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Hurricane Irma Watch

By Quigley following x   2017 Sep 6, 1:49pm 540 views   26 comments   watch   quote     share  

So all we have so far is Dan's thread on this and he's banned half the site so I'm starting a new thread to post updates and interesting things about the biggest hurricane this century.

Anyone live in the path? What are you doing to prepare? I have some relatives in Miami area so I'll check with them to see how it goes. Post anything relevant but perhaps nothing too political this time.

1 errc   2017 Sep 6, 1:54pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
I had a large wager on the Fins against the Bucs that will now be refunded. Life just ain't fair
2 Ceffer   2017 Sep 6, 2:15pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
errc says
I had a large wager on the Fins against the Bucs that will now be refunded. Life just ain't fair

That's pretty fair, you broke even.
3 errc   2017 Sep 6, 2:16pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Ceffer says
errc says
I had a large wager on the Fins against the Bucs that will now be refunded. Life just ain't fair

That's pretty fair, you broke even.


Ain't nothing worse than a push, for an action junkie
4 Ceffer   2017 Sep 6, 2:24pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Maybe the bookies will be taking odds on Irma vs. Miami.
5 lostand confused   2017 Sep 6, 2:26pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
My relatives were supposed to go on a cruise-but it got canceleld-luckily they din't fly yet.
6 Quigley   2017 Sep 6, 2:40pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
So far my relatives in Florida are split: some plan to leave, maybe tonight. Another one wants to stay. I think they should all leave. Storm like that is hard to survive if your house blows down.
7 APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE   2017 Sep 6, 3:40pm   ↑ like (4)   ↑ dislike (4)     quote        
All these hurricanes are just another hoax like global warming.

Everyone knows that.
8 BlueSardine   2017 Sep 6, 4:01pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
If you had bgamall backing ya id believe it
9 Tenpoundbass   2017 Sep 6, 4:14pm   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
I'm laughing at all of the idiots playing into the MSM's hands.
I'll take it serious Friday. If it's as powerful as they say(which I doubt!) and it stays the course. Nobody in their right mind would want to stay behind.
But where can you go? And how long can you stay there? It's going to suck for months before things return to normal.
That's if it hits us which I doubt it will.

In the meantime the people are going to feel stupid when it passes by and they bought all that water for nothing. One guy bought every single package of water on the pallet.(I saw that in video on the news today.) A guy brought a pallet of water out at a Publix just restocked. All of the water for that location. And some selfish (these are only the shits I call spicks). The selfish cocksuckers who stop in doorways and have conversations the cop an attitude when you ask them to move aside and let people in or out. These are the fuckers we can't have anything nice in South Florida our parks had to take out the picnic tables and the grills because these selfish cocksuckers drop their kids off at 10am to collect every picnic table and rope them all off together. And wait for the rest of their clan to show up 2pm. In the meantime they have 4 tables with nothing more than a mere towel on it, to suggest they own the table for the day. So the park division just took them out fuck it! These are the Idiots the selfish sacks of shit that grabs every goddamned package of bottled water and gaboons them on a service dolly. While the other Gopnick employee sits there and just watches it and says nothing.
And if the storm is as powerful as they say it is. Those bottles will all just be more projectiles in their neighborhood, after their roof blows away and the 50 foot swell carries them away.

But I'll know more what I'm working with Friday. I'm not going out there in that MSM whiped up rabble They are fearing for their lives, the only way they know how. At the Check out line at Publix and HomeDepot.
10 Strategist   2017 Sep 6, 4:33pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Tenpoundbass says
I'm laughing at all of the idiots playing into the MSM's hands.
I'll take it serious Friday. If it's as powerful as they say(which I doubt!) and it stays the course. Nobody in their right mind would want to stay behind.
But where can you go? And how long can you stay there? It's going to suck for months before things return to normal.
That's if it hits us which I doubt it will.


Some of those who stay behind will end up as statistics. Just take the family and get the hell out. You can always come back after a few days.
11 Quigley   2017 Sep 6, 4:37pm   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
Well, let us know how it turns out Bass
12 BayAreaObserver   2017 Sep 6, 5:07pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
What victims of Hurricane Harvey can learn from Katrina as rebuilding begins. Guess this will now apply to Florida and other states on the East Coast as well.

While many economists are trying to determine the disaster’s overall toll – certain to be significant – a topic less explored is the financial impact on Harvey’s victims.

In recent research I co-authored with economist Daniel Hartley, we provide some of the first victim-level evidence of the financial impact of a costly flood. Specifically, we examined financial data for victims of Hurricane Katrina in 2005.

Flooding’s toll

The data showed that prior to Katrina, total debt levels for nonflooded, least-flooded and most-flooded residents were on a similar upward trajectory. The overall level of debt was highest for residents in the nonflooded group, while that of residents in the other two groups were nearly identical.

What we found was that average debt for those who experienced the most flooding plunged within a few months of Katrina, falling about 25 percent. Meanwhile those who had the least flooding saw their debt briefly level off. Debt of those who didn’t encounter any flooding, on the other hand, continued to rise unabated.

Beginning about a year after Katrina, the rate of debt accumulation for all three groups returned to the pre-storm trend.

Breaking down the debts

Breaking down the data into specific types of borrowing, we found that it was primarily a sharp drop in home loan debt that accounted for the overall change.

After controlling for several socioeconomic and demographic factors and pre-Katrina flood risk, we saw that home debt decreased by about $12,000 for the most-flooded residents relative to those who experienced none.

Role of flood insurance

Homeowner decisions to use flood insurance to pay down home loan debt accounts for most of the reduction. Around 25 percent of victims with a home loan in the most-flooded group paid it off within six months of Katrina.

Using flood insurance to pay off a home loan made financial sense for some. About two-thirds of homeowners in New Orleans had such insurance.

Assuming a home is fully insured, a flood insurance check would cover the cost to rebuild it. But in many neighborhoods of New Orleans prior to Katrina, reconstruction costs of homes exceeded their worth, in which case it made sense to purchase a similar home elsewhere at a lower cost rather than rebuild. When this occurred, any existing mortgage debt had to be paid off first.

Some homeowners, however, appear to have made this decision to pay off mortgage debt due to pressure from lenders, which is both illegal and probably a poor financial decision. We found evidence consistent with accounts that lenders, particularly national banks without a strong local presence, pressured some homeowners to pay off mortgages using flood insurance money.

What it means for Harvey victims..

More including graphs etc. http://theconversation.com/what-victims-of-hurricane-harvey-can-learn-from-katrina-as-rebuilding-begins-83184
13 Ceffer   2017 Sep 6, 5:27pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says
All these hurricanes are just another hoax like global warming.


Irma is just another false flag for the global warming nutters. Third world countries look like that even without a hurricane.
14 HEY YOU   2017 Sep 6, 5:47pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says
All these hurricanes are just another hoax like global warming.

Everyone knows that.


I didn't know that but I learned today!

Ceffer says
Third world countries look like that even without a hurricane.

Everyone should see my neighborhood & nothing unusual has happened.
15 anonymous   2017 Sep 6, 6:27pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Quigley says
So all we have so far is Dan's thread


Isn't Dan in the direct path if it tracks North from Miami?
16 PeopleUnited   2017 Sep 6, 6:43pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Ceffer says
global warming nutters


These normal climate deniers are ignoring all the facts and peer reviewed research that the temperature of the hot air from Al Gore's ass has actually decreased since he installed the bidet in his mansion.
17 TwoScoopsMcGee   2017 Sep 6, 6:50pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
If you have elderly relatives like mine in South Florida, they are recommending they arrive at the shelter 2 days prior. They want to get everybody ready and medical records and care prepped before the storm makes landfall.
18 TwoScoopsMcGee   2017 Sep 6, 6:51pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Tenpoundbass says
That's if it hits us which I doubt it will.


Everybody is like "The weatherman said it won't turn, coming straight for us", actually, hurricanes usually are tough to predict more than 24 hours out. 5 days out, forget it. It could easy go over Hispaniola or Cuba and make for Central America.
19 Quigley   2017 Sep 6, 8:23pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
From a friends FB post: she's been driving for 11 hours and still hasn't made it out of Florida. Four more hours to go.
20 steverbeaver   2017 Sep 6, 8:39pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Well, good luck and good fun to those in its path.
21 Strategist   2017 Sep 6, 8:42pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Quigley says

From a friends FB post: she's been driving for 11 hours and still hasn't made it out of Florida. Four more hours to go.


The best time to leave would be at 2am when there is less traffic.
22 Quigley   2017 Sep 6, 8:46pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
I think pretty soon there won't be a best time. I fear a lot of people will be caught in a freeway parking lot when the hurricane arrives.
23 BayAreaObserver   2017 Sep 7, 2:03am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Best intentions: When disaster relief brings anything but relief. The aftermath of Hurricane Harvey reminds us all over again that when Nature grows savage and angry, Americans can get generous and kind. That's admirable. It might also be a problem.

"Generally after a disaster, people with loving intentions donate things that cannot be used in a disaster response, and in fact may actually be harmful," said Juanita Rilling, former director of the Center for International Disaster Information in Washington, D.C. "And they have no idea that they're doing it."

Rilling has spent more than a decade trying to tell well-meaning people to think before they give.

More: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/best-intentions-when-disaster-relief-brings-anything-but-relief/
24 CBOEtrader   2017 Sep 7, 6:12am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Tenpoundbass says
In the meantime the people are going to feel stupid when it passes by and they bought all that water for nothing.


Water costs $5/pallet. It's about the best risk investment you could make. Taking the time to go on a mini vacation would also be a good risk control measure. Ask the people of Houston.
25 BayAreaObserver   2017 Sep 7, 4:40pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
How flood insurance works: 6 questions answered.

What is flood insurance? Homeowners’ insurance does not cover damage to a home caused by flooding. A homeowner must have a separate policy to cover flood-related losses, defined as water traveling along or under the ground.

How many American homeowners have flood insurance? It is difficult to determine exactly how many homeowners have flood insurance. The National Flood Insurance Program had just under five million policies in force as of June 30. Of these policies, approximately 68 percent were on single-family homes and 21 percent on condo units.

Why do people at great risk of flooding forgo insurance? A number of factors affect a homeowner’s decision to buy flood insurance (or not). People who perceive that their exposure to floods is high are more likely to buy it, all other things equal. And the mandatory purchase requirement forces owners of mortgaged homes located in Special Flood Hazard Areas – areas at high risk for flooding – to buy insurance. However, 43 percent of homeowners incorrectly believe that their homeowners’ insurance covers them for flood losses.

What does flood insurance cover? With a National Flood Insurance Program policy, a homeowner can purchase coverage on a dwelling up to US$250,000 and the contents of a home up to $100,000. It does not cover costs associated with “loss of use” of a home.

Why is the National Flood Insurance Program underwater? The National Flood Insurance Program has faced considerable criticism over its underwriting and pricing policies, which have resulted in a substantial debt. Essentially, its premiums are not high enough to cover how much it pays out on claims and its other costs.

Part of the problem is that about 20 percent of the properties the program insures pay a subsidized rate. But many other National Flood Insurance Program policyholders are also paying premiums substantially less than what it costs to insure them because the rates do not adequately account for the catastrophic losses incurred during years when more major storms than normal strike, such as Katrina and Rita in 2005 and Sandy in 2012. As a result, the National Flood Insurance Program owes an accumulated debt of $25 billion to the U.S. Treasury.

What can be done to fix the program? Legislative efforts to reform the National Flood Insurance Program to put it on firmer fiscal footing have produced mixed results.

More Including Lots of sub links for additional information on each of the 6 questions: http://theconversation.com/how-flood-insurance-works-6-questions-answered-83187
26 BlueSardine   2017 Sep 7, 5:22pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Galatians 6:7 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows.

null says
Quigley says
So all we have so far is Dan's thread.
Isn't Dan in the direct path if it tracks North from Miami?

Dan8267 says

Hey Blue Sardine, have you ever thought about dying of natural causes, since it's illegal for me to advocate suicide?

Does auto-erotic asphyxiation count as natural causes? Because I've got a bet on that in the dead pool.

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