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Donald Trump will fail to deliver on all of his key campaign promises in 2017

By iwog following x   2017 Sep 15, 9:52am 1,916 views   159 comments   watch   quote     share  

- Obamacare reform or repeal
- Wall
- Infrastructure
- Personal Tax reform
- Corporate tax reform
- Repatriation of illegals (deportations are actually down which is fucking amazing)
- Prosecute Hillary Clinton

The only citeable campaign promise he's "delivered" on is TPP which required him to basically do nothing. He also pulled out of the climate accord which also required that he do nothing.

So what has actually been accomplished?

- Crossed the $20 trillion debt threshold for the first time
- Massive increase in public discontent and racial violence
- GREATLY increased public support for Democrats in the 2018 election http://www.pollingreport.com/2018.htm
- Legitimized groups like BLM and insane feminazis
- Made the United States a laughing stock across the entire world
- Started North Korea launching missiles over Japan and conducting nuclear tests again
- Added "Twitter temper tantrum" to our lexicon
- Set a new record for firings and resignations within his own administration. Almost everyone now says they can't work with Trump.

Seriously WTF are you people doing? Is there one item on this list that you can dispute? I don't think so.

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120 iwog   2017 Sep 17, 10:30am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
mell says
It's always been a horrendous problem, also under DT. And as many pointed out, there's no budget yet and we're not even close to half time. You gave Obummer 8 years to mess things up, gotta give at least 2-4 to Orange.


Which budget in the last 8 years was Obama's and which ones came from the Republican congress that you worship?
121 TwoScoopsMcGee   2017 Sep 17, 12:20pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
iwog says

What budget did Obama get passed?

Money spent under Obama: "He was president! It's his fault! He should have known what he was getting into!"
Money spent under Trump: "It's not his fault! It's not his budget! Someone else is responsible!"

Vile hypocrisy.


What budget did Trump Submit, Sign, or Veto?

You want to let Obama off the hook, but nail Trump before the budget process even begins.

This is TDS
122 joeyjojojunior   2017 Sep 17, 12:50pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Nope--he just wants to point out the hypocrisy of Trump supporters and most Republicans in general. The point isn't to nail Trump at all. It's to show how all of you did an abrupt 180 as soon as Trump was elected.

It's quite funny.
123 iwog   2017 Sep 17, 1:16pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
TwoScoopsMcGee says
What budget did Trump Submit, Sign, or Veto?


You are so lacking in self-awareness that you're now attacking your own fucking argument and you can't see it. Let me see if I can make it more clear for you:

1.
- Iwog: "Obama had no control over prior spending so most of the debt created during his administration is not his fault."
- lostand confused: "It's his fault, he took the job, he should have known what he was getting into. I don't have to explain how he should have reduced spending."

2.
- lostand confused: "Trump had no control over prior spending so all of the debt created during his first 9 months is not his fault."
- Iwog: (repeating your asinine argument) "It's his fault, he took the job, he should have known what he was getting into. I don't have to explain how he should have reduced spending."

It's actually utterly spectacular when I lay it out like this. It's just stunning that you can't see it and I'm pretty sure all you're going to be able to come back with is "blah blah blah".
124 iwog   2017 Sep 17, 1:29pm   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
TwoScoopsMcGee says
You want to let Obama off the hook, but nail Trump before the budget process even begins.


Nope, you didn't read what I wrote carefully.

I don't think the new $20+ trillion national debt record is Trump's fault. I just want people on the right to have one tiny mote of consistency. Maybe just once?
125 anonymous   2017 Sep 17, 9:14pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
iwog says
Which budget in the last 8 years was Obama's


The one he signed. We've been over this again and again. How come you keep forgetting?
126 iwog   2017 Sep 18, 10:10am   ↑ like (3)   ↑ dislike (3)     quote        
anonymous says
The one he signed. We've been over this again and again. How come you keep forgetting?


Piggy, go fuck yourself.

So Donald Trump is going to fail to deliver on all his major campaign promises in 2017.

Any guesses on how many he's going to fail to deliver on in 2018?
127 TwoScoopsMcGee   2017 Sep 18, 10:16am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
iwog says

- Iwog: "Obama had no control over prior spending so most of the debt created during his administration is not his fault."
- lostand confused: "It's his fault, he took the job, he should have known what he was getting into. I don't have to explain how he should have reduced spending."


Obama DID have control over spending in the 8 years he was President. He can submit budgets, and he can VETO Spending Bills. There were also initiatives, like Obamacare, that increased spending and did not reduce it, because giving money to Aetna and Kaiser without Price Controls doesn't control healthcare spending.

Trump has yet to submit a budget or have a budget put in front of him, yet.

That's the difference, Iwog.

Now let's talk about how Charlotte, Ferguson, Treyvon Martin, etc. is that racial divide that is Trump's fault.

Did Obama invite BLM activists to the White House? Did he condemn Black Lives Matter? Did he condemn Radical Islamic Terrorism?

Speaking of consistency, if Obama refuses to condemn, that mean he signals his support, right? I mean, that's how the media treated Trump in the few hours before he condemned Neo-Nazis and the KKK. Obama steadfastly refused to condemn either BLM or Islamic Terror during his whole presidency, and capped it off by pardoning Puerto Rican Separatist Terrorists who killed innocent people.

Imagine if Trump invited Identity Europa to the White House to discuss Statues.
128 iwog   2017 Sep 18, 10:30am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
TwoScoopsMcGee says
He can submit budgets


All submitted budgets are DOA regardless if they come from Democrats or Republicans. I'm sick of fucking typing this and if you disagree with me, ADDRESS THE FUCKING POINT!!!!! Don't pretend I didn't destroy it then wait two days then make the exact same stupid ignorant corrupt point again. Fucking learn something and stop being a jackass. If you are incapable of giving a counter point to what I just proved is true, stop posting it!!!!

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/334731-mccain-trumps-budget-dead-on-arrival
TwoScoopsMcGee says
and he can VETO Congress.


When a president vetoes a spending bill, the government shuts down. It's a weapon of mass destruction. It harms everyone and it harms the economy. Because of this, presidents are VERY reluctant to use this tool and have only done so rarely. Obama used it to force Republicans to extend the Bush tax cuts only for people who make under 400k. Clinton used it to force Republicans to accept cuts in military spending and to prevent cuts in Medicaid. These are single, very large policy issues and often keystone campaign promises

Your claim that a president in opposition to congress can use a government shutdown to micro-manage a document as huge and massive as the federal governments budget is bloody ignorant and fuck you for being so stupid that you can't see this.

So here's what you would have seen done: "My name is Obama and I'm going to veto the budget and shut down the government indefinitely if I don't get these changes: (details 500 pages of changes)" You don't know what you're talking about, you're talking out of your ass, and you need to grow up.

TwoScoopsMcGee says
because giving money to Aetna and Kaiser without Price Controls doesn't control healthcare spending.


So you elected Trump to fix it. Nice job. Looks like the health care fix is just around the corner!!

TwoScoopsMcGee says
Now let's talk about how Charlotte, Ferguson, Treyvon Martin, etc. is that racial divide that is Trump's fault.


Straw man.

TwoScoopsMcGee says

Did Obama invite BLM activists to the White House? Did he condemn Black Lives Matter? Did he condemn Radical Islamic Terrorism?


Another straw man.
129 TwoScoopsMcGee   2017 Sep 18, 11:10am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
iwog says
All submitted budgets are DOA regardless if they come from Democrats or Republicans. I'm sick of fucking typing this and if you disagree with me, ADDRESS THE FUCKING POINT!!!!! Don't pretend I didn't destroy it then wait two days then make the exact same stupid ignorant corrupt point again. Fucking learn something and stop being a jackass. If you are incapable of giving a counter point to what I just proved is true, stop posting it!!!!


The President can't submit budgets to Congress? Yes or No.

He can't finger point if Congress rejects his budget? Sure he can.

iwog says

When a president vetoes a spending bill, the government shuts down. It's a weapon of mass destruction.


Oh dear me, let me get my smelling salts. You know what happened when the government "Shut Down?" Social Security Checks, Pensions, etc. all got mailed. Honestly, most people didn't notice jack shit, esp. outside the DC distortion field. I remember one day in Boston, the sun was shining, I got a coffee at Dunkies, I work got done, the T was moving, and I handed in a paper that day and celebrated with a Pizza and Booze. But the government was shut down, oh my!

There's a whole bunch of alternative measures that happen when the President vetoes a spending bill. Congress usually drafts something to keep the SS Checks flowing and the President rapidly signs it, both to avoid the real harm if those things don't arrive in the mail, and then the media tries to make it sound like disaster is imminent regardless.

iwog says

TwoScoopsMcGee says
Now let's talk about how Charlotte, Ferguson, Treyvon Martin, etc. is that racial divide that is Trump's fault.


Straw man.


Nope, totally relevant: It's part of your OP list that Trump created political and racial discord, which apparently didn't exist under Obama.

The Democrats and Media say if you don't condemn something very specifically and right away, it's like an endorsement. Since Obama never clearly condemned BLM or Radical Islamic Terror his entire Presidency, he must LOVE them by the Coastal Elite's own "consistent" standards.4

Let's stay consistent.
130 TwoScoopsMcGee   2017 Sep 18, 11:12am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Remember: POTUS who hasn't submitted or had a budget bill cross his desk: Clearly Responsible.
POTUS who was in charge through multiple budget seasons and had his proposal for massive new spending for Corporate Socialism approved: Totally Not His Fault.

Anything else is a straw man and inconsistent.
131 iwog   2017 Sep 18, 11:12am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
TwoScoopsMcGee says
The President can't submit budgets to Congress? Yes or No.


I addressed this and you refuse to comment on what I said. I was very specific. You're a coward and you're running away.
132 TwoScoopsMcGee   2017 Sep 18, 11:15am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
iwog says
I addressed this and you refuse to comment on what I said. I was very specific. You're a coward and you're running away.


Yawn, you accuse everybody engaging you of that.
133 iwog   2017 Sep 18, 11:16am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
TwoScoopsMcGee says
Yawn, you accuse everybody engaging you of that.


So what's your alternate explanation of why you can't address my point? You can't even state my point. You can't even object to my point.

All you can do is pretend I never made the point and run away because you're a coward.

I don't use the term lightly. It would probably fucking kill you to acknowledge what I wrote. Keep running.
134 iwog   2017 Sep 18, 11:21am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
I'll await you next post that once again will be totally devoid of any of the clear and concise points I made.

You can't disagree with them. You can't challenge them. All you can do is run away screaming and yell back over your shoulder the same bullshit you started the conversation with.
135 TwoScoopsMcGee   2017 Sep 18, 11:21am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
iwog says
So what's your alternate explanation of why you can't address my point? You can't even state my point. You can't even object to my point.


Not running at all.

The President can submit a budget. If it's DOA, the President can always say "Hey, I submitted a budget. Congress dicked it up."

I answered your point VERY SPECIFICALLY.

He can also VETO spending bills. "Real" Government Shutdowns never happen, no Congress or President would let SS Checks, Pentagon Salaries, Pensions and Food Stamps not go out. Only the bullshit fear mongering that a "real" government shutdown that will never happen voluntarily.

Stop acting like Obama was totally toothless because of Congress.
136 iwog   2017 Sep 18, 11:23am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
TwoScoopsMcGee says
The President can submit a budget. If it's DOA, the President can always say "Hey, I submitted a budget. Congress dicked it up."

I answered your point VERY SPECIFICALLY.


Yes you finally mentioned my point after being shamed about it for over a week. Unbelievably pathetic.

The president does say "I submitted the budget and congress dicked it up." Now explain what the fucking hell any of that has to do with the stone cold fact that the president submitting a budget has nothing whatsoever to do with the ACTUAL BUDGET THAT COMES OUT OF CONGRESS????

In your rush to prove your not a coward you forgot your damn point.
137 iwog   2017 Sep 18, 11:29am   ↑ like (3)   ↑ dislike (3)     quote        
TwoScoopsMcGee says
Stop acting like Obama was totally toothless because of Congress.


- Obama didn't sign the huge majority of spending that took place during his time in the White House. Most of it was done prior and most of it was done by Republicans.
- To accept your fucking stupid premise, Obama would have had to write legislation overturning prior legislation from Republicans. Claiming this is beyond idiocy.
- To accept your fucking stupid premise, Obama would have had to go against Democratic goals which during the worst recession in modern times was a non-starter.
- To accept your fucking stupid premise, Obama would have had to act in a way never before seen in any president from any party.
- To accept your fucking stupid premise, you would have to presume that this much budget cutting wouldn't have slammed us back into a severe recession, an event which clearly you would blame Obama for.

My guess is you wont address any of this and you'll run away again. You are a very bad American and you're helping bring this country down.
138 TwoScoopsMcGee   2017 Sep 18, 1:20pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
iwog says
- Obama didn't sign the huge majority of spending that took place during his time in the White House. Most of it was done prior and most of it was done by Republicans.

Did he veto it?

Did he not push to get any new spending in place during any part of his term?

iwog says
- To accept your fucking stupid premise, Obama would have had to write legislation overturning prior legislation from Republicans. Claiming this is beyond idiocy.


He needs to write legislation to veto a bill or submit a budget? No he doesn't.

iwog says
- To accept your fucking stupid premise, Obama would have had to go against Democratic goals which during the worst recession in modern times was a non-starter.


No clue what this means. Obama oversaw the weakest recovery in history. For his first few months in office, he had Congress as well.

iwog says
Yes you finally mentioned my point after being shamed about it for over a week. Unbelievably pathetic.


Can you explain why the DNC server isn't being rammed down the FBI's throat by the DNC itself yet?

iwog says
- To accept your fucking stupid premise, Obama would have had to act in a way never before seen in any president from any party.


No President has vetoed a spending bill in US History?

That's really pathetic. I've been begging for months and months on that one and haven't seen a single good answer, I finally gave up a little while ago.

But nevermind that, how about providing some evidence for your OP assertions that were asked for days ago on this thread?

You really don't want to do the racial/political discord one.

Obama dindu Nuttin' Wrong!
139 TwoScoopsMcGee   2017 Sep 18, 1:35pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
iwog says
The president does say "I submitted the budget and congress dicked it up." Now explain what the fucking hell any of that has to do with the stone cold fact that the president submitting a budget has nothing whatsoever to do with the ACTUAL BUDGET THAT COMES OUT OF CONGRESS????


What spending bill did Obama veto? Did he not introduce any new spending?

Does Obama have ANY culpability in the Debt or not? Stop acting like there was nothing he could do.
140 iwog   2017 Sep 18, 1:37pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
TwoScoopsMcGee says
He needs to write legislation to veto a bill or submit a budget? No he doesn't.


By definition a budget IS proposed legislation you jackass. You aren't even trying anymore.
141 TwoScoopsMcGee   2017 Sep 18, 1:39pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Still waiting on:


TwoScoopsMcGee says
You go first, you gotta whole bullet list of accusations up in the OP "What has actually been accomplished" to document.
TwoScoopsMcGee says
What steps did Obama take to stop the Kims from increasing their arsenal, developing smaller but stronger bombs, and longer range rockets, etc,? Sure weren't effective.
142 TwoScoopsMcGee   2017 Sep 18, 1:48pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
iwog says
By definition a budget IS proposed legislation you jackass. You aren't even trying anymore.

Re-read what I wrote:

iwog says
TwoScoopsMcGee says
He needs to write legislation to veto a bill or submit a budget? No he doesn't.


A POTUS does not need Congress to give him permission to veto a bill or submit a budget.

Did Obama meet with Boener and Ryan and agree to Spending Bills, or not?
143 iwog   2017 Sep 18, 1:51pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
TwoScoopsMcGee says
Re-read what I wrote:


TwoScoopsMcGee says
He needs to write legislation to veto a bill or submit a budget? No he doesn't.


Okay I re-read what you wrote. A budget is proposed legislation so the correct answer is yes he does.

By definition a budget IS proposed legislation you jackass. You aren't even trying anymore.
144 Dan8267   2017 Sep 18, 3:47pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
WookieMan says


This can also be said to the conservative right regarding Obama for the past eight years, and for whatever Democrat is president three years from now.
145 anonymous   2017 Sep 18, 6:55pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
iwog says
go fuck yourself.


Such a adult response when your narrative is proven wrong.
146 iwog   2017 Sep 18, 7:33pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
anonymous says
Such a adult response when your narrative is proven wrong.


Specifically how was my narrative proven wrong?
147 anonymous   2017 Sep 18, 8:40pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
anonymous says

Such a adult response when your narrative is proven wrong.


He gets proven wrong A LOT these days. I wonder if the only reason he continues to endure the beatings is that maybe he get paid to post his pro-DNC drivel.
149 iwog   2017 Oct 5, 10:20am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
The Rio Grande is the border between Texas and Mexico for 1200 miles. I did a little research and found out that most property owners along this border have a problem with the federal government prohibiting them from using their own land and fishing in their own river. Go figure.

Explain how Donald Trump is going to construct a double wall in the middle of the Rio Grande?
151 APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE   2017 Oct 5, 10:29am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
PRECEDENT! Trumpcunt is a side effect of the need of oligarchs in former USSR republics and mother Russia to launder 80 billion in stolen loot. That gagging sound you hear is the bankrupted fraud making good on the only promises that matter to the only constituents that matter.
152 CBOEtrader   2017 Oct 5, 10:29am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
iwog says
SPECIFICALLY what was it you think Obama could have done from the White House to reduce deficit spending?


He could have been an anti war leader instead of a fascist, for starters.

He could have eliminated any number of old, wasteful programs... you know... the same ones you still blame bush for throughout Obama's 8 years.

He could have implemented healthcare that made sense instead of the ACA that is destined to fail bigly. Or rather, already is failing bigly.

Thats just off the top of my head.
153 joeyjojojunior   2017 Oct 5, 10:42am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
iwog says
Explain how Donald Trump is going to construct a double wall in the middle of the Rio Grande?


He is an expert on eminent domain.
154 Tenpoundbass   2017 Oct 5, 12:29pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Correction Bannon and his crack shot Breitbart news team will have the Liberal an obstructionist Chicken Shit Cocksucker candidate in the next 3 elections.
We can't possibly fuck the Liberals as hard as they are tearing their own asshole up.
155 Tenpoundbass   2017 Oct 5, 12:29pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Why are you still in the Pariah party and on the wrong side of History Iwog?
156 iwog   2017 Oct 5, 12:40pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
CBOEtrader says
He could have been an anti war leader instead of a fascist, for starters.


Completely invalid since it's clear you have no comprehension of what "fascist" means. In that regard you're identical to Antifa.

CBOEtrader says
He could have eliminated any number of old, wasteful programs... you know... the same ones you still blame bush for throughout Obama's 8 years


You mean he could have broke the law and not spent money as prescribed by acts passed by congress and signed by the president? Brilliant.

CBOEtrader says
He could have implemented healthcare that made sense instead of the ACA that is destined to fail bigly. Or rather, already is failing bigly.


Apparently it makes sense to Republicans too!

You know what they say, if you're at a poker table and you can't figure out who the sucker is,....................................
157 CBOEtrader   2017 Oct 5, 12:58pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
iwog says
Completely invalid since it's clear you have no comprehension of what "fascist" means. In that regard you're identical to Antifa.


I think this is your way of acknowledging I have a great point. Go ahead and try to refute Obama being a war hawk fasictif you'd like to prove me wrong.
158 CBOEtrader   2017 Oct 5, 1:01pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
iwog says
You mean he could have broke the law and not spent money as prescribed by acts passed by congress and signed by the president? Brilliant.


No he could have either used executive powers or led the charge to pass legislation, but continue on with your word games. Again, point to CBO :)

iwog says
Apparently it makes sense to Republicans too!


Obamacare literally has Obama's name on it. He was the main force behind this garbage healthcare that is suffocating our middle class and small businesses. yet again, point to CBO.

3-0. Thanks for playing.
159 iwog   2017 Oct 5, 3:32pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
CBOEtrader says
iwog says
Completely invalid since it's clear you have no comprehension of what "fascist" means. In that regard you're identical to Antifa.


I think this is your way of acknowledging I have a great point. Go ahead and try to refute Obama being a war hawk fasictif you'd like to prove me wrong.


No, I'm very sorry but calling a president you disagree with a "fascist" absent of any fascism simply makes you as absurd and laughable as Antifa or any other fanatic who calls people fascists without thinking. It's not my way of acknowledging you have a great point, it's my way of pointing out that no one takes you serious nor should they.

CBOEtrader says
No he could have either used executive powers or led the charge to pass legislation, but continue on with your word games. Again, point to CBO :)


Yes folks, we have yet another Republican who doesn't know what an executive order is and how it's used. Also led the charge to pass legislation ROFLOL. For the 6 weeks Democrats could overcome a filibuster? Brilliant.

CBOEtrader says
Obamacare literally has Obama's name on it. He was the main force behind this garbage healthcare that is suffocating our middle class and small businesses. yet again, point to CBO.


Non-sequitur. You just spewed out a bunch of nonsense that had nothing to do with anything. Oh boy, it has his name. Hmmmmmmm.....compelling!

CBOEtrader says
3-0. Thanks for playing.


I'm absolutely sure you think you're brilliant but no one else does. You don't know what you're talking about and you're now on a fanatic level with TPB who sees fascists everywhere. It's very sad the country has come to this however take heart in knowing that the radical left calls YOU a fascist and they have just as much evidence to prove it as you do.

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