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War Between North Korea and the United States Is Inevitable


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2017 Sep 20, 4:34am   42,135 views  146 comments

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War Between The United States And North Korea Is Inevitable

I have been warning everyone for weeks that a miscalculation or a mistake is going to lead to a war between the US and North Korea that will result in the use of nuclear weapons in battle for the first time since 1945.
I promised myself that I would not watch the Ken Burns series Vietnam. After all, I had four friends killed there and some friends wounded. A Purple Heart certificate sits on the wall in my study. I broke the promise to myself. I watched the first two episode of the series yesterday. I focused on how four U.S. presidents saw Vietnam. Let me summarize what I saw:
President Eisenhower: He gave France hundreds of millions of dollars in support to keep them fighting in Vietnam. At one point, he was financing 80% of France’s costs to fight the war. France had over 100,000 casualties in Vietnam. President Eisenhower would not send US troops. He decided that the war was unwinnable.
President Kennedy: One quote in the show was most telling as follows:
“These people don’t like us. But if Vietnam falls to the Communists, I will lose the 1964 election.”
At the John F. Kennedy Library, I purchased a book: Vietnam Had Kennedy Lived. This is some heavy reading and quite scholarly. The conclusion is that Kennedy would have stayed in Vietnam until after the 1964 election and then started to wind down US involvement even if the North Vietnamese won.
President Johnson: Despite his humble background and education, Johnson’s biographer Doris Kearns Goodwin described him as a political genius. Johnson believed in The Domino Theory. In other words, if South Vietnam fell, Thailand, Cambodia, Malaysia, etc. would follow.
President Nixon: Alan Greenspan described Nixon as a dark and troubled man with a brilliant mind. President Nixon was a master of foreign affairs. He too believed in the Domino Theory.
With Johnson and Nixon strong believers in the Domino Theory, it was inevitable that Vietnam would be a long and a bloody war for the USA. North Vietnam won at the cost of some 3.25 million people killed. 20% of their territory is a “no man’s land” due to land mines and poisonous chemicals. After the Vietnam war ended in 1975, an additional 50,000 Vietnamese civilians were killed by land mines and unexploded ordinance.
Let us go to the present. Everyone thinks that Donald Trump is wild and irresponsible. Even if Hillary Clinton or Mike Pence were president, a war with North Korea would be inevitable. It would escalate to a nuclear conflict. The mindset is there as it was in Vietnam. It will start with some mistake or misunderstanding. It will quickly escalate into a nuclear exchange because that sort of firepower will be needed to destroy North Korea’s military capabilities.
Let me expose some fallacies as follows:
1) Kim Jung Un and his senior management team are phantoms hiding in heavily-fortified bunkers all the time. Wrong, they do appear in public. Rest assured that the following countries have “eyes on” Kim and his management team 24 hours a-day seven days a week:
The US
Japan
South Korea
China
Israel (Due to fear of North Korea sharing its nuclear technology with Iran.)
The dream of all these countries would be a stealth drone strike that would kill Kim Jung Un and his management team. If this happened the country would collapse.
2) Massive nuclear weapons will have to be employed with casualties in the range of 25 million plus. Nuclear weapons will be employed to “take out” military targets. My educated guess is one million casualties.
3) South Korea and Japan will be heavily damaged. There will be some casualties and damage in South Korea and Japan. China should be very concerned. When things get really irrational, North Korean nuclear weapons and poison gas might be used against China.
What will follow will be a temporary fall in world financial markets with a nasty recession to follow. Violent protests will erupt all over the world. These protests will make the Vietnam War protests seem pale in comparison.

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1   Tenpoundbass   2017 Sep 20, 5:40am  

It will be more like a mud hole stomping. Rocket Boy gets assassinated before that happens.
2   zzyzzx   2017 Sep 20, 7:25am  

anonymous says
what and who is going to fill the void ?


South Korea.
3   HEY YOU   2017 Sep 20, 8:50am  

anonymous says
At the end of the day who is going to benefit from all of the mayhem ? Somewhere there is a money trail that needs to be watched and followed.


How dare anyone insinuate that any official(Republicans/Democrats) would be concerned with how much money they can stuff in their pockets! lol
4   Tenpoundbass   2017 Sep 21, 6:38am  

anonymous says
Should said drone strike take place and take out Kim and his management team, what and who is going to fill the void ?


If a Drone strike does take place it will be a coordinated effort between China and their already on ground replacement for him.
China needs a buffer puppet token facing America's puppet token.
5   HEY YOU   2017 Sep 24, 10:01am  

AMERICA! We start wars anywhere we choose!

Be careful of spill over of the borders of China & Russia.
6   deepcgi   2017 Sep 25, 9:54am  

Remember in the Wizard of Oz when the wicked witch has Dorothy and Company surrounded on the castle walls with scary, snarling orc-looking guys on all sides? Dorothy takes out the queen with a bucket of water and everyone is staring slack-jawed at the pile of clothes with a pointy hat on top.

One of them looks up at Dorothy and says, in a baffled tone, “You killed her.”

North Korea is not like Afghani-resistance, or South American drug cartel types, or an Iraq full of religious zealots. They are going to yell, “Hail Dorothy. The Rocket Man is Dead! And please, take his broom with you.”

The danger is China. President Trump knows this, of course. It’s a dangerous gamble, but the pay-off would be huge.

When he said, “We will have no choice but to destroy North Korea”, it occurred to me instantly that he could do that without any massive military action at all. In fact, he would destroy South Korea at the same time...and create one united Korea, again.
7   Strategist   2017 Sep 25, 11:21am  

jazz_music says
deepcgi says
he would destroy South Korea at the same time...and create one united Korea, again.


Trump?

Trump will do all that?

That piece of shit effeminate liar's liar will do some pretty great things, eh? Why? because he's not burdened with any morals?


Because it's the right thing to. Unlike the other Presidents who kicked the can down the street, Trump has the balls to face those who want to harm us and get things done.
8   komputodo   2017 Sep 25, 2:38pm  

Now that I've been warned, what should I do?
9   Strategist   2017 Sep 25, 3:11pm  

anonymous says
"Trump has the balls to face those who want to harm us and get things done".

Like those really yuuggee beautiful deals he cut with the House of Saud ? Got it....MAGA


Strategists first law of wisdom.......When foolish enemy give gold, it be wise to take it.
10   deepcgi   2017 Sep 25, 11:21pm  

anonymous:

Wow. Wrong on all counts. What can I say to demonstrate that you are compartmentalizing me, and many others I’m sure? (scratches chin)

How about this...while I do believe in being voluntarily compassionate rather than encouraging socialism and a society of entitlements, that God can kiss my ass? I don’t care if the Big Guy is proud or not. I’d love to see Him send me to hell for not giving Him the credit for human accomplishments we should be proud we accomplished on our own and not out of fear of judgement. I suspect that one will catch you off guard.

How about that we can’t afford a damn war - even a righteous one. That we ARE in hyperinflation, but unlike the 1970’s it’s the investment class assets that are out-of-control. Like your real estate. Artificially inflated and protected. That both parties are irresponsible and selfish Keynesians who are going to force my children to suffer for their greed. That Trump is a perfect example of someone whose silver spoon was forged at the Federal Reserve.

I also can read between the lines. There is an undercurrent of fear preventing the reunification of Korea - that we need leverage in the South China Sea - and that we HAVE been letting the Chinese walk all over us and their own slave class for decades. The North Koreans hate their wicked witch. I’m convinced and impressed that our President knows it, and for all of the compassion that Obama supposedly had, he unquestionably ignored these problems and kicked them down the street.

Yep, Trump is a greedy a-hole who has gotten rich off of the Federal Reserve and Treasury Department collusion, but an amazingly fearless one in the face of world politics and modern political correctness.
11   Dan8267   2017 Sep 25, 11:24pm  

ohomen171 says
War Between North Korea and the United States Is Inevitable


Well, on the bright side, at least MASH will be rebooted.
12   Dan8267   2017 Sep 25, 11:25pm  

ohomen171 says
War Between North Korea and the United States Is Inevitable


Donald Trump, making America great again, if by great, you mean back into the cold war and the first war where we got our asses kicked.
13   bob2356   2017 Sep 26, 4:13am  

deepcgi says
That Trump is a perfect example of someone whose silver spoon was forged at the Federal Reserve.


The federal reserve produced the apprentice and used trumps name on golf courses? You learn something new every day on patnet. Trump was bankrupt in real estate, he only made money hustling reality tv and selling his name.
14   anonymous   2017 Sep 26, 6:28am  

Ah, the magic kingdom of bay area real estate, where limitless credit to corporations and colateralized debt somehow creates real productivity and growth! The national debt isn’t real. There is always money for the baby boomers. Follow, follow, follow, follow, follow the yellow brick road.

Oh look Toto, poppies. We must be in Afghanistan...or San Francisco, definitely not Kansas, that fly-over-country hives me the creeps.

No, I'm no neocon who wants to make war at any cost.
15   HEY YOU   2017 Sep 26, 11:09am  

Can't wait for war! Just think of all the possible scenarios.
16   anonymous   2017 Sep 26, 4:11pm  

Tenpoundbass says
It will be more like a mud hole stomping. Rocket Boy gets assassinated before that happens.


Gentle Reader,

Millions will die. It's just not fucking worth it.

Regards,
Roidy
17   anonymous   2017 Nov 2, 8:14pm  

Maybe the madman with nuclear bombs isn't North Korea.
18   Booger   2017 Nov 16, 6:23pm  

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/north-korean-soldier-who-defected-to-south-korea-stable-but-riddled-with-parasites-says-dr-lee-cook--1776307

Seoul, South Korea: A North Korean soldier shot multiple times while defecting to the South is in a stable condition but riddled with parasites that could complicate his chances of survival, his doctor said Thursday.
19   Strategist   2017 Nov 16, 6:33pm  

Booger says

Seoul, South Korea: A North Korean soldier shot multiple times while defecting to the South is in a stable condition but riddled with parasites that could complicate his chances of survival, his doctor said Thursday.


How come communist countries shoot their citizens for trying to escape?
I wonder what Jazz thinks.
20   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 2, 3:24pm  

It is now March, 2018 and no war.

In fact, it's been rather quiet.
21   RWSGFY   2018 Mar 2, 5:31pm  

Any second now....
22   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2018 Mar 2, 8:03pm  

TwoScoopsPlissken says
It is now March, 2018 and no war.

In fact, it's been rather quiet.


Maybe rocket boy figured out some way to suck his own cock and it’s kept him busy.
23   Strategist   2018 Mar 2, 9:59pm  

There will be no war. The only goal of Rocket Man is to be be in power and nothing else. A war war would destroy him. Eventually Rocket man will give up.
24   Y   2018 Mar 3, 6:09am  

is this a step up or down from a shithole??

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
Japan already provides billions in aid to shithouses
25   Shaman   2018 Mar 3, 7:57am  

TwoScoopsPlissken says
It is now March, 2018 and no war.

In fact, it's been rather quiet.


Rocketboy threatened the entire region with nuclear war if he wasn’t paid his traditional “protection” money. Rather than cave to this heinous racketeer as Obama, Bush, and Clinton did, Trump called his fucking bluff! And then insulted him, made him a laughingstock internationally, and called him out in public! Trump basically taunted him in every way possible, just DARING Kim Jong Un to do something!
As Leftists and chicken hawks fainted dead away, broadcasting their consolations to the petty dictator, Trump stood firm.

So Rocketboy was faced with either:
1)Declare war and face the end of his regime and power, probably ending in his own death
Or 2)Back the fuck off and cut his losses.

He (wisely) chose the second option.

Trump knew he was a coward and played on it. Now we all know that we have little to fear from the supposedly Krazy Korean. He will operate from self interest just like every other petty dictator, and we can trust in that.

Trump is keeping America’s pimp hand strong!
26   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 3, 9:08am  

Quigley says
As Leftists and chicken hawks fainted dead away, broadcasting their consolations to the petty dictator, Trump stood firm.


It was almost 1985 again, with Kim standing in for the Soviet Union.

"Reagan Raygun is crazy, saying mean shit. Don't piss off Gorbachev! We gotta get along. It's 1985, and the USSR will be around for a long time, we have to get along! Oh, give me my smelling salts and take me to the fainting coach, I am having an attack of Nerves, Mr. Willoughby."
27   Shaman   2018 Mar 3, 9:51am  

So, you’re looking forward to yet another Democrat coup attempt, which you expect will be enough to push the embattled POTUS to nuclear war. Doesn’t anything about your position cause even a bit of hesitation?
28   Shaman   2018 Mar 3, 9:53am  

Feux Follets says
be no winners, only losers


Well I’ll agree that the Democrats have proven themselves to be both sad losers and sore losers. Will they prove to be treasonous losers as well? You can hope!
29   Shaman   2018 Mar 3, 11:22am  

Well that makes me sad for you. And afraid lest by some diabolical machination, you ever gain a quantum of power.
30   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 8, 4:59pm  

Trump accepts Kim Jong Un's invitation to meet, White House says

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/08/trump-accepts-kim-jong-uns-invitation-to-meet-white-house-says.html

Looks like war is inevitable.


#ArtOfTheDeal #17DChess
31   mell   2018 Mar 8, 5:38pm  

TwoScoopsPlissken says
Trump accepts Kim Jong Un's invitation to meet, White House says

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/08/trump-accepts-kim-jong-uns-invitation-to-meet-white-house-says.html

Looks like war is inevitable.


Totally. Orange cheeto bad! Unstable! Cali stronk! rezist!
32   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 8, 5:41pm  

Did Obama ever meet one of the Kims? NOPE.

What did Obama do when a US citizen was kidnapped by North Korea? Jack Shit,

What did Obama do when Kim Jong-Un took over? Gave him 240,000 tons of food.

Dennis Rodman had to "Do the President's Job" - "Obama didn't do Shit" his own words.
https://www.politico.com/blogs/click/2013/05/dennis-rodman-im-doing-obamas-job-163688

One of America's freakin' Basketball Players had use HIS influence to do something that Obama ought to have done.
33   Strategist   2018 Mar 8, 6:36pm  

TwoScoopsPlissken says
What did Obama do when Kim Jong-Un took over? Gave him 240,000 tons of food.

Kim ate most of it. Notice, he's always the fattest man in the room.

TwoScoopsPlissken says

One of America's freakin' Basketball Players had use HIS influence to do something that Obama ought to have done.

Rodman and Kim should make a movie....Twins 2
34   Strategist   2018 Mar 8, 7:01pm  

TwoScoopsPlissken says
Trump accepts Kim Jong Un's invitation to meet, White House says


Trump will chew up the fat little rocket man.
35   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 8, 10:22pm  

Chung, the National Security Advisor on Korea:

CHUNG: Good evening. Today, I had the privilege of briefing President Trump on my recent visit to Pyongyang, North Korea. I’d like to thank President Trump, the Vice President, and his wonderful national security team, including my close friend, General McMaster.

I explained to President Trump that his leadership and his maximum pressure policy, together with international solidarity, brought us to this juncture. I expressed President Moon Jae-in’s personal gratitude for President Trump’s leadership.


I told President Trump that, in our meeting, North Korean leader Kim Jong-un said he is committed to denuclearization. Kim pledged that North Korea will refrain from any further nuclear or missile tests. He understands that the routine joint military exercises between the Republic of Korea and the United States must continue. And he expressed his eagerness to meet President Trump as soon as possible.

President Trump appreciated the briefing and said he would meet Kim Jong-un by May to achieve permanent denuclearization.

The Republic of Korea, along with the United States, Japan, and our many partners around the world remain fully and resolutely committed to the complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula. Along with President Trump, we are optimistic about continuing a diplomatic process to test the possibility of a peaceful resolution.

The Republic of Korea, the United States, and our partners stand together in insisting that we not repeat the mistakes of the past, and that the pressure will continue until North Korea matches its words with concrete actions.

Thank you.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-republic-korea-national-security-advisor-chung-eui-yong/

Holy Shit. This is so unbelievably fuckin' YUGE. This is Kim wanting full denuclearization (since South Korea and Japan already don't have nukes no concessions are needed), understanding the US and ROK will continue military exercises (meaning he isn't going to use that as an excuse to drop his promises), and wants to meet Trump as soon as possible.

There's no way this can be spun away.

By the way, it's also no coincidence that the aluminium and steel tariffs took effect today. Don't think China didn't tell Kim he had to concede.
36   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 8, 10:24pm  

Amazing what happens when have a leader who isn't all apologetic, and suggesting Americans have to suffer, and no real improvements are possible.

But when you have an aggressive guy who negotiates tough and uses America's leverage to get shit done.

Remember, when one customer provides much of your business, and if that customer gets pissed, YOU are the one who has a major problem.

Plastic Lawn Flamingos and Windshield Wipers aren't the Spice Melange or the only reserves of Oil left.
37   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2018 Mar 8, 11:34pm  

Suck it beta male’s

Trump shows how real men handle business.
38   CBOEtrader   2018 Mar 9, 4:24am  

Notice how imminent peace w NK as negotiated by Trump is no longer news worthy.

#fakenews
39   CBOEtrader   2018 Mar 9, 5:19am  

Feux Follets says
Yup, that is why it is the first story covered on every channel and on every website this morning.


Show us the article praising Trump and I'll concede.

NK saber rattling built up over 3 decades = Trumps fault. NK gives in to Trump peace negotiations should equal enormous praise for Trump. CNN=fake news.

I certainly haven't read every news outlet this morning. Show me the praise for trump and I'll admit I mischaracterized the nature of this morning's fake news. (I don't think you can.)
40   CBOEtrader   2018 Mar 9, 5:26am  

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/morning-joe-slams-trump-for-noko-announcement-doest-want-his-family-seeing-the-porn-star-in-news/

Lol. Trump negotiates the greatest peace treaty of our times, and the left has their collective head in the gutter.

The Clinton/Bush/Obama crime ring is working in overtime to spin this.

Sorry, we are on the train to #maga w no turning back. Trump is easily the best president since JFK.

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