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11   Ceffer   ignore (1)   2017 Sep 30, 6:59pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

The SJW mayor is just mad because the oversight groups aren't letting the el corruptos sequester the aid to line their own pockets, so they aren't even transporting it.
12   Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Sep 30, 7:58pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

joeyjojojunior says
Well, Trump obviously didn't know that, or he would have realized that when a cat 4 hurricane devastates an island, roads are impassable and it would be impossible for trucks to go anywhere. And he would have had contingency plans in place.


Why would that be Trump's issue. Doesn't PR have a governor and legislature and know they are in the path of hurricanes and should have disaster plans?

Oh wait, it's a Dem governor, so it's someone else's fault and he needs to be bailed out.
13   Strategist   ignore (0)   2017 Sep 30, 8:12pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

joeyjojojunior says
me123 says
Yes because everyone knows 10,000 containers move themselves when 80% of truck drivers don't show up.


Well, Trump obviously didn't know that, or he would have realized that when a cat 4 hurricane devastates an island, roads are impassable and it would be impossible for trucks to go anywhere. And he would have had contingency plans in place.


Trump the God should have known that, but not the idiots in Puerto Rico? What good are those dumb Puerto Rican politicians? Why can't they clear up the roads? Oh wait....must be the union rules not to work after a hurricane.
14   joeyjojojunior   ignore (1)   2017 Sep 30, 8:14pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

me123 says
Why would that be Trump's issue. Doesn't PR have a governor and legislature and know they are in the path of hurricanes and should have disaster plans?


Of course--why would it be the President of the United States issue to help US citizens after a hurricane destroys the island they live on.
15   FortWayne   ignore (0)   2017 Sep 30, 9:10pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

If only Trump could wave a magic wand and fix everything in a day right?

You people have some seriously strange expectations. There is plenty of aid, but no truck drivers to deliver it. US navy is there, our aid is there. Any volunteers to truck drive it here? Even Puerto Ricans aren't volunteering, anyone here interested? Job requisitions are open. They haven't even filled relief jobs for Texas yet.

I know, Democratic party underlings will always blame the Republican president regardless of fault.
16   Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Sep 30, 9:45pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

joeyjojojunior says
help US citizens after a hurricane destroys the island they live on.


PR has a 12% unemployment rate before the hurricanes. There are plenty of people sitting on their asses that could be helping fix their own country.

But, hey, let's blame Trump for not climbing into a 18 wheeler and delivering supplies himself. Is that what Rachel Maddow would tell you?
17   iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Sep 30, 9:48pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

TwoScoopsMcGee says
Why can't Trump completely repeal and replace the crumbling infrastructure of a post-Cat 4 Hurricane bankrupt "Commonwealth" overnight?


What's your definition of administrator again? Executive?

Do you even know why he's president?
18   anonymous   ignore (4)   2017 Sep 30, 10:28pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Stupid sensationalism.

Trump did his job:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/food-fuel-and-medical-supplies-slowly-distributed-across-puerto-rico-1506622283
Liberal media won't report that though. They'd rather put that pissed off bitch mayor who blames everyone for her own faults. America isn't doing enough for her, Trump isn't doing enough for her, you are not doing enough for her.
19   TwoScoopsMcGee   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 1, 12:08pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

me123 says
But, hey, let's blame Trump for not climbing into a 18 wheeler and delivering supplies himself. Is that what Rachel Maddow would tell you?


The PR Truckers Union is actually complaining about Volunteer Truck Drivers arriving from Florida.
20   iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 1, 12:27pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (2)     quote      

iwog says
What's your definition of administrator again? Executive?

Do you even know why he's president?


Fascinating that I get dislikes on simple and valid questions like this.

Is ducking out during a disaster and playing golf effective administration in your view?
21   TwoScoopsMcGee   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 1, 12:32pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

iwog says
What's your definition of administrator again? Executive?


I know administrators and executives usually aren't expected to conjure infrastructure out of the Aether, or brush aside a Commonwealth's government.

I would think an executive of the biggest city of a place in the midst of a crisis would help organize relief efforts instead of wearing novelty T-shirts and giving interview after interview on TV bashing the President while standing in front of pallets of food and water taller than she is. I also expect an executive to aggressively work with all groups to solve a problem. Some executives have yet to set foot in the FEMA Command Center, the nexus of all aid and relief. What do you expect from a party operative and panderer and posturer and a terrorist apologist?

10,000 containers are there. Marines - apparently the only people with chainsaws on the island - are clearing roads. Most reports have most of the primary and many of the secondary roads clear for traffic.
22   iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 1, 12:35pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (3)     quote      

TwoScoopsMcGee says
So an administrator has to completely replace the entire infrastructure of the area or he sucks, right?


Nope. straw man. Pathetic.

TwoScoopsMcGee says
I would think an executive would help organize relief efforts


He was organizing relief efforts from the golf course?

TwoScoopsMcGee says
10,000 containers are there.


This turned out to be fake news. Who confirmed it was fake news do you ask? FEMA. As I've said many times, almost nothing you believe is real. Also once again FOX confirms itself as the most ridiculous news agency in human history.

On Friday morning, Deputy FEMA Administrator Daniel Kaniewski told CNN that the containers in the San Juan port likely hold retail goods and not hurricane relief supplies.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/fema-insists-containers-sitting-san-211637902.html
23   joeyjojojunior   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 1, 12:46pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

TwoScoopsMcGee says
I know administrators and executives usually aren't expected to conjure infrastructure out of the Aether, or brush aside a Commonwealth's government.


No--of course FEMA never has to work out infrastructure issues. Usually after a hurricane hits, infrastructure is in pristine condition.

They are NEVER expected to deal with impassable roads or power outages or local citizens who can't get to work. Why would anyone ever think to have plans for such a contingency??
24   FortWayne   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 1, 12:59pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

That loud mouse mayor chick... why isn't she organizing trucks to deliver aid that US brought over from mainland? She's a mayor, she's responsible for local stuff, her job isn't to hurl insults at the president. She's incompetent, doesn't even understand her job, qualified for nothing more than being a maid.
25   TwoScoopsMcGee   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 1, 1:07pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

iwog says
This turned out to be fake news. Who confirmed it was fake news do you ask? FEMA. As I've said many times, almost nothing you believe is real.

On Friday morning, Deputy FEMA Administrator Daniel Kaniewski told CNN that the containers in the San Juan port likely hold retail goods and not hurricane relief supplies.


CNN is Fake News?! The 10,000 number comes from CNN and NPR, and the source is the Veep of Shipping Company Crowley .
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/27/us/puerto-rico-aid-problem/index.html http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/09/28/554297787/puerto-rico-relief-goods-sit-undistributed-at-ports
NPR has a long quote from another mayor who drove the maximum distance away from San Juan and arrived there from another town - no blockage that completely prevented traffic.
Not everyone believes roadways are the problem. Roberto Ramirez Kurtz is the mayor of Cabo Rojo in southwestern Puerto Rico, which is about as far away from San Juan as you can get on the island — a 2 ½ to 3-hour drive.

He says more than 5,000 homes were completely destroyed in his town, and people are running out of water and insulin. But aid and resources, "they're staying in San Juan," he says.

Kurtz was in San Juan to ask for help, and having made the trip himself, he doesn't believe that road conditions are an obstacle. "The roads are open," he says. "I've been able to come here. So why haven't we used this to [transport goods] west?"

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/09/28/554297787/puerto-rico-relief-goods-sit-undistributed-at-ports
FEMA also said the Containers have been distributed to Regional Warehouses.

So either scenario isn't Trump's fault. If the Containers are distributed to regional warehouses, the FEMA and the Military are going above and beyond the job.
If there are too many Containers to distribute because workers are refusing to work, that's a primarily Commonwealth problem that Commonwealth Officials must solve. Perhaps the Mayor of San Juan should do fewer interviews and be more active about relief efforts, like maybe visit the FEMA Command Center one time, days after the storm.

As for the author, Carolina Moreno, we should be careful about how she's twisting an omitting, given her self description as somebody interested in "Latino Issues" and "Diversity advocate". In fact she mentions repeats diversity in her brief bio.. Her pre-storm story was about Womyn and "People of Color" (Colored People) being removed from history. So I'll take her reporting with a massive shovelful of salt.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/author/carolina-moreno
One reason to be skeptical, I find it hard to believe a HuffPo "Diversity" advocate is the only one on this story, and she could very well be selectively quoting the FEMA Director.
https://www.google.com/search?q=FEMA+containers&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjv8afUmtDWAhUFGpAKHRvDAfsQ_AUICygC&biw=1365&bih=675
Here is the only article not by Moreno that I can find in a quick Google Search discussing FEMA on the containers. Officials say they are being distributed, and the ones in port are other owners:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/amberjamieson/aid-in-puerto-rico-ports?utm_term=.wmXAoXL09#.xsexojd2A
Notice the much more even handed treatment, including mentioning that the goods are being distributed in a myriad of ways and that disaster relief items were per-positioned before the storm, things Moreno "forgets" to mention in her urge to blame Amerikkka and Whitey, and is trying to blame the President and PR Governor probably to protect fellow AltLeft traveller, Mayor Cruz.

Both the Yahoo! and HuffPo articles have the same author, Moreno, who is clearly grinding an axe.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/fema-insists-containers-sitting-san-211637902.html
I apologize for trusting CNN and NPR.
26   iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 1, 1:07pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

FortWayne says
That loud mouse mayor chick... why isn't she organizing trucks to deliver aid that US brought over from mainland? She's a mayor, she's responsible for local stuff, her job isn't to hurl insults at the president. She's incompetent, doesn't even understand her job, qualified for nothing more than being a maid.


After reading about the 10,000 containers waiting in port being a lie, (confirmed by FEMA itself) I no longer trust any news coming out of the area. I think this is going to be politicized light years away from getting any nuanced understanding of the disaster and both sides will key into whatever fake news supports their agenda.

The only thing I know for sure at this point is that Donald Trump was sucking his own dick on twitter and golfing and taking another vacation when a string of hurricanes made US territory a bull's eye. This cannot be disputed no matter how far up Trump's ass you have your head.
27   iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 1, 1:08pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

TwoScoopsMcGee says
CNN is Fake News?! The 10,000 number comes from CNN and NPR, and the source is the Veep of Shipping Company Crowley .


Are you seriously attempting to contradict FEMA now?????? REALLY????

Who knew Trump was such a liar? Anyway I'm glad I was able to clarify your misinformation but I doubt you care.
28   joeyjojojunior   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 1, 1:10pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

TwoScoopsMcGee says
If there are too many Containers to distribute because workers are refusing to work, that's a primarily Commonwealth problem that Commonwealth Officials must solve


wtf is wrong with you. "Refusing" to go to work? A fucking hurricane just devastated the island. Ever think perhaps they CAN'T make it to work??
29   TwoScoopsMcGee   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 1, 1:13pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

iwog says

After reading about the 10,000 containers waiting in port being a lie,


That word flows too easily from your lips.

The VP of Crowley and the reporters quoting him mistakenly assigned all 10,000 containers in port as belonging to FEMA.

Moreno deliberately left out key quotes from FEMA further clarifying that aid had been directly shipped to regional centers, because she's probably part of Operation Katrina Smear. Or that aid had been cleverly and properly Pre-Positioned prior to the Storm.

Again, my apologies for not being skeptical enough of CNN and NPR (and, apparently, CBS).
30   iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 1, 1:14pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

TwoScoopsMcGee says
That word flows too easily from your lips.
The VP of Crowley and the reporters quoting him mistakenly assigned all 10,000 containers in port as belonging to FEMA.
Moreno deliberately left out key quotes from FEMA further clarifying that aid had been directly shipped to regional centers, because she's probably part of Operation Katrina Smear. Or that aid had been cleverly and properly Pre-Positioned prior to the Storm.
Again, my apologies for not being skeptical enough of CNN and NPR (and, apparently, CBS).


Do you even care what's true anymore?
31   joeyjojojunior   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 1, 1:15pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

iwog says

Do you even care what's true anymore?


He stopped caring when Trump starting running for President.
32   FortWayne   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 1, 1:18pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

joeyjojojunior says
iwog says

Do you even care what's true anymore?


He stopped caring when Trump starting running for President.


No, It's you and iwog who stopped using your intellect after Trump was elected and decided to blame him for everything.
33   iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 1, 1:20pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

FortWayne says
No, It's you and iwog who stopped using your intellect after Trump was elected and decided to blame him for everything.


So what's your definition of administrator again? I must have missed it. Is it playing golf? Going on vacation?
34   FortWayne   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 1, 3:22pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

joeyjojojunior says
No--of course FEMA never has to work out infrastructure issues. Usually after a hurricane hits, infrastructure is in pristine condition.

They are NEVER expected to deal with impassable roads or power outages or local citizens who can't get to work. Why would anyone ever think to have plans for such a contingency??


FEMA doesn't run local government, it is local government that is supposed to know what is where. You would expect your local police captain to police the area and know where issues are, not CIA right?
35   iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 1, 3:55pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

FortWayne says
FEMA doesn't run local government, it is local government that is supposed to know what is where. You would expect your local police captain to police the area and know where issues are, not CIA right?


Seriously why don't you shut the fuck up sometimes and actually try to learn something??

Wages in Puerto Rico are HALF what they are in the poorest state in the union. FUCKING HALF! So tell me again how the local government is supposed to spend all that money on modern power plants and modern flood control and modern communications and a big police force?

You love them being second class. You jack off to keeping Puerto Rico as an imperial possession neither having the right to determine their own destiny or having the right to US federal protections.
36   Sniper   ignore (8)   2017 Oct 1, 5:54pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

iwog says
Wages in Puerto Rico are HALF what they are in the poorest state in the union. FUCKING HALF! So tell me again how the local government is supposed to spend all that money on modern power plants and modern flood control and modern communications and a big police force?


They had $72 BILLION they pissed away, why wasn't that spent on those projects.

Now they want a bailout from the mainland, typical Dem antics and lack of personal responsibility, right?
37   Fucking White Male   ignore (2)   2017 Oct 1, 7:16pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

We should be providing Puerto Rico the same Federal financial support we provide any US state.

I have no reason to believe we are not. I do however believe Democrat politicians are intentionally creating a political shitshow to make it look like President Trump is non responsive.

And that would be par for the course for Democrats.
38   joeyjojojunior   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 1, 7:22pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Fucking White Male says
I have no reason to believe we are not. I do however believe Democrat politicians are intentionally creating a political shitshow to make it look like President Trump is non responsive


Because you only believe things that conform to your view. It makes life much easier, huh?
39   anotheraccount   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 1, 7:28pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

TwoScoopsMcGee says
Again, my apologies for not being skeptical enough of CNN and NPR (and, apparently, CBS).


Come on Thunderlips. You used to have credibility. By blindly defending Trump over everything now, you've lost it, at least for me. Remember that Goldman Sachs wrote the tax plan. Tell me how it's good for the middle class again.
40   HEY YOU   ignore (7)   2017 Oct 1, 7:39pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

What's funny is that Republicans in Texas & Florida think they will get enough from the Republican Administration & Congress to help them recover.
41   FortWayne   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 1, 8:09pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

iwog says
FortWayne says
FEMA doesn't run local government, it is local government that is supposed to know what is where. You would expect your local police captain to police the area and know where issues are, not CIA right?


Seriously why don't you shut the fuck up sometimes and actually try to learn something??

Wages in Puerto Rico are HALF what they are in the poorest state in the union. FUCKING HALF! So tell me again how the local government is supposed to spend all that money on modern power plants and modern flood control and modern communications and a big police force?

You love them being second class. You jack off to keeping Puerto Rico as an imperial possession neither having the right to determine their own destiny or having the right to US federal protections.


We've been asking them to become a state, they choose not to. No one is keeping them anything. What's with your anti American propaganda.
42   anonymous   ignore (4)   2017 Oct 2, 6:10am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

I wonder how many rounds of gold obama played.... lol
43   Quigley   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 2, 9:00am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Puerto Rico was a fucking mess.
And then the hurricane hit.
Never trust Leftists.
They don't care about truth, only harming their political opponents.
These people are so sick in the head, they were hoping that PR would be another Katrina. When the administration neglected to conform to that narrative, they found an idiot cunt who would lie and obstruct things to make the situation more Katrina-like.
Sick assholes!
44   TwoScoopsMcGee   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 2, 9:22am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

tr6 says
Come on Thunderlips. You used to have credibility. By blindly defending Trump over everything now, you've lost it, at least for me. Remember that Goldman Sachs wrote the tax plan. Tell me how it's good for the middle class again.


I'm sorry, I believed NPR and CNN and MY credibility is down?

I guess I wasn't sufficiently skeptical, I'm sorry.
45   iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 2, 10:16am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Quigley says
Never trust Leftists.
They don't care about truth, only harming their political opponents.


That's a fascinating statement considering the threads created this morning about Las Vegas.
46   Quigley   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 2, 10:21am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

iwog says

That's a fascinating statement considering the threads created this morning about Las Vegas.


Glad you're taking an interest. I noticed you didn't disagree though!
47   iwog   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 2, 10:24am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Quigley says
iwog says

That's a fascinating statement considering the threads created this morning about Las Vegas.


Glad you're taking an interest. I noticed you didn't disagree though!


You want a nuanced reply devoid of any politics?

Never trust radical leftists and CERTAINLY never trust radical right wing Trump supporters who desperately want every shooting to be evidence of either Antifa-type terrorism or Islam.

Also although you took what TSMG at face value, the agency that broke the fake news 10,000 containers story was FOX, not CNN.

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