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The real deal on Puerto Rico

By FortWayne following x   2017 Oct 1, 1:09pm 183 views   10 comments   watch   quote     share  

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/01/puerto-rican-ceo-sends-engineers-to-help-fema-efforts-calls-local-pols-inept.html
It's their inept local government, they are incompetent, incapable, worthless corrupt bureaucrats. It's why that crazy chick yells so much at Trump.

This isn't US or Trumps fault, local incompetent bureaucrats just don't accept responsibility for their own incompetencies. It is why US aid is coming to Puerto Rico, but not getting from US through local authorities to the people. This is why liberals need to stop electing SJW's who have no competency to get anything done.

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1 iwog   2017 Oct 1, 1:11pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
FortWayne says
It's their inept local government, they are incompetent, incapable, worthless corrupt bureaucrats. It's why that crazy chick yells so much at Trump.


I'd like your explanation why Republicans refuse to allow them to apply for statehood and refuse to allow them to be independent.

Is it that you simply hate freedom? You're a racist? Honestly give your best answer. (but we both know you aren't going to answer)
2 FortWayne   2017 Oct 1, 1:16pm   ↑ like (3)   ↑ dislike (3)     quote        
iwog says
FortWayne says
It's their inept local government, they are incompetent, incapable, worthless corrupt bureaucrats. It's why that crazy chick yells so much at Trump.


I'd like your explanation why Republicans refuse to allow them to apply for statehood and refuse to allow them to be independent.

Is it that you simply hate freedom? You're a racist? Honestly give your best answer. (but we both know you aren't going to answer)


Republicans offered them State Hood back in the 80's. Democrats screamed injustice and didn't let the resolution pas the committees.
In the 90's it didn't pass as Puerto Ricans voted against it.
In 2017 due to low voter turn out it still hasn't passed.

But you should know that, so you are just as usual... posturing around picking pointless arguments. I'm disappointed in your iwog, that's more of Dan's tactics, I really thought you were classier than that.
3 TwoScoopsMcGee   2017 Oct 1, 1:16pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
FortWayne says
It's their inept local government, they are incompetent, incapable, worthless corrupt bureaucrats. It's why that crazy chick yells so much at Trump.


Puerto Ricans know this.

iwog says
I'd like your explanation why Republicans refuse to allow them to apply for statehood and refuse to allow them to be independent.


The last referendum was conducted right after PR declared Bankruptcy this year. In stark contrast to other referendums in the 60s through the 90s, where Statehood was well behind Commonwealth Status or None of the Above (ie Status Quo). Independence has always had single digit support.

Puerto Rico will have to come out of bankruptcy before the statehood process can begin. When they weren't bankrupt, they could have voted yes but didn't. It's a belated "Change of Heart".
4 iwog   2017 Oct 1, 1:18pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
FortWayne says
Republicans offered them State Hood back in the 80's.


This is a lie. Citation please.

FortWayne says
In the 90's it didn't pass as Puerto Ricans voted against it.


This is also a lie. A three-way referendum is not a vote for statehood. Bill Clinton won the presidency with well under 50% of the vote.

FortWayne says
In 2017 due to low voter turn out it still hasn't passed.


This is your biggest lie yet. As always, I can prove it with a simple link.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/11/532482957/puerto-rico-votes-on-statehood-though-congress-will-make-final-call
5 FortWayne   2017 Oct 1, 1:20pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
iwog says
FortWayne says
Republicans offered them State Hood back in the 80's.


This is a lie. Citation please.


Try:
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=42243
Or just wikipedia if it's hard to read elsewhere...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statehood_movement_in_Puerto_Rico
I still remember the speech Reagan gave on it. And we all believed that they will be a state soon. But it didn't pass a congressional committee.
6 iwog   2017 Oct 1, 1:22pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
FortWayne says
Try:
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=42243


You just linked a statement by Ronald Reagan as proof that "Republicans offered them State Hood back in the 80's."

This is absurd. Did you know that the president can't offer Puerto Rico statehood? Do you even care? Reagan also said he was going to stop deficit spending and he ran up the national debt TRIPLE what had accumulated the prior 200 years.
7 FortWayne   2017 Oct 1, 1:23pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
iwog says
FortWayne says
Try:
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=42243


You just linked a statement by Ronald Reagan as proof that "Republicans offered them State Hood back in the 80's."

This is absurd. Did you know that the president can't offer Puerto Rico statehood? Do you even care?


You didn't read the second link? Try reading Iwog, past first sentence...
8 iwog   2017 Oct 1, 1:25pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
FortWayne says
You didn't read the second link? Try reading Iwog, past first sentence...


So clearly the first link is bullshit so you're directing me to the second link.

Please quote anywhere within the second link that supports your claim. I'll wait.
9 TwoScoopsMcGee   2017 Oct 1, 1:30pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
iwog says
This is also a lie. A three-way referendum is not a vote for statehood. Bill Clinton won the presidency with well under 50% of the vote.


The latest referendum this year was boycotted by all major Parties in the CW. It literally used the word "Colony" on the ballot. It also had the lowest percentage turnout of any referendum in Puerto Rico's history. And was the first one ever where statehood won the most votes.

Thank God Congress has the power to admit states or not. "We're bankrupt. Time to go from Commonwealth to Statehood! Ahorra, los Yanquis, Pagan Nuestra Cuentas!"
10 iwog   2017 Oct 1, 2:11pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
TwoScoopsMcGee says
The latest referendum this year was boycotted by all major Parties in the CW. It literally used the word "Colony" on the ballot. It also had the lowest percentage turnout of any referendum in Puerto Rico's history. And was the first one ever where statehood won the most votes.


That's not the point I was making. The point was that FortWayne lied because your side lies constantly.

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