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He just picked a fight with the NFL and has them and the Democrats basically defending the 6-figure and millionaire players' right not to stand for the anthem.
"I'm so oppressed, I just signed a multimillion dollar contract. I just have to kneel during the National Anthem."
A private in the US Army makes $1600 a month. Is he allowed to kneel when the Anthem is played without jeopardizing his career?
The difference of course, is the private has an important job, whereas an NFL Player is just an entertainer.
"Leave the oppressed guys who make 6-7 Figures alone, Orange Douche! If the NFL wants to market itself as America's Pastime while kneeling in front of the flag (which started under a Black President, BTW), nobody should criticize it!"
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Sheesh Dan, it's a novel - not that that's a bad thing - so I'm going to take it piece by piece.
Most American spectators look on the flag as a national symbol of unity, along with the anthem, and to kneel is a sign of disrespect.
The NFL Players don't know what the fuck they're on about because they stood for the British Anthem but sad for the American One. Apparently, Britain was never a colonialist power that engaged in slavery, slaughter, etc. Just the USA?
1. They certainly have freedom of speech. However, that is tempered by being on the clock and representing a brand on national television.
Including the right to criticize and boycott speech we don't like.
2. Empathy. I'm biased against Football Bullies by nature. Too coddled by authority figures most of their lives.
It's also liberty for them to receive feedback from their actions.
4. Freedom of Thought. As much as they can process with their CTE, they have Freedom of Thought.
5. Individualism. They're free to show their individualism, like Kaepernick did when his BLM anti-white fascist 6-figure earning girlfriend pressured him to speak out.
6. Justice for all. Compared to what? Compared to 3/4 of the countries in the world, the US Court System is pretty damn honest.
7. Honest Court Systems. Yep, would be nice. Start with totally free elections of judges, free from BAR control.
8. Public awareness. Many of those cheering on the Players also think Transgender Bathrooms is the most important Human Rights violation in the World today. While happily participating in Child Labor (Coffee, Chocolate Growing) or AltLeft Terrorism. Indeed, Antifa almost certainly backs the players, while attacking Free Speech in the Streets.
9. Democracy is also undermined by wealthy elites pushing their view of things through their extremely unequal control of media and entertainment.
10. Real Patriotism is love of country and people. I doubt these Players give two shits about this.
11. Equality under the law. Lacking more for billionaire crimes than for police, IMHO. Almost everything bad law enforcement does is due to political lobbying of the wealthy. For example, packing private prisons to max capacity. Writing tickets for 65 in a 55 for insurance companies excuse to raise rates.
12. The pursuit of happiness. To entertain yourself for a few hours without extremely controversial bullshit being rubbed in your face.
13. Opposition to Terrorism. Most Terror groups have political wings designed to indoctrinate and propagandize. The NFL Players are the political wing of AltLeft Terrorism.
14. Human and Civil Rights. Too broad to comment upon without specific examples.
15. Honorable. To WW2 and pre-WW2, honorable meant never surrendering, but fighting unto death, so this is a relative term.
While you said finally, it was not the end. I meant that paragraph stated the final supporting point for that section of my response. The next paragraph was the conclusion for that section. It was not meant to indicate the final paragraph or the final section of my response.
While you said finally, it was not the end.
Verboseness is not a measure of how long a message is, but rather how needlessly long it is. My responses may be long, but they are far more concise than just about anything you will ever read. The information density is large and I do not repeat myself. My posts are exactly how long they need to be to completely support the argument I am making. Detailed problems required detailed analysis.
Even if the motivation of the players is self-serving, the message itself is correct. More importantly, the real reasons behind the opposition to their message has nothing to do with the NFL players, but rather the message itself. People would rather kill the messenger than acknowledge the truth of a message that exposes the shame of the tribe. People are too tribal. It's the human beings in the tribe that matter, not the tribal identity. This isn't the Stone Age. The Stone Age sucked. Let's stop living in it.
Since when are black community members ignoring the social issues of black communities. There are countless examples of community leaders, ministers, low-ranking politicians, charity workers, social workers, etc. vocally advocating for cultural changes, community watches, drug rehabilitation, education, and other means of fixing the various problems in poor black communities.
The NFL rehired Michael Vick, a man who tortured animals for profit. Aaron Hernandez killed somebody. Darrell Russel was a rapist. That's just the tip of the iceburg
FortWayne saysNFL has let America down by catering to liberals and that stupidity.Huh?America was built by liberals and immigrants. You're just not smart enough to understand what this country is all about. So just sit there and be quiet
NFL has let America down by catering to liberals and that stupidity.
Was built by religious conservative people, who were patriots.
Even if your statement is true, it is irrelevant whether or not someone perceives an action as a sign of disrespect. What matters is whether or not an action is intended as a sign of disrespect. Furthermore, it is utterly meaningless to talk about disrespect for a country. Country are imaginary entities. You can only show disrespect for people.
Furthermore, anyone who is more concerned with their social status than the victims of police murder, rape, and terrorism does not deserve one micron of respect. The only respectable response to the NFL protest is solidarity and concern for the problem of police crimes. It is just as offensive condemning such a gesture as it would be to condemn a gesture remembering the Holocaust victims and for the exact same reason. Such outrage shows complete disrespect for the very lives of your fellow Americans.
Imagine how disrespectful it is for cops to body slam a woman, rip her clothes off, and put their entire hands up the woman's vagina against her will. That's disrespectful.
Trivializing such a horrific atrocity is disrespectful…
I know it hurts to admit when your country does something shameful and despicable.
Before the NWSL match between the Seattle Reign and Chicago Red Stars, Rapinoe took a knee during the national anthem, while the rest of her teammates remained standing. She expressed solidarity with Kaepernick, saying that, as a gay American, she knows "what it means to look at the flag and not have it protect all of your liberties," and that "it’s important to have white people stand in support of people of color on this."
His first few remarks are anti-American, America is evil, injust, has been forever, needs to change, etc ramble..
Kaepernick wasn't known for his politics until he started dating an Anti-American, Egyptian Muslim Woman, Nessa D'iab who grew up in Saudi Arabia with modestly wealthy parents
Allah is the same God of the Christian Bible. Same source. Same origin.
Every Muslim will claim they believe the bible is scripture and that Allah is simply their name for the God of Abraham.
Quigley saysI disagree. You can't disagree. All Mohammed did was interpret the bible and preach what his ideas about God were.However the source is undeniable. Every Muslim will claim they believe the bible is scripture and that Allah is simply their name for the God of Abraham. I take plenty of issue with Islam but when you say "fuck Allah", you should know what you are saying.
God was OK with Mohammad fucking a child?
Genesis 19:30-38Lot and His Daughters30 Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains, for he was afraid to stay in Zoar. He and his two daughters lived in a cave. 31 One day the older daughter said to the younger, “Our father is old, and there is no man around here to give us children—as is the custom all over the earth. 32 Let’s get our father to drink wine and then sleep with him and preserve our family line through our father.”33 That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and slept with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.34 The next day the older daughter said to the younger, “Last night I slept with my father. Let’s get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him so we can preserve our family line through our father.” 35 So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.36 So both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their father. 37 The older daughter had a son, and she named him Moab[a]; he is the father of the Moabites of today. 38 The younger daughter also had a son, and she named him Ben-Ammi[b]; he is the father of the Ammonites[c] of today.
Ezekiel 167 You grew and developed and entered puberty. Your breasts had formed and your hair had grown, yet you were stark naked.8 “‘Later I passed by, and when I looked at you and saw that you were old enough for love, I spread the corner of my garment over you and covered your naked body. I gave you my solemn oath and entered into a covenant with you, declares the Sovereign Lord, and you became mine.
Why do you refuse to learn something new?
FortWayne saysWas built by religious conservative people, who were patriots.Your both wrong. The country was built by slaves.
Show the evidence or stop spreading such anti-American lies
Rest of America was built by Americans.
Furthermore California, Texas, and many other states were built by Spain and then Mexico so pretty much everything you believe is wrong.
All we were talking about is which nationalities built America. Who had the fucking title because of what treaty has no purpose in that discussion.
Free speech is bad when Kaep kneels during a national anthem
This is Kaepernick's first Press interview. His first few remarks are anti-American, America is evil, injust, has been forever, needs to change, etc ramble.. When finally asked specifically what "Police Brutality" he refers to, he hesitates and after a few moments of stuttering comes up with something about cops getting paid leave (meaning, that in the period while the cop hasn't been charged with anything, while it's still be determined what actually happened and if any procedures/policies were violated, the government shouldn't be paying it's salaried employees - a ridiculous demand).He mentions People of Color and Police Brutality against People of Color (that French term, as nobody says "Paints or Crayons of Color". The correct translation would be "Colored People", but th...