By failing to repeal Obamacare, failing to replace Obamacare, or failing to fix Obamacare, Republicans are causing huge problems and misery
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By failing to repeal Obamacare, failing to replace Obamacare, or failing to fix Obamacare, Republicans are causing huge problems and misery

By anonymous following x   2017 Sep 12, 9:19am 2,390 views   61 comments   watch   quote     share    


It's September. Fucking September and your glorious party "of the people" has simultaneously left the law on the books AND cut funding. There are dozens of articles published this morning due to the bipartisan effort to bail out (yes this is absurd) Obamacare for another year however this is just the tip of a very vile iceberg of uncertainty and chaos that the Republicans have willingly brought upon the country.

- http://www.azcentral.com/story/money/business/health/2017/09/12/trumps-obamacare-budget-cuts-leave-arizonas-aca-workers-limbo/654177001/
- http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/350169-gop-chairman-bipartisan-health-care-proposal-a-bail-out-of-obamacare
- https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-12/obamacare-heavyweight-anthem-weighs-retreating-from-more-states
- http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20170911/NEWS03/170919986/blue-cross-to-small-biz-were-officially-leaving-obamacare-exchange
- http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/350107-house-dems-accuse-trump-administration-of-obamacare-sabotage

You vote ignorance, you pay the price. You let a failed Republican party run the country and everything goes to hell. Is this what you wanted? Who do you blame NOW? Look in the mirror please.

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22   HEY YOU   ignore (7)   2017 Sep 12, 1:29pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

As long Trump & his ilk do anything that hurt Rep/Con/Nazis,it's cool.
How many Rep/Con/Nazis will have to use ACA benefits because of Irma?

Fucking White Male says
I don't know about pain and misery, but the Republicans In congress are certainly pissing me off for not sticking to their promises.

Would "sucker" be appropriate at this time?
23   iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Sep 12, 2:44pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

zzyzzx says

A lot of people would say that rent-seekers like yourself should vote.


They would be correct.

zzyzzx says
At least I made my own fortune. My understanding is that you married into it.


Your understanding is grossly incorrect however it doesn't really matter. Where I got my money isn't part of any argument but you're butt hurt so you're going to try to make it an issue.
24   iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Sep 12, 2:47pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

WineHorror says
Iwog, I think you may be brain dead. You you call Trump a moron but who is the moron that signed Obamacare?


Obamacare was flawed but at least it was an attempt to get everyone in the country insured under a health care plan.

The real solution, the "public option", was repeatedly attacked and ridiculed by Republicans and eventually ended up dead.

I give Democrats credit for trying to do something. Republicans simultaneously want to get rid of Obamacare and refuse to get rid of Obamacare. I consider that gross incompetence to be far far worse.
25   Tenpoundbass   ignore (6)   2017 Sep 12, 2:50pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

I blame this Cunt.

I bet she would tell you the same thing, if you catch her before her fried brain medication they give her for 4 stage Politician disease.
26   iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Sep 12, 2:52pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Tenpoundbass says
I blame this Cunt.


You do??? Trump's ally in congress?? The woman who decided on the budget for the next three months?

You better get on the phone to Trump and tell him she's a cunt. He's apparently too stupid to realize he shouldn't be doing business with her.
27   socal2   ignore (0)   2017 Sep 12, 3:13pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

iwog says
I give Democrats credit for trying to do something.


The road to hell is often paved with the best intentions. Politicians "just doing something" is a case in point.

Democrats OWN Obamacare. They passed it in such a way (without a single Republican vote) that allows it to die on its own. Democrats apparently thought they wouldn't lose future elections and wouldn't need Republican votes to keep bridging the shortfall of the exchanges.

Some hard lessons are being learned. If we are going to massively overhaul something as large, complex and as important as our healthcare system, we better do it with some bipartisan support.
28   anonymous   ignore (4)   2017 Sep 12, 3:21pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

So Iwog, are you finally admitting that Obamacare is a disaster for our nation?
29   iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Sep 12, 3:27pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

socal2 says
The road to hell is often paved with the best intentions. Politicians "just doing something" is a case in point.


Oh bullshit. Republicans blocked Hillary's plan during the Clinton years because fuck you. They had no alternative and when Bush became president with a Republican majority in both houses, they didn't do anything. Then Obama came to power with a mandate and Democrats FINALLY attempted reforms which Republicans vehemently attacked and refused to even ask for anything.

Now here we are with Republicans in charge once again and they can't reform, replace, or remove Obamacare.

This has been an utter failure by Republicans since the 1990s. They are the party of failure.
30   iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Sep 12, 3:30pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

anonymous says
So Iwog, are you finally admitting that Obamacare is a disaster for our nation?


Nope, I'm saying that you can't de-fund Obamacare like Trump did and not have the thing collapse. As much as you'd like to force this debacle into the Democratic camp, you'll never be able to do it.

Obamacare needed to be fixed or replaced or at the very least repealed so Americans could see what disgusting vile pieces of shit Republican politicians are. Instead they pull funding and then watch it all burn down.

Republicans are cancer. Republicans are the worst case scenario.
31   Satoshi_Nakamoto   ignore (0)   2017 Sep 12, 3:34pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

iwog says
The first solution is not to elect this moron in the first place.


I agree: no Obama - no Obamacare.
32   socal2   ignore (0)   2017 Sep 12, 3:36pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

iwog says
They had no alternative and when Bush became president with a Republican majority in both houses, they didn't do anything.


Uh - because it wasn't a huge crisis for the majority of Americans.

Before Obama and the Democrats fucked everything up, the majority of Americans were satisfied with their healthcare.

*Majority of Americans Satisfied With Their Healthcare Plans*
http://www.gallup.com/poll/102934/majority-americans-satisfied-their-own-healthcare.aspx
33   TwoScoopsMcGee   ignore (1)   2017 Sep 12, 3:41pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Quigley says
So far that hasn't happened, and I can't help but think it's because he won't let go of the issue and wants to do this his own way.

He wants to do it in a way that will take the responsibility of health insurance off the back of the employer... ;)
34   iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Sep 12, 4:11pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

socal2 says

Before Obama and the Democrats fucked everything up, the majority of Americans were satisfied with their healthcare.


I'll say this much. Your comments are consistently absurd no matter what the topic.
35   errc   ignore (2)   2017 Sep 12, 4:29pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

TwoScoopsMcGee says
Quigley says
So far that hasn't happened, and I can't help but think it's because he won't let go of the issue and wants to do this his own way.

He wants to do it in a way that will take the responsibility of health insurance off the back of the employer... ;)


Care to elaborate?
36   anonymous   ignore (4)   2017 Sep 12, 7:05pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

iwog says
You're not qualified in the first place and you've got the mental maturity of a 13-year old as demonstrated above.


What is the mental maturity of a guy posting daily TDS threads that have no basis in reality? (Except in HIS head)
37   Booger   ignore (0)   2017 Sep 12, 7:24pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

iwog says
Obamacare was flawed but at least it was an attempt to get everyone in the country insured under a health care plan.


Health insurance and health care are two different things. Current high deductible plans that most working people have are only useful in catastrophic situations, and otherwise pretty much the same as not having any health insurance at all. Obamacare only made this much worse.
38   errc   ignore (2)   2017 Sep 12, 7:41pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

I don't get why they call it health insurance in the first place.

Sending off obscene amounts of money every month to private companies whose business model is to deny paying your medical bills, isn't health insurance at all. It's just a Republican scam to screw the halfwits that comprise their voter base out of their last few sheckles. That's why I accurately call it Heritage Foundation Care, because it doesn't get any more Republican than this. That and they wrote the bill, lol.

"We don't understand why the Republicans have no plans to repeal and replace."

You should pay more attention. Why would they repeal their own system of extortion?
39   bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Sep 12, 7:45pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

socal2 says

*Majority of Americans Satisfied With Their Healthcare Plans*


Were the 45 million without health care satisfied with their health care plan?
40   mell   ignore (1)   2017 Sep 12, 8:15pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

errc says
I don't get why they call it health insurance in the first place.

Sending off obscene amounts of money every month to private companies whose business model is to deny paying your medical bills, isn't health insurance at all. It's just a Republican scam to screw the halfwits that comprise their voter base out of their last few sheckles. That's why I accurately call it Heritage Foundation Care, because it doesn't get any more Republican than this. That and they wrote the bill, lol.

"We don't understand why the Republicans have no plans to repeal and replace."

You should pay more attention. Why would they repeal their own system of extortion?


Agreed but with a private market you at least have the choice to maybe find one that has the least resemblance to that business model. And you can't make much money by telling the patient to lose 40 lbs and go on a low carb, high fat and moderate protein diet. Insurance should cover catastrophical costs only. Everything else should be customized and certainly not mandatory to be subsidized. Obamacare made Heritage Foundation Care mandatory, which is at least equally bad, likely worse.
41   errc   ignore (2)   2017 Sep 12, 8:28pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

The best option for a Capitalist is to avoid American Health Insurers altogether.

Invest the money you save in equities instead, and make healthful dietary and lifestyle choices. In the rare instance that you actually need healthcare services, take holiday to Mexico or any other third world country and save butt loads of money while receiving superior services. And you get a vacation and capital accretion as bonus
42   anonymous   ignore (4)   2017 Sep 12, 9:07pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

bob2356 says
Were the 45 million without health care satisfied with their health care plan


How many people don't have insurance today? How about 35 million. So Obama rewrote the complete healthcare laws to get maybe 10 million coverage? Many of the 10 mill ended up on Medicaid, which you are paying for.

Meantime, 100+ million got redirected to high premium, high deductible, high coplay plans.

Were those 100+ million satisfied?
43   freespeak   ignore (5)   2017 Oct 15, 7:40pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Everything government touches turns to crap.
45   HEY YOU   ignore (7)   2017 Oct 24, 10:47am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

"Trump's 'Obamacare' budget cuts leave Arizona's ACA workers in limbo" -azcentral

All the Republicans that lose jobs or have less than 40hrs./week can go to work at Trump's Mexico Carrier plant.

All those that can't pay cash really enjoy low premiums from the Redistributed Socialized health insurance companies,same way car insurance works?

Failure Socialist need to STFU about premiums.
46   errc   ignore (2)   2017 Oct 24, 10:51am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

zzyzzx says


Funny. You probably think you are scoring a point for Team Trumpcuck by illustrating how Trump has affected insurance rates. But like the rest of your ignorant lot, you probably think you’re placing blame on Obama, even though anyone with a brain knows that ACA is Heritage Foundation Legislation, and it doesn’t get more Republican than that
47   joeyjojojunior   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 24, 10:54am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

That's pretty obviously a photoshop anyway.
48   oil   ignore (4)   2017 Oct 24, 10:57am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

One of the things the government can't do is run anything. The only things our government runs are the post office and the railroads, and both of them are bankrupt.
49   bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 24, 12:03pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

anonymous says

Meantime, 100+ million got redirected to high premium, high deductible, high coplay plans.


Want to document how the ACA redirected 100+ million people to high premium, high deductible, high copay plans?

Now we listen to the crickets chirp for a long time.
50   zzyzzx   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 24, 12:15pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

errc says
Funny. You probably think you are scoring a point for Team Trumpcuck by illustrating how Trump has affected insurance rates. But like the rest of your ignorant lot, you probably think you’re placing blame on Obama, even though anyone with a brain knows that ACA is Heritage Foundation Legislation, and it doesn’t get more Republican than that


How many Republicans in Congress voted for Obamacare?
51   errc   ignore (2)   2017 Oct 24, 12:33pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

zzyzzx says
errc says
Funny. You probably think you are scoring a point for Team Trumpcuck by illustrating how Trump has affected insurance rates. But like the rest of your ignorant lot, you probably think you’re placing blame on Obama, even though anyone with a brain knows that ACA is Heritage Foundation Legislation, and it doesn’t get more Republican than that


How many Republicans in Congress voted for Obamacare?


Who wrote the Legislation?
52   errc   ignore (2)   2017 Oct 24, 12:35pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Better yet, why aren’t Republicans in Congress staying true to their word, and repealing and replacing ACA?
53   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   ignore (2)   2017 Oct 24, 12:54pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

errc says
Better yet, why aren’t Republicans in Congress staying true to their word, and repealing and replacing ACA?

Also, why hasn't Trump come up with anything? During the campaign, he said:
1. “I am going to take care of everybody. I don't care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody's going to be taken care of much better than they're taken care of now."
2. "I was the first & only potential GOP candidate to state there will be no cuts to Social Security, Medicare & Medicaid. Huckabee copied me," Trump tweeted on May 7, 2015.
3. Trump said the legislation would be "every bit as good on pre-existing conditions as Obamacare."
4. Trump said healthcare would be easy.
5. Trump promised to repeal and replace Obamacare on day one.

When are the Trumpcucks going to realize that the emperor is a lying windbag full of fantasy promises.
54   errc   ignore (2)   2017 Oct 24, 1:18pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

They’re Trumpcucks for a reason.
55   anonymous   ignore (4)   2017 Oct 24, 5:45pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

When the government's boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence.
57   oil   ignore (4)   2017 Oct 25, 4:32pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

That government is best which governs least.
58   anonymous   ignore (4)   2017 Oct 27, 1:16am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him.
59   bob2356   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 27, 5:47am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

bob2356 says
anonymous says

Meantime, 100+ million got redirected to high premium, high deductible, high coplay plans.


Want to document how the ACA redirected 100+ million people to high premium, high deductible, high copay plans?

Now we listen to the crickets chirp for a long time.


Like I said. Classic piggy duck and run.
60   oil   ignore (4)   2017 Oct 27, 5:57am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand.

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