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MOST LIKELY another example of far left terrorism

By CBOEtrader following x   2017 Oct 2, 6:35am 3,207 views   285 comments   watch   quote     share  

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/02/us/gallery/las-vegas-shooting/index.html
Notice none of the MSM outlets will mention that this man is a well known leftist activist. Make no mistake, this leftist narrative of hate is not only allowed to run rampant through our political discourse, BUT is sold to the soft brains of the ignorant as virtuous. As long as this continues, violence will continue.

Speak out against the false narrative of racism, against the fake news manifesting the KKK/Nazi boogeyman, and against any group who virtuously signals for violence against others. Today's radical left are the Nazi's of our era.

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241 errc   2017 Oct 9, 10:05am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
You are hearing what you want to hear rather than the truth. This is confirmation bias of your identity politics.

—————-

Seems to be a much more accurate description of yourself. Seems you are projecting. And ignorant. I have no “identity politics “. Can you say the same?

I thought we’re supposed to wait for evidence, rather than to jump to conclusions, and form opinions based on nothing more than your feels.

Do you consider ISIS trustworthy?
242 me123   2017 Oct 9, 10:32am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
errc says
The FBI said that Paddock and the Las Vegas shooting has no connection to ISIS

I side with America


Is that the same FBI that has been searching for Russian collusion for 15 months along with 16 other intelligence agencies, but still doesn't have any evidence? But we should believe the FBI statement that they came out with in less that 24 hours on the shooter, even though all other news reports claim this guy was a ghost, with virtually no history?

That FBI??
243 me123   2017 Oct 9, 10:34am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
errc says
Right. No known connection. Do you disagree with the FBI? Do you know something that the FBI does not?


The guy who rails nonstop about the justice dept and the war on drugs is now a FBI flag waver.

You can't make this shit up.
244 errc   2017 Oct 9, 10:37am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
me123 says
errc says
Right. No known connection. Do you disagree with the FBI? Do you know something that the FBI does not?


The guy who rails nonstop about the justice dept and the war on drugs is now a FBI flag waver.

You can't make this shit up.


And all you Trumpcucks are carrying water for ISIS. Yuck
245 anonymous   2017 Oct 9, 10:45am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
CBOE Since when is an ISIS inspired terrorist = to a well known leftist activist?

Do you think any ISIS inspired terrorist would kill only American republicans and let go or spare American democrats? Has there ever, once, in the history of radical Islam been an instance where the Republicans were killed and the Democrats let go?

I know you will see this question, so please try to answer.
246 iwog   2017 Oct 9, 10:54am   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
CBOEtrader says
Lol, keep sticking your head in the sand.


Well hello! Nice to see you back.

So how did you determine that this was a well known leftist activist again? I must have missed your explanation.
247 iwog   2017 Oct 9, 10:57am   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
CBOEtrader says

Did a group of venetians, who have a record of claiming their own at a high accuracy rate, claim him?


I'm going to presume that you never went to college. A challenge to prove a negative is a well known classical fallacy that despite numerous attempts to educate you on the subject, you stubbornly refuse to acknowledge. Why do you keep doing it?
248 CBOEtrader   2017 Oct 9, 11:59am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
You are still missing the point.

The FBI was making a statement of ignorance "we don't know nuttin" a few hours after the event. Of course they didn't know anything at the time.

The FBI's statement at 8 am Monday morning, before they even had time to drink their coffee, does not in any way contradict ISIS's claim.
249 me123   2017 Oct 9, 12:09pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
CBOEtrader says
The FBI's statement at 8 am Monday morning, before they even had time to drink their coffee, does not in any way contradict ISIS's claim.


As of today, the FBI is still asking the public for any information for the motive of the shooter, but they know with 100% accuracy, it's not ISIS related less than 24 hours after the shooting.
250 anonymous   2017 Oct 9, 2:23pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
CBOE said...The FBI was making a statement of "we don't know nutting"

Which further calls into question your statement he is
1. Well known
2. Leftist Activist
3. MSM won't report it.

Please explain how you came to the conclusion he was WELL KNOWN when the FBI is still asking for leads.
251 Dan8267   2017 Oct 9, 8:32pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
me123 says
Dan8267 says
Does anyone here actually believe that CBOEtrader is right that the Las Vegas shooter was an ISIS operative? Please come forth now so we have a list of fools on the record.


Do you have any verifiable proof that he 100% wasn't. Please post it.


I don't have any verifiable proof that you 100% don't rape dead goats.
252 Dan8267   2017 Oct 9, 8:40pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
CBOEtrader says
Can't tell if you are lying or stupid.


You are lying and stupid.

CBOEtrader says
Mn't tell if you are lying or stups guy was MOST LIKELY anti-trump.


A meaningless statement. The probability that he was anti-Trump is either 100% or 0% and nothing in between. He either was or was not. Events either happen or do not. The only meaningful property is that of repeatable events occurring at known ratios. A specific person being anti-Trump is not a repeatable event.

You are asserting bullshit simply because you need him to be a part of the opposing team instead of your team. Well, then if he turns out to be a part of your team, then by your own analysis, your team is evil.


CBOEtrader says
I am saying ISIS is a legit THEORY.


No, that's not what you said. You said it was a certainty that he was ISIS and cited several pieces of propaganda to support your ideology despite all investigators stating that such rumors are baseless and harmful to spread.

CBOEtrader says
So, to be clear, dans position is "zero % chance" of radicalization.


I never stated anything remotely like that. ISIS is evil and has brainwashed a lot of people. But there is absolutely no reason to believe this person is one of them and every reason to believe that isn't so. He does not remotely fit the profile. No investigator thinks he's connected to ISIS.

CBOEtrader says
That is pure ignorance based on identity politics.


And what exactly do you with your small brain think my identity politics are?

Don't go accusing others of identity politics to cover up your despicable identity politics.
253 FortWayne   2017 Oct 9, 8:47pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Government in CA is left wing terrorism, a cruel abuse of human beings.
254 errc   2017 Oct 9, 8:52pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
anonymous says
CBOE said...The FBI was making a statement of "we don't know nutting"

Which further calls into question your statement he is
1. Well known
2. Leftist Activist
3. MSM won't report it.

Please explain how you came to the conclusion he was WELL KNOWN when the FBI is still asking for leads.


For the nth time, BECAUSE ISIS TOLD HIM SO

YES, ISIS LOVES HIM
YES, ISIS LOVES HIM
YES, ISIS LOVES HIM!!!
THE BIBLE TELLS HIM SO
255 iwog   2017 Oct 9, 8:56pm   ↑ like (3)   ↑ dislike (3)     quote        
This thread is fucked up.

Trump people, y'all need to be better than this. Raw stupidity isn't a virtue.
256 anonymous   2017 Oct 9, 8:58pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
The delicious irony in this case is paddock appears not to have any political ideology whatsoever. He appears to not have voted in 2016 2012 or 2008. There are conflicting reports about whether he registered in 2004 as democrat or republican - but no confirmation he voted even then.

In the word of his brother he had "No strong religious or political positions he was "just a guy". Meaning the notion the guy was a political activist or suffering from TDS is absurd.

He is like 60-80 percent of this country who is not a slave to political infotainment and likely went to his grave never having ever heard of "identity politics". You all hope to someday be as blissfully free of political nonsense as he was.
257 errc   2017 Oct 9, 9:01pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
You all hope to someday be as blissfully free of political nonsense as he was.

———————

Amen.
258 CBOEtrader   2017 Oct 9, 9:17pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Dan8267 says
You said it was a certainty that he was ISIS

Proof that Dan is a liar
259 CBOEtrader   2017 Oct 9, 9:21pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
iwog says
Why do you keep doing it?


I haven't done that once. Keep fooling yourself if you like.

ISIS is known for claiming caliphates w a high degree of accuracy. They claimed Pollock. Therefore, radicalization is a legit theory, and nothing more.

That's is the topic, atm. Do you disagree w any assertion above?
260 CBOEtrader   2017 Oct 9, 9:33pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Dan8267 says
If at this point you still think it's ISIS behind the shooting, you're a fucking idiot.


LOL, except every expert disagrees with you.

Dan8267 says
The probability that he was anti-Trump is either 100% or 0% and nothing in between.


Proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that Dan doesn't understand statistics
261 CBOEtrader   2017 Oct 9, 9:35pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Dan8267 says
Don't go accusing others of identity politics to cover up your despicable identity politics.


I'm looking at the only facts available, whereas you are denying any possibility of ISIS radicalization. Admit there is a legit chance he was radicalized, ya know, because there is MORE than a zero % chance that ISIS's claim is accurate.
262 me123   2017 Oct 9, 9:54pm   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
Dan8267 says
me123 says
Dan8267 says
Does anyone here actually believe that CBOEtrader is right that the Las Vegas shooter was an ISIS operative? Please come forth now so we have a list of fools on the record.


Do you have any verifiable proof that he 100% wasn't. Please post it.


I don't have any verifiable proof that you 100% don't rape dead goats.


Dan expressing his love of farm animals again when he loses an argument.

Checkmate (again)
263 me123   2017 Oct 9, 9:56pm   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
CBOEtrader says
Dan8267 says
The probability that he was anti-Trump is either 100% or 0% and nothing in between.


Proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that Dan doesn't understand statistics


But he does understand sex with farm animals.
264 iwog   2017 Oct 9, 11:06pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
CBOEtrader says

ISIS is known for claiming caliphates w a high degree of accuracy. They claimed Pollock. Therefore, radicalization is a legit theory, and nothing more.

That's is the topic, atm. Do you disagree w any assertion above?


Yes I dispute your incorrect claim that ISIS "Has a high degree of accuracy" (especially lately) and I'll prove it:

- ISIS claimed credit for a June attack that killed 37 people at a casino in Manila, Philippines but it ended up being an indebted gambler.
- ISIS claimed credit for bombs on a British Airways flight at Charles de Gaulle Airport in September, but there were no bombs.

http://www.businessinsider.com/rodrigo-duterte-isis-was-not-behind-manila-casino-attack-that-killed-36-2017-6
https://trumpfranchise.org/isis-claim-they-planted-bombs-in-charles-de-gaulle-airport-leading-to-evacuation-of-uk-bound-jet/

So yeah. You're fucked up. You're wrong. Your assertions are unsupportable and furthermore you keep asking people to prove a negative. Finally you're apparently so incredibly frightened that you can't answer a question put to you 20 times:

How did you determine that this was a well known leftist activist again?

What are you so afraid of?
265 Dan8267   2017 Oct 10, 12:20am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
CBOEtrader says
Dan8267 says
You said it was a certainty that he was ISIS

Proof that Dan is a liar


You do realize these posts are recorded, right?

CBOEtrader says
Listen to the experts. Leftist terror activist, possibly even an ISIS connection are both very legit theories.

The lone wolf crazy guy theory doesnt quite fit


CBOEtrader says
iwog says

Nope, it's pretty clear that you consider braggadocio by ISIS to be evidence


It is evidence. It is not definitive and they may indeed be lying. It is still evidence that has yet to be contradicted.


CBOEtrader says
When ISIS claims credit, what % of time do you suggest they are lying?

20%? 30%? 50%?!!!

A theory that is 50% accurate would still be the most likely theory we have.

I advise you away from career paths involving statistics.


CBOEtrader says
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/353518-terror-experts-puzzled-by-isis-claim-in-las-vegas-attack
"Experts who track the group [ISIS] closely say that when it comes to attacks in the West, if ISIS is claiming responsibility, there typically was some kind of connection between the perpetrator and the group."


CBOEtrader says
FortWayne says
He's either Muslim or leftist. Those are the crazy once constantly hating America for it's freedoms.


careful. The TDS sufferers will point out your lack of verbal qualifiers, take this as a definitive statement and pedantically accuse you of being a liar.

Watch...


CBOEtrader says

I am saying ISIS is a legit THEORY. Perhaps even the best theory we have regarding an ambiguous situation.


CBOEtrader says
PCGyver says
CBOEtrader says
I am saying ISIS is a legit THEORY. Perhaps even the best theory we have regarding an ambiguous situation.


Yet you present no evidence.


You didnt read the thread. ISIS claimed him. Their claims have a track record of accuracy.

For ex: http://www.denverpost.com/2016/07/27/isis-clamied-attacks-worth-reading-closely/ "Many have lampooned the Islamic State as an organization keen to claim each and every terrorist attack around the world, but analysts say it has a vested interest in being accurate. “*They’re careful about it*. They couch their terms a bit,” said Berger. “If they can credibly insert themselves into the narrative around an attack, they win, essentially.”


CBOEtrader says
So when a group that has a "highly disciplined" track record claims this man as a caliphate, that equals legit evidence to support the theory.


CBOEtrader says

The FBI was making a statement of ignorance "we don't know nuttin" a few hours after the event. Of course they didn't know anything at the time.

The FBI's statement at 8 am Monday morning, before they even had time to drink their coffee, does not in any way contradict ISIS's claim.


You have made your batshit crazy theories quite clear. You have also made it clear that you have no idea what evidence is. An anonymous person claiming to represent ISIS making an unsubstantiated statement about the shooting is not evidence. Nor do you have any idea how math or statistics works if you think you can just pull numbers out of your ass and call them gold.
266 PCGyver   2017 Oct 10, 5:08am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
CBOE you do realize Alex jones is just an actor. He is just playing a part to make money. I see you buy into it hook, line, and sinker.

http://www.businessinsider.com/lawyer-alex-jones-infowars-playing-character-acting-2017-4
267 CBOEtrader   2017 Oct 10, 5:49am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Dan8267 says
Dan8267 says
You said it was a certainty that he was ISIS
Dan8267 says

CBOEtrader says
Listen to the experts. Leftist terror activist, possibly even an ISIS


Dan proving he both doesn't understand English and thinks in black/white terms. According to psychologists, this is a mental flaw that most people outgrow by the age of 4
268 CBOEtrader   2017 Oct 10, 5:52am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
iwog says

Yes I dispute your incorrect claim that ISIS "Has a high degree of accuracy" (especially lately) and I'll prove it:


This wasn't my claim. It is the analysis from people who study ISIS.

No one has ever claimed ISIS is always correct, hence the possibly ISIS statement.

Your claim otoh is that there is NO chance of ISIS. You are choosing to ignore reality
269 iwog   2017 Oct 10, 9:34am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
CBOEtrader says
This wasn't my claim. It is the analysis from people who study ISIS.


Here we go again!! Weeeeeeeeeeeeee!!

Link someone who studies ISIS making the statement that their responsibility claims have a high degree of accuracy.

Also how did you determine that this was a well known leftist activist again?

Now you've pulled two things square out of your ass that you can't defend and can't support and will refuse to talk about.
270 me123   2017 Oct 10, 9:42am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
iwog says
Now you've pulled two things square out of your ass that you can't defend and can't support and will refuse to talk about.


Kinda like you falsely accusing another poster of making bomb threats against Roberto and making false allegations about doxxing you?

Like pulling those two out of your ass that you can't defend or support?
271 TwoScoopsMcGee   2017 Oct 10, 9:47am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Meanwhile, it just came out that the shooter initiated his attack after the security guard checked a nearby room.

So Campos didn't make the Shooter panic by knocking on his door - the previous theory - it made him initiate it sooner. Which is why Paddock didn't fully use all his equipment in haste.
273 Dan8267   2017 Oct 10, 11:10am   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
CBOEtrader says
Dan8267 says
Dan8267 says
You said it was a certainty that he was ISIS
Dan8267 says

CBOEtrader says
Listen to the experts. Leftist terror activist, possibly even an ISIS


Dan proving he both doesn't understand English and thinks in black/white terms. According to psychologists, this is a mental flaw that most people outgrow by the age of 4


Honey, you made the claim "ISIS is responsible for the Las Vegas shooting" out to be the only plausible explanation. Every person on the planet knows that claiming certainty about an empirical statement does not mean the same thing as it being mathematically impossible for the empirical statement to be false. It means that it is unreasonable to consider the statement to be false.

For example, we are all certain that we don't live in a VR simulator ran by a computer in a giant space hamster's ass. Can we prove that we're not all simulations inside an alien computer inside the ass of a giant space hamster? Of course not. Such a possibility would be logically and empirically consistent. Nonetheless, we say that we are certain we don't live in a hamster's ass. You were making such a claim. Now that it's becoming obvious that the shooter had nothing to do with ISIS or the left, you are trying to back out of that claim, but you are not doing so honestly.

You tried to make the entire left look guilty by association, but honey, this guy stinks of the right wing. He's a rich, old white man with a gambling problem and an arsenal of guns. The only way he could get more right-wing is if he fucked his sister, his wife left him, he lost his dog, and his pickup truck broke down and he wrote a country song about it.

You are also proof that the conservative right is not one bit different from the conservative left in any way that matters. Both are tribal, dishonest, hateful, and stupid. As more information comes out about the shooter, it will become more apparent just how much your tribe sucks and what fucking hypocrites all you alt+right propagandists are. You spread maliciousness rumors in the hopes that even after the rumors are discredited, the negative feelings you generated about the competing tribes will linger. There is not an honest bone in your body, and you do the country a great disservice by spreading lies to further your identity politics.
275 CBOEtrader   2017 Oct 10, 11:44am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Dan8267 says
You are also proof that the conservative right is not one bit different from the conservative left


I'm a liberal. I've never voted for an R or D, only libertarians
276 CBOEtrader   2017 Oct 10, 11:45am   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Dan8267 says

Honey, you made the claim "ISIS is responsible for the Las Vegas shooting" out to be the only plausible explanation.


Bzzzt. Wrong. I stated it is a legit theory w a chance greater than zero. It is most likely far greater than zero given ISIS history of relative accuracy of their claims.
277 CBOEtrader   2017 Oct 10, 11:46am   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Dan8267 says
Honey,


Why are you communicating like an IHOP waitress? Dan, bro, you have issues.
278 Dan8267   2017 Oct 10, 2:10pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
CBOEtrader says
I'm a liberal. I've never voted for an R or D, only libertarians


You are clearly not a liberal, and although libertarians pay lip service to liberty, in practice few libertarians are actually liberals. Case example, the Koch brothers.

CBOEtrader says

Bzzzt. Wrong. I stated it is a legit theory w a chance greater than zero. It is most likely far greater than zero given ISIS history of relative accuracy of their claims.


First of all, it's not a theory. It's a conjecture. Second, what the fuck is the difference between a "legit" conjecture and an "illegitimate" conjecture? All conjectures turn out to be either correct or incorrect. One could easily conjecture that the shooter was a closeted alt+right supporter who was making a statement that real men use guns. One could also conjecture that the shooter wanted to prevent the next Hitler from rising to power, so he killed lots of people at a casino because he believed the parents of that future Hitler was there and he was going to retroactively abort the conceived child terminator style. There is no more reason to buy your conjecture than either of these two or an infinite number of other conjectures.

What you did was claim to have compelling evidence when you actually had no evidence, compelling or otherwise. You submitted rumor and innuendo as evidence, and they are not. Once more, you have only furthered spreading baseless rumors and needless divisiveness. You actions are no different than any of the brainwashed alt+right persons who blamed the shooting on innocent people and on ISIS just to make a political gain.

ISIS is plenty evil. You don't have to resort to distorting the facts to make the case that ISIS should be ended even using considerable lethal violence.

CBOEtrader says
Dan8267 says
Honey,


Why are you communicating like an IHOP waitress? Dan, bro, you have issues.


I'm being condescending to you. If you don't like that, stop giving me reasons to be condescending.
279 WookieMan   2017 Oct 10, 3:01pm   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
TwoScoopsMcGee says

It is rather astounding that someone could live to mid 60's and this (not these altered ones, the original) is the best photo the media could find for what seemed like a couple days. I get not everyone has facebook, etc, but seriously? I'm not going down conspiracy theory rabbit holes, but it does seem weird.
280 Dan8267   2017 Oct 10, 4:49pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
I think he looks quite stunning in the third photograph.

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