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The Prick does it again.

By TwoScoopsOfWompWomp following x   2017 Sep 23, 6:13pm 7,674 views   194 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


He just picked a fight with the NFL and has them and the Democrats basically defending the 6-figure and millionaire players' right not to stand for the anthem.

"I'm so oppressed, I just signed a multimillion dollar contract. I just have to kneel during the National Anthem."

A private in the US Army makes $1600 a month. Is he allowed to kneel when the Anthem is played without jeopardizing his career?

The difference of course, is the private has an important job, whereas an NFL Player is just an entertainer.

"Leave the oppressed guys who make 6-7 Figures alone, Orange Douche! If the NFL wants to market itself as America's Pastime while kneeling in front of the flag (which started under a Black President, BTW), nobody should criticize it!"

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155   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Sep 26, 8:20pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

TwoScoopsMcGee says
The NFL rehired Michael Vick, a man who tortured animals for profit. Aaron Hernandez killed somebody. Darrell Russel was a rapist. That's just the tip of the iceburg


And yet, the fans did not have a moral coniption about these transgressions, yet they were clearly triggered by the flag and the anthem. So, what does it say about these fans' moral compass or lack thereof?
156   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Sep 26, 8:20pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Please rename this thread to:
2Scoops Wipes the Floor with Paid Democrat Shills

Thank you.
157   FortWayne   ignore (2)   2017 Sep 26, 8:49pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

Was built by religious conservative people, who were patriots.

errc says
FortWayne says
NFL has let America down by catering to liberals and that stupidity.


Huh?

America was built by liberals and immigrants. You're just not smart enough to understand what this country is all about. So just sit there and be quiet
158   Dan8267   ignore (3)   2017 Sep 26, 10:04pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote        

FortWayne says
Was built by religious conservative people, who were patriots.


Your both wrong. The country was built by slaves.
159   TwoScoopsOfWompWomp   ignore (2)   2017 Sep 26, 10:56pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Here's the first part of my response. I'm gonna address it all before I respond to anything more or I'll never catch up. Some Dan remarks I'm responding to are just blockquoted because I had to cut and paste to/from Word in order to work better. I tried to be point by point.


Even if your statement is true, it is irrelevant whether or not someone perceives an action as a sign of disrespect. What matters is whether or not an action is intended as a sign of disrespect. Furthermore, it is utterly meaningless to talk about disrespect for a country. Country are imaginary entities. You can only show disrespect for people.


This is like Thatcher’s “There is no such thing as society”, which I don't believe is a correct assessment of humanity. You certainly can tell from body language, architecture, food, shared beliefs, etc. when you are in an area where one society dominates, and when you are in another. You don’t need to be an anthropologist to figure out when you are in Northern China vs. Northern Europe vs. New England. Even if you were inside a shopping mall and everybody was wearing a mask with generic contemporary decoration and construction.

I dispute the "symbols don't matter" claim. The way the protest is made illustrated that "America" was the target, not just cops. The symbol that is targeted for action is a great indicator of the actual motivation. Bipedal Savannah Apes organize into tribes, have unifying symbols that represent shared concepts or beliefs, and they regard attacks on them as an attack on the tribe. This is why it’s laughable when NFL bigwigs try to say it’s unity to kneel during the anthem, when it’s a clear sign of deliberately opposing it by perverting the traditional ritual of standing. It's like Satanists saying the Black Mass is just a way to demand attention from the Catholic Church, when it's a deliberate slight.

This is the reason the Taliban blew up the Buddha Statues, the USSR detonated the Swastikas on the top of Reich buildings and made films of it that the public instantly grokked the moment they saw them (Germans, English, Russians, Siberians, even Chinese and Japanese could get what happened just by watching the Swastika be blown up - the Soviets took Berlin), Romans marched with Fasces in front of their consuls, people put Crosses on top of tall hills, why the Nazis made the French surrender at the Forest of Compiègne, etc. All Savannah Apes understand the use of symbols and what targeting them is meant to indicate. In modern grievance circles, the US Flag and the US Anthem is regarded as Racist, Evil, and of course representing Whiteness, Slavery, etc.

I don't think of cops right away when I see the US Flag or hear the Anthem, I think of America generally, followed by the military (I envision the raising of the flag on Iwo Jima in my mind), followed by Independence Day, Fireworks, etc.


Furthermore, anyone who is more concerned with their social status than the victims of police murder, rape, and terrorism does not deserve one micron of respect. The only respectable response to the NFL protest is solidarity and concern for the problem of police crimes. It is just as offensive condemning such a gesture as it would be to condemn a gesture remembering the Holocaust victims and for the exact same reason. Such outrage shows complete disrespect for the very lives of your fellow Americans.


I’m not hearing about these kinds of acts from the Protesters. At first, it was about vague bad things that cops do to Blacks (specifically in relation to Blacks, and not everybody), then it was a response to Trump (and that's when all the players started jumping in in big numbers), and now it’s become a catch-all for the Culture War. This is what I believe has happened, whether that was the original intent was debatable, but it’s gone well beyond cops in the public perception, IMHO.

Imagine how disrespectful it is for cops to body slam a woman, rip her clothes off, and put their entire hands up the woman's vagina against her will. That's disrespectful.

That depends on the context. If she was wearing a bomb vest at the time, you can violate her to her uterus. If she was just a drunk, cop must be punished very severely. It’s very contextual.

Trivializing such a horrific atrocity is disrespectful…

I’m just not hearing the protesters refer to these kinds of acts, or any specific act as a rallying cry (ie "Remember Tawana Brawley"). They seem to have some vague grudge against cops that also touches on “Americanism”, hence their target symbols.

I know it hurts to admit when your country does something shameful and despicable.


And the shameful rate of Black Homicide? How about the celebration of gangsters and criminals across black culture, even including Middle Class Blacks with Professional Parents living in the Burbs? This isn’t whataboutery; it’s pointing out that Blacks are happy to demonize the Police (which most view as a “White” organization even if some cops are Black or Hispanic) and spend lots of time on the subject, while most avoid any Black responsibility for their Sky High (even compared to many 3rd world countries) Homicide rate. When they do acknowledge Black Homicide, that too is somehow put on America.

I’d guess the ratio of songs and other references to Bad Cops vs. Condemnation of Black-on-Black Violence is like 20:1. In the old days, it was the opposite, you heard more gripes about Violence within the Ghetto than griping about police – back when the police were far worse than today. Black subculture celebrates criminality, drug dealing, pimping, and "regulating" gang competitors, so unsurprisingly it spends a lot of time demonizing cops.

A decadent movement, once the problem is solved – say, having more black cops – it just can’t stop. Because adherents would have to move on to other problems that reflect badly upon themselves rather than external factors. So you get every more extreme and often inarticulate rather than specific demands. Abstract demands of “Fix Police Culture” instead of specifics like “More Black Cops”. More on this later…
160   TwoScoopsOfWompWomp   ignore (2)   2017 Sep 29, 10:05am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

This is Kaepernick's first Press interview.




His first few remarks are anti-American, America is evil, injust, has been forever, needs to change, etc ramble..


When finally asked specifically what "Police Brutality" he refers to, he hesitates and after a few moments of stuttering comes up with something about cops getting paid leave (meaning, that in the period while the cop hasn't been charged with anything, while it's still be determined what actually happened and if any procedures/policies were violated, the government shouldn't be paying it's salaried employees - a ridiculous demand).

He mentions People of Color and Police Brutality against People of Color (that French term, as nobody says "Paints or Crayons of Color". The correct translation would be "Colored People", but that former PC word is now considered very insulting, because no reason. I0'st also deliberately dehumanizing Whites, excluded from that term but everybody else included), showing his concern is primarily racial. Kaepernick wasn't known for his politics until he started dating an Anti-American, Egyptian Muslim Woman, Nessa D'iab who grew up in Saudi Arabia with modestly wealthy parents

The next person to join him were a handful of other Ethnic Cohorts. Then a white female Lesbian.
Before the NWSL match between the Seattle Reign and Chicago Red Stars, Rapinoe took a knee during the national anthem, while the rest of her teammates remained standing. She expressed solidarity with Kaepernick, saying that, as a gay American, she knows "what it means to look at the flag and not have it protect all of your liberties," and that "it’s important to have white people stand in support of people of color on this."



It soon extended to Black Power salutes and encompassed mostly Black Athletes.


It began as ethnic gripe on behalf of "People of Color" and "Past injustices", was embraced in a Social Justice pile-on to "oppressed gays" meaning people who are blessed to make a living playing professional Soccer, and eventually embraced the Black Power Salute:

So from the beginning this was centered on Anti-Americanism and the AltLeft , not on alleged Police Brutality, with the sole example given by the first Player that cops get paid leave when under an investigation to see if they followed procedures. As usual, the AltLeft and the Ethnic Gripe Industries ignore the fact that America was one of the first countries to recognize gay marriage and prohibit discrimination against gay people.

The "Police Brutality" Kaepernick probably had in mind was Jeronimo Yanez, that White Bastard, over the death of Philando Castille. Yanez was found not guilty by a jury of his peers, he shot Castille who refused to obey his orders and made jerky movements after announcing he had a firearm; THC was found in his bloodstream.

The moral of this story should be "Don't DWI, and especially not with your family in the car" rather than "Fucking Cops!"
161   Dan8267   ignore (3)   2017 Sep 29, 11:09am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote        

TwoScoopsMcGee says
His first few remarks are anti-American, America is evil, injust, has been forever, needs to change, etc ramble..


It is not evil to oppose terrorism directed against ethnic groups, or terrorism of any kind whatsoever.

More importantly, regardless of what you think of the NFL players, the message that criminal cops need to be brought to justice before honest courts rather than getting paid vacations and never answering to a court is still a good message, and important one, and absolutely the morally right thing.

The messenger is irrelevant. All the matters is the message.
162   Quigley   ignore (0)   2017 Sep 29, 2:43pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

TwoScoopsMcGee says
Kaepernick wasn't known for his politics until he started dating an Anti-American, Egyptian Muslim Woman, Nessa D'iab who grew up in Saudi Arabia with modestly wealthy parents


Is there ANYTHING that the fucking Muslims won't ruin?
Fuck Allah
163   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Sep 29, 8:38pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

he shot Castille who refused to obey his orders and made jerky movements after announcing he had a firearm; THC was found in his bloodstream.

The moral of this story should be "Don't DWI, and especially not with your family in the car" rather than "Fucking Cops!"

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Show the evidence or stop spreading such anti-American lies
164   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Sep 29, 9:57pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

TwoScoopsMcGee says

His first few remarks are anti-American, America is evil, injust, has been forever, needs to change, etc ramble..


Modern age entitlement these days. People who make millions complain about the system. Maybe he should go live in some other country for a change, to get a frame of reference.
165   Ceffer   ignore (1)   2017 Sep 29, 10:53pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

The last time I reasoned, it gave me a tremendous headache. Reasoning is overrated.
166   FortWayne   ignore (2)   2017 Sep 30, 11:30am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

That was in the south, cotton fields. Rest of America was built by Americans.

Dan8267 says
FortWayne says
Was built by religious conservative people, who were patriots.


Your both wrong. The country was built by slaves.
167   TwoScoopsOfWompWomp   ignore (2)   2017 Sep 30, 12:39pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

errc says
Show the evidence or stop spreading such anti-American lies


Already went to Court. Not Guilty on all counts, by a jury of his peers. Maybe he should have been tried by brain damaged millionaire professional sportsmen.
168   Quigley   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 7, 5:22am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

The FACT is that Mexico has always been a colony of Europe with a largely plantation-style economy. Wealthy land owners controlled that country before and after every so-called "revolution," and they still do. Why else would we see so goddam many Mexicans immigrating North for decades and decades? Use your minds!
169   BlueSardine   ignore (2)   2017 Oct 7, 5:44am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Free speech is earned. When kap completes 20% of his 5 yd passes then he will have earned free speech
joeyjojojunior says
Free speech is bad when Kaep kneels during a national anthem
170   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Oct 7, 8:36am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

TwoScoopsMcGee says
This is Kaepernick's first Press interview.




His first few remarks are anti-American, America is evil, injust, has been forever, needs to change, etc ramble..


When finally asked specifically what "Police Brutality" he refers to, he hesitates and after a few moments of stuttering comes up with something about cops getting paid leave (meaning, that in the period while the cop hasn't been charged with anything, while it's still be determined what actually happened and if any procedures/policies were violated, the government shouldn't be paying it's salaried employees - a ridiculous demand).

He mentions People of Color and Police Brutality against People of Color (that French term, as nobody says "Paints or Crayons of Color". The correct translation would be "Colored People", but th...


But Kaepernick wears a Castro shirt in honor of him. How does Cuba treat black people?

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