movie now that it defies belief.

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24 WineHorror   2017 Sep 5, 8:20pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
iwog says
WineHorror says
If you keep making so much sense you're goi g to frighten iwog and he will leave.


LOL.....okay consider this an official request for all you people who have been butt-hurt by Iwog to please stop creating alts!!

I know it's tempting to launch, fail, and then pretend you're new again but stop it. At some point (like now) it just gets stupid.


Why would you cry about something like this anyway?
25 iwog   2017 Sep 5, 8:24pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
WineHorror says
Why would you cry about something like this anyway?


Because it's funny. I love it when people are so butt hurt over something I said that they attempt to troll me with alts. It's one of the few rewards from online chat boards.
26 WineHorror   2017 Sep 5, 8:26pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Quigley says
If so many people and a plurality of politicians are dead set against DACA ending, why don't they get off their butts and pass a citizenship decree for these Dreamers? Trump is just rescinding an executive order given by his predecessor. In guarantee that if Congress put a bill about this in front of him he would sign it.

Currently we have DACA young people as a permanent grou of second-class citizens. That's a good reason to end the program right there, as the 13th Ammendment ended slavery and several others guarantee equal protection under the law. So why are you defending the status quo of perma-plantation Mexicans? Shouldn't they be given real citizenship or be allowed a path to that?

On a personal note, I think that we've spent a lot of time and money educating these Dreamers and prepping them for the workforce. It would be wasteful to send them to Mexico now. I do hope Congress (and all those Democrats and never trumper Republicans can put their votes whe...


Wrong, wrong and wrong. In endless ways they have either cut in line, stole, yes stole, free shit and displaced other more deserving Americans simply for their status and/or the color of their skin because they're a special class of people. Yes, special class. It's called the minority class.

Tyranny by the minority. I thought Democracy worked the other way around. Man, the world is upside down.
27 BlueSardine   2017 Sep 5, 8:28pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Because it forces people like you into a 'public triggermania' seizure...
It's just fun to watch...

iwog says
Why do you think Trump supporters are so excited over innocent people being forced back to a country they have no ties to?
28 anonymous   2017 Sep 5, 8:41pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
iwog says
you should already know that Donald Trump is perhaps the most ridiculed man in the history of Western Civilization.


Delusional much?
29 lostand confused   2017 Sep 5, 8:41pm   ↑ like (3)   ↑ dislike (3)     quote        
Funny you had a thread a few days ago with a laughing icon about the same topic.
31 BorderPatrol   2017 Sep 5, 9:07pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
a lot of whites moved to Mexico and did fine. i'm sure these sewer rats will do fine.

chances are iwog is a gay man who hates Trump regardless of what he does.
32 iwog   2017 Sep 5, 10:11pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
BlueSardine says
Because it forces people like you into a 'public triggermania' seizure...
It's just fun to watch...


Define 'public triggermania seizure'. Is that something like "ALL THE POLLS ARE WRONG AND TRUMP IS OUR HERO AND RELECTION 2020!!"

Do you know how fucking ridiculous this is all going to look in 2019? I'm going to predict that half of you wont even be participating on this board by then due to simple embarrassment.
33 iwog   2017 Sep 5, 10:12pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
BorderPatrol says
chances are iwog is a gay man who hates Trump regardless of what he does.


Incorrect. You have 2 more guesses.
34 Patrick   2017 Sep 5, 10:17pm   ↑ like (3)   ↑ dislike (3)     quote        
I'm certain iwog is not gay, but he may indeed hate Trump regardless of what he does.
35 CBOEtrader   2017 Sep 5, 10:30pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Patrick says
I'm certain iwog is not gay, but he may indeed hate Trump regardless of what he does.


I'm still not sure what iwogs op is about.

You do understand that DACA may be approved by Congress and passed into law right? Giving Congress the mandate to do their job, OMG what a tyrant.

*eye roll*
36 errc   2017 Sep 5, 10:51pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
CBOEtrader says
Patrick says
I'm certain iwog is not gay, but he may indeed hate Trump regardless of what he does.


I'm still not sure what iwogs op is about.

You do understand that DACA may be approved by Congress and passed into law right? Giving Congress the mandate to do their job, OMG what a tyrant.

*eye roll*


I'll take a stab.

Out of all the wrongs we could right, how is this what is being championed? Little to no benefit, at the cost of causing great harm.

Why are the Trumpcucks cheering it home so loudly
37 jazz_music   2017 Sep 5, 11:55pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Patrick says
he may indeed hate Trump regardless of what he does.


iwog says Trump is going to make iwog much richer
38 YesYNot   2017 Sep 6, 3:48am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Quigley says
think that we've spent a lot of time and money educating these Dreamers and prepping them for the workforce. It would be wasteful to send them to Mexico now.

That was my reaction too. Let illegals spend 10 years here, and educate their kids for them, then send them all home just so some people can save a few bucks an hour for labor. Crazy. We paid for their educations. Let the kids stay and pay taxes. Kicking out 1 million young working kids is self defeating. It would surely be bad for the economy.
39 YesYNot   2017 Sep 6, 3:51am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Quigley says
If so many people and a plurality of politicians are dead set against DACA ending, why don't they get off their butts and pass a citizenship decree for these Dreamers?

I actually agree with this too. Although I think that it is stupid for trump to give congress another emergency item to deal with. Congress is pretty broken at the moment, and trump is a toxic factor making it more broken. I don't even think the debt ceiling, let's not default, item is a sure thing.
40 Blurtman   2017 Sep 6, 4:07am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
How often do you beat your wife?

It is not an issue of mockery, but of providing incentives for illegal immigration.
41 YesYNot   2017 Sep 6, 4:07am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
We generally don't punish kids for the sins of their parents. Ending daca seems like just that. Yes, they benefited from their parents illegal act. Many people benefited from their parents owning slaves, too. Ironically, some posts by trump supporters are using logic that could be applied in ways they would very much dislike.
42 CBOEtrader   2017 Sep 6, 4:22am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
errc says
Out of all the wrongs we could right, how is this what is being championed?


This should have been congress's decision in the first place. Allowing the lawmakers to do their job is important.

errc says
Little to no benefit, at the cost of causing great harm


Maybe but I haven't looked at the numbers. I am assuming you haven't either and are just pulling that out of your ass. Show us what you think you know.errc says

Why are the Trumpcucks cheering it home so loudly


I don't know who you are talking about nor do I pretend to read minds. How about you ask a "trumpcock" and see what he says.
43 joeyjojojunior   2017 Sep 6, 6:40am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
It's "Trumpcucks"
44 anonymous   2017 Sep 6, 6:57am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
iwog says
If you think they should be deported, you're dead wrong and your reasons why they should be deported are shit.


Interesting how a guy who works in a legal office has no respect for laws. Does your wife pick and choose which laws she will follow and which laws she will ignore when submitting a case?
45 WineHorror   2017 Sep 6, 7:16am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
null says
iwog says
If you think they should be deported, you're dead wrong and your reasons why they should be deported are shit.


Interesting how a guy who works in a legal office has no respect for laws. Does your wife pick and choose which laws she will follow and which laws she will ignore when submitting a case?


Of course she does, it's how government works.
46 Dan8267   2017 Sep 6, 7:38am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Patrick says
I'm certain iwog is not gay, but he may indeed hate Trump regardless of what he does.


I'm pretty sure Iwog hates Trump because of what he does.
47 BlueSardine   2017 Sep 6, 7:40am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
lemme think for a sec...just made it up...

iwog says
Define 'public triggermania seizure'.
48 YesYNot   2017 Sep 6, 7:54am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
null says
Interesting how a guy who works in a legal office has no respect for laws.

If DACA were illegal, there must have been a republican lawsuit and a Supreme Court decision proclaiming that it was illegal. Can you point out which decision it was? I'd like to read that.
49 errc   2017 Sep 6, 8:00am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Maybe but I haven't looked at the numbers. I am assuming you haven't either and are just pulling that out of your ass.

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Correct. You're proving my point. It's obvious from just a cursory glance that this is all just for show. But look how much it fires up the base. They obviously don't give a shit about the costs and benefits. It's the age old trick to fire up the Simps. "The evil brown invaders must be stopped!"
50 Quigley   2017 Sep 6, 11:26am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
YesYNot says
Congress is pretty broken at the moment, and trump is a toxic factor making it more broken


Congress is broken because we have establishment (both sides) vs. reformers. The establishment wants cheap labor from illegals, crony capitalism, globalism, lower wages, and higher rents. The reformers want higher wages and a stronger American economy.

And here's where the Trump factor comes into play. The Democrats have spent so much time and energy demonizing him and anything he's ever done or will do, they wouldn't agree with him if he said the sky is up and the ground is down. Probably call him a flat earther and xenophobic for not considering the perspectives of outer space aliens. So the Democrats who aren't batshit crazy and might be reformers have to kowtow to this idiotic party line of #resist, and therefore will never get anything done because everything will be a "no" vote.
Meanwhile the Republican Party is split perhaps 80/20 with establishment/reformers, so they ain't getting anything done on their own either. Unless the Democrats show some goddam leadership, this Congress is going down as the worst in modern history.
51 TwoScoopsMcGee   2017 Sep 6, 11:37am   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
Hey, if we can't have the Rule of Law for Undocumented Workers,

Why do we have the Rule of Law for Undocumented Products?

Violate IP and buy unlicensed products via Alibaba and Ebay today! Buy Canadian Drugs. Turnabout is fair play.

"No product should be illegal."
52 errc   2017 Sep 6, 11:45am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
And here's where the Trump factor comes into play. The Democrats have spent so much time and energy demonizing him and anything he's ever done or will do, they wouldn't agree with him if he said the sky is up and the ground is down. Probably call him a flat earther and xenophobic for not considering the perspectives of outer space aliens. So the Democrats who aren't batshit crazy and might be reformers have to kowtow to this idiotic party line of #resist, and therefore will never get anything done because everything will be a "no" vote.

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Remember Obama? The Republicans shut down the government and the Teatards were born
53 drBu   2017 Sep 6, 11:46am   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
Quigley says
If so many people and a plurality of politicians are dead set against DACA ending, why don't they get off their butts and pass a citizenship decree for these Dreamers?

Simple answer. Politicians have an issue that will rile up their base from both sides. They will milk this issue as long as possible.
54 dublin hillz   2017 Sep 6, 11:56am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
I believe that hardly anyone from ending of DACA will be deported. Not only that but in the unlikely event that government tries that, those that work for multinational companies will likely be provided with "legal council" to fight against deportation. This whole move was meant to placate the base that he overturned Barack's executive order.
55 YesYNot   2017 Sep 6, 2:44pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Quigley says
Congress is broken because we have establishment (both sides) vs. reformers.

IMO Congress is broken because the members (especially in the House) represent different groups with increasingly diverging opinions. So, each member of Congress can have an approval rating of 40-60% and obstruct all sorts of things, while the body as a whole has an approval rating of 15% or whatever it is now and doesn't get anything done. Each member has no incentive to compromise. The centrist is dead.
The President usually has some ability to persuade people, especially early in their terms. Even Dems were willing to work with Trump on some things (e.g. infrastructure). But he bullied that willingness out of them (health care and personal insults) before moving on to picking fights with the Republicans. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem to think that Trump represents a reform of the government to remove corporate lobbyists from power and you call the 'bought and paid for' pols the establishment. Perhaps you are hoping he will primary the rest of the bad apples. I believe you've been sold a bill of goods.
56 rpanic01   2017 Sep 6, 3:17pm   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
The most damage illegals have done and the first thing they wrecked were the schools. School by school district by district they have ruined most of the schools in Los Angeles. I have no pity for there plight, they should to be mad at their parents not the US or its citizens.

Before congress does anything they need to enable the laws that it already had passed to be enforced instead of ignoring them.
57 PeopleUnited   2017 Sep 6, 6:35pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Dan8267 says
Patrick says
I'm certain iwog is not gay, but he may indeed hate Trump regardless of what he does.


I'm pretty sure Iwog hates Trump because of what he does.


I'm pretty sure Iwog hates Trump because haters gonna hate.

58 iwog   2017 Sep 6, 6:57pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
rpanic01 says
The most damage illegals have done and the first thing they wrecked were the schools.


1. How specifically did they damage the schools?
2. How did you calculate the net benefit to American citizens from having them picking the fields at $1 an hour, a benefit ALL Americans have taken advantage of?
3. Illegals can't collect Social Security however the employer, generally a farm or a hotel, always collects the SS tax which the government keeps at a 100% rate. How much does this revenue offset the increased costs in other areas?

I don't believe you've considered any of these questions before.
59 rpanic01   2017 Sep 7, 10:01am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
iwog says
rpanic01 says
The most damage illegals have done and the first thing they wrecked were the schools.


1. How specifically did they damage the schools?
2. How did you calculate the net benefit to American citizens from having them picking the fields at $1 an hour, a benefit ALL Americans have taken advantage of?
3. Illegals can't collect Social Security however the employer, generally a farm or a hotel, always collects the SS tax which the government keeps at a 100% rate. How much does this revenue offset the increased costs in other areas?

I don't believe you've considered any of these questions before.


1. They almost never speak English and are put in ESL classes. They need more help because their parents do not have the ability to help them with school work. Almost 100% of them are on free lunch. A lot of them are bussed to other schools to handle the burden. They have the highest dropout rate. Parents do not keep them home when they are sick. All of these things add costs to a school district that gets taken away from everyone else. Once a school hits a certain amount all the parents that can, the parents that care about and have the means to leave do making the situation even worse.
2. I am tire of hearing this “who is going to pick the fruit bullshit” last time I looked around Los Angeles and other major cities I don’t see any farms. If we are going to need temporary workers for crops we can go back to the system of holding a portion of their wages back in their home country. Either way they should have a work visa and not have entered the US illegally.
3. So what how much in taxes are being held, an illegal drops and anchor baby or brings a kid right off the bat that kid will cost around 12k a year to go to school almost all of them have more than one kid, there is no way that much in taxes were taken. And that doesn’t even count all the other services they are draining. There is no way the money that gets held from using there fake SS numbers even puts a dent into the amount they are draining.

Trust me I have put a lot of thought into this growing up in Los Angeles. The schools my parents went to are now 99% Hispanic and a huge shithole, they moved 10 miles to a nicer city for me to have a safe school to go to and now it is 97% Hispanic 100% free lunch and massive amount in ESL. Both schools have dropped in test scores just like all the other schools across LA. Now I live 35 miles away from where I went to school to be in a good school district for my kids. It doesn’t just hurt whites, all of my Hispanic friends that have families that have been here for generations have also been fleeing and feel like they are getting a bad rap from the illegals that have been swarming in since the 70s. I am not even that old but when I was kid we had paper routes, landscaping, and all sorts of other small jobs we could do; now they are all taken over by illegals driving around in beat up old 1985 Toyota pickup trucks.
60 SpecialSnowflake   2017 Sep 7, 10:13am   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
So if they don't know the nation were their parents are from and don't speak the language it's up to their parents to accompany their kids and help them to adapt. Win-win-win.
61 NuttBoxer   2017 Sep 7, 11:21am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
iwog says
Why are you mocking aliens brought here as children, who built lives and friends here, and now are forced back to a nation they don't know?


Agreed. Too often now days we seem to take joy in others suffering.

But I will say the situation for these illegals is one they are responsible for. They or their parents could have applied for citizenship, as many Mexicans I personally know have. They made a bad choice and will suffer the consequence of that, sadly.
62 iwog   2017 Sep 7, 11:23am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
SpecialSnowflake says
So if they don't know the nation were their parents are from and don't speak the language it's up to their parents to accompany their kids and help them to adapt. Win-win-win.


I don't even think you understand the topic. Most of these people aren't kids. They are grown adults who were brought here as children and they don't know any other world. In some cases the parents have passed away.

Anyway my position on this is that combined with Trump's new priority rankings, deporting these people will mean leaving criminals inside the country longer. This is asinine policy and no one should support it.
63 SpecialSnowflake   2017 Sep 7, 12:39pm   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
iwog says

I don't even think you understand the topic. Most of these people aren't kids. They are grown adults who were brought here as children and they don't know any other world.


Millions of grown people move from country to country every year and adapt just fine. This fake drama is getting tiresome.

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