PBS series: The Vietnam War
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PBS series: The Vietnam War

By justme following x   2017 Sep 28, 11:35am 580 views   7 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    

I'm just wondering, are you all watching? I think tonight might be the last episode. I have found the series very enlightening, and it may serve as good antidote to the incessant war-mongering that has become the modus operandi of Washington ever since they left Vietnam in 1975.

At the time, I thought that the US would learn from their murderous mistakes, but very quickly they got back on track.

1   jazz_music   ignore (2)   2017 Sep 28, 11:38am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

justme says
but very quickly they got back on track.

... for more lucrative capital gains and emerging markets at the expense of taxpayer and lives of patriotic teenagers who don't see any good options after high school. (mostly from the south)
2   justme   ignore (0)   2017 Sep 28, 11:46am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

"In order to save the village (implied: from the communists), we had to destroy it"

Sounds a lot like the way we are busy saving cities all over Iraq and Syria. We destroy them, and kill 100s of thousands of people in the process. So that they can be saved.
3   jazz_music   ignore (2)   2017 Sep 28, 11:53am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

It's hard to watch for my generation. Many of us who recall those days are moved to tears on every episode and what's even worse is seeing how the set up was put in place for what this country has now become. Steadily creeping oligarchy and the primary instrument of world oppression. The countries we "help" we quietly bring to their knees using the bankers and our other forces.

We can all work towards a broader awakening so that the people take it back again. Great pain will be realized, but the people have the real power. Propaganda can be defeated. We still have the internet. What we don't have is the will to govern ourselves.
4   HEY YOU   ignore (7)   2017 Sep 28, 2:39pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

I've lived with the Stupid Republican & Democrat Vietnam & all the other military adventures.It was a weapon testing laboratory.
We've been in some war all my life.
I hope we get into nuclear conflagration & this warmongering country gets a taste of what America has done to other countries,where we have no right to be,but worse.
A few severe radiation burns on warmongers' children & grandchildren might get their attention.

Don't Die in WW3, suffer a long,painful,miserable life.
5   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (1)   2017 Sep 28, 2:42pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

In a world where there is a large industry complex selling weapons, generating profits and jobs, what is the chance that lasting peace will take place?
6   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (1)   2017 Sep 28, 2:43pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

It's like for profit medicine. We are using market forces to optimize for something we don't want.
7   BayAreaObserver   ignore (1)   2017 Sep 29, 1:39am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Before we were great we were good.

Before we were great our mothers and “fathers brought forth a new nation dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal”
That was before we were great.

Before we were great we welcomed the world, asking for their “tired, their poor, their hungry.”
That was before we were great.

Before we were great we “had a dream” and “conducted our struggle on the high plane of dignity and discipline.”
That was before we were great.

Before we were great we “asked not what our country could do for us, but what we could do for our country.”
But that was then, before we were great.

Gayle Samuels

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