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MOST LIKELY another example of far left terrorism

By CBOEtrader following x   2017 Oct 2, 6:35am 3,254 views   285 comments   watch   quote     share  

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/02/us/gallery/las-vegas-shooting/index.html
Notice none of the MSM outlets will mention that this man is a well known leftist activist. Make no mistake, this leftist narrative of hate is not only allowed to run rampant through our political discourse, BUT is sold to the soft brains of the ignorant as virtuous. As long as this continues, violence will continue.

Speak out against the false narrative of racism, against the fake news manifesting the KKK/Nazi boogeyman, and against any group who virtuously signals for violence against others. Today's radical left are the Nazi's of our era.

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41 CBOEtrader   2017 Oct 2, 3:16pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Dan8267 says
Admitting that the right is every bit as vile as the left and for the exact same reason


As far as human nature goes this is accurate. The difference is the massive support for righteous violence coming from the extreme left today.

You will find similar righteousness in the blinded heart of right wing terrorists as well. Dyllan Roof most likely thought he was fighting the good fight as well. Within tiny pockets of righteous idiocy you certainly find this on the right. However, the massive MSM and institutional support for righteous violence from the left dwarfs that nonsense as compared to today's rightwing. Show me a rightwing example of Berkeley. Show me a university where the professors encourage violent activism against the left and MAYBE you'd have a point.
42 CBOEtrader   2017 Oct 2, 3:31pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Dan8267 says
It's time to talk about gun control.


These guns are already illegal to own privately. That didn't stop this guy. Neither would making all guns illegal, or perhaps you haven't noticed Europe lately.

There is a direct correlation between LEGAL gun ownership rates and lower crime rates. Although TBF, there are at least a few other factors at play. Areas of larger legal gun ownership have fewer blacks as well as smaller population per sq mile. % of blacks in an area is the highest correlated variable to murder rates, BY FAR. Therefore in areas of high black population %, gun control may be the egg whereas blacks and their murder rates are the chicken (see Baltimore, DC, Chicago, Detroit, etc...)
43 jazz_music   2017 Oct 2, 3:36pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
CBOEtrader says
blacks and their murder rates


Could be Irish too if you keep them from getting decent jobs
44 CBOEtrader   2017 Oct 2, 3:40pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
jazz_music says
CBOEtrader says
blacks and their murder rates


Could be Irish too if you keep them from getting decent jobs


The data disagrees with you. Poor latino/white/Asian communities have a fraction of the violent crime rates as black neighborhoods.

In fact, you can get pretty darn close to estimating the murder rate of cities, states, and even countries just based on their % of black population. I'm not pretending to know the answers but the data is very easy to access and model. All over the world, higher black % of population directly correlates to higher murder rates.
45 jazz_music   2017 Oct 2, 3:54pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
CBOEtrader says
The data disagrees with you.


When the Irish arrived in America and they were denied equality, basic needs went unmet, voila! the data were different. How about that?

Therein lies the point.

Color is never a factor.

There is nothing unusual about "these people."
46 Dan8267   2017 Oct 2, 3:59pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
FortWayne says
He's either Muslim or leftist. Those are the crazy once constantly hating America for it's freedoms.


And if you're wrong about that will you admit to it?
47 Fucking White Male   2017 Oct 2, 4:02pm   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
Lemme quote Jazz music:

"I don't care about no stats."
48 Strategist   2017 Oct 2, 4:06pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
jazz_music says
CBOEtrader says
The data disagrees with you.


When the Irish arrived in America and they were denied equality, basic needs went unmet, voila! the data were different. How about that?

Therein lies the point.

Color is never a factor.

There is nothing unusual about "these people."


Is this an example of ...... denial?
Don't you want to solve the problem? How can you when you deny the problem exists?
49 KimJongUn   2017 Oct 2, 4:09pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
jazz_music says
When the Irish arrived in America and they were denied equality, basic needs went unmet, voila! the data were different. How about that?

Therein lies the point.

Color is never a factor.

There is nothing unusual about "these people."

50 FortWayne   2017 Oct 2, 4:29pm   ↑ like (3)   ↑ dislike (3)     quote        
And if I'm right, will you admit to it?

Dan8267 says
FortWayne says
He's either Muslim or leftist. Those are the crazy once constantly hating America for it's freedoms.


And if you're wrong about that will you admit to it?
51 CBOEtrader   2017 Oct 2, 5:43pm   ↑ like (3)   ↑ dislike (3)     quote        
jazz_music says
CBOEtrader says
The data disagrees with you.


When the Irish arrived in America and they were denied equality, basic needs went unmet, voila! the data were different. How about that?

Therein lies the point.

Color is never a factor.

There is nothing unusual about "these people."


You are showing your brainwashing. I never said there was something inherently different about "these people" (your quote, not mine). I am merely pointing out statistics.

I personally think its a cultural issue, exacerbated by the welfare plantation system.

Although lower IQ levels and a general inherent tendency towards violence should at least be researched as theories IF ONLY to debunk them and find an answer to the problem. You cant make a case for this being a poverty problem. Poor communities of other cultural groups have no where close to the black community's violent crime rates.

Regardless all of this is besides the point. THE POINT was that legal gun ownership rates are correlated to lower murder rates, although we are unsure if there is causation.
53 Strategist   2017 Oct 2, 7:16pm   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
CBOEtrader says
I personally think its a cultural issue, exacerbated by the welfare plantation system.

Although lower IQ levels and a general inherent tendency towards violence should at least be researched as theories IF ONLY to debunk them and find an answer to the problem. You cant make a case for this being a poverty problem. Poor communities of other cultural groups have no where close to the black community's violent crime rates.


I think Jazz is pointing out "racism" as being the primary problem. He does have a point, but racism is not the primary problem as can be seen by President Obama being elected twice. It is just one of the problems.
They could research everything you mentioned, but that is taboo, and will no doubt lead to accusations of racism. Even Blacks who forcefully criticize the negatives of Black society are immediately shut down by Blacks and liberals. We have a serious problem with the Black community, but it's the Black community that won't face facts, and go into denial as can be seen from Jazz's response. Ironically, it hurts the Black society the most.
I think the solution lies with the Black community, and no one else.
55 KimJongUn   2017 Oct 2, 7:36pm   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
iwog says
this comment has been jailed for incivility


Wait a second here: how come I don't see a "mark as uncivil" button but somebody else apparently has it available for him?

@Patrick
56 iwog   2017 Oct 2, 7:36pm   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
CBOEtrader says
Notice none of the MSM outlets will mention that this man is a well known leftist activist.


Is this a lie or not?

What is your source?
57 me123   2017 Oct 2, 7:38pm   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
CBOEtrader says
iwog says
this comment has been jailed for incivility


Fine :)


iwog has some major brass balls accusing someone else of posting false titles. I've never seen such hypocricy, but then again, facts have never mattered to him, and posting false allegations is his specialty.
58 iwog   2017 Oct 2, 7:39pm   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
He marked this as uncivil. I think every word is absolutely legitimate. Are those who complain about fake news the most free to create fake news now??

Are you going to fix the fucking title or will I be able to accuse you of LITERALLY publishing fake news from now forward eternity?

I'm sure you're going to see this as being bullied by Iwog or standing up for your right to write anything you want but as it stands now you've given objective proof of extreme dishonesty in pursuit of an agenda. I suggest you don't do that.
59 KimJongUn   2017 Oct 2, 7:41pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
iwog says
He marked this as uncivil. I think every word is absolutely legitimate. Are those who complain about fake news the most free to create fake news now??

Are you going to fix the fucking title or will I be able to accuse you of LITERALLY publishing fake news from now forward eternity?

I'm sure you're going to see this as being bullied by Iwog or standing up for your right to write anything you want but as it stands now you've given objective proof of extreme dishonesty in pursuit of an agenda. I suggest you don't do that.


Does not qualify for "uncivil", IMO.
60 iwog   2017 Oct 2, 7:43pm   ↑ like (3)   ↑ dislike (3)     quote        
KimJongUn says
Does not qualify for "uncivil", IMO.


This entire thread deserves to be marked as uncivil for blatant lying.

I'll ask you again. What is your source that this man is a "well known leftist activist"?

Because right now, and I'm sure I'm not the only one that believes this, it appears you simply made it up.
61 Patrick   2017 Oct 2, 7:43pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
KimJongUn says
iwog says
this comment has been jailed for incivility


Wait a second here: how come I don't see a "mark as uncivil" button but somebody else apparently has it available for him?

@Patrick


Arg, it was a bug.

OK, can you all see the "mark as uncivil" link now? Please use it if other users are being uncivil.
62 iwog   2017 Oct 2, 7:46pm   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
Also what I wrote is mild in the context of a free speech board and not even remotely ad hominem. Also I'm still waiting for him to answer my question.

Truth matters.
63 Strategist   2017 Oct 2, 7:47pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
iwog says
KimJongUn says
Does not qualify for "uncivil", IMO.


This entire thread deserves to be marked as uncivil for blatant lying.

I'll ask you again. What is your source that this man is a "well known leftist activist"?

Because right now, and I'm sure I'm not the only one that believes this, it appears you simply made it up.


I'm sure it's just an opinion. Relax Iwog, it's a free country.
64 me123   2017 Oct 2, 7:49pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Patrick says
OK, can you all see the "mark as uncivil" link now?


No
65 KimJongUn   2017 Oct 2, 7:51pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
iwog says
KimJongUn says
Does not qualify for "uncivil", IMO.


This entire thread deserves to be marked as uncivil for blatant lying.

I'll ask you again. What is your source that this man is a "well known leftist activist"?

Because right now, and I'm sure I'm not the only one that believes this, it appears you simply made it up.


There is a blurry youtube video floating around which shows some guy in pink shirt at anti-Trump protest. The people who put it up claim that the pink guy is the shooter. The fucking video is so lo-res it's not even funny.
66 iwog   2017 Oct 2, 7:51pm   ↑ like (3)   ↑ dislike (3)     quote        
Strategist says
I'm sure it's just an opinion. Relax Iwog, it's a free country.


There is absolutely no aspect of that statement that can be interpreted as a fucking opinion!!!

CBOEtrader says
Notice none of the MSM outlets will mention that this man is a well known leftist activist.


1. It's literally slander if he was alive.
2. It's a shaming accuation at the MSM for missing what is clearly supposed to be a "well known" truth.
3. It actually cites authority since "well known activist" would imply lots of other people have confirmed this as true.

I'm going to ask again CBOE: Do you have a source for this or did you simply make it up? This is 100% a fair question.
67 KimJongUn   2017 Oct 2, 7:51pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
Patrick says
OK, can you all see the "mark as uncivil" link now? Please use it if other users are being uncivil.


Yep, can see it now.
68 iwog   2017 Oct 2, 7:53pm   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
KimJongUn says
There is a blurry youtube video floating around which shows some guy in pink shirt at anti-Trump protest. The people who put it up claim that the pink guy is the shooter. The fucking video is so lo-res it's not even funny.


You and I and everyone else already knows that a Texan country music lover with lots of guns and a hunting license cannot be a well known liberal activist. I believe CBOE even knows this which makes it worse, not better because he's wantonly perpetrating a lie.
69 Strategist   2017 Oct 2, 8:19pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
iwog says
Strategist says
I'm sure it's just an opinion. Relax Iwog, it's a free country.


There is absolutely no aspect of that statement that can be interpreted as a fucking opinion!!!


OK, call it a belief. Everyone has their own beliefs. The belief stated by CBOE is harmless, it aint gonna kill you, unlike that horrible religion called Islam.
Just have a couple of drinks with lots of tequila in it, and enjoy life.
70 iwog   2017 Oct 2, 8:27pm   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
Strategist says
OK, call it a belief. Everyone has their own beliefs. The belief stated by CBOE is harmless, it aint gonna kill you, unlike that horrible religion called Islam.
Just have a couple of drinks with lots of tequila in it, and enjoy life.


It's not a belief. It's an assertion of fact and it's a lie.
71 Strategist   2017 Oct 2, 8:36pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
iwog says
Strategist says
OK, call it a belief. Everyone has their own beliefs. The belief stated by CBOE is harmless, it aint gonna kill you, unlike that horrible religion called Islam.
Just have a couple of drinks with lots of tequila in it, and enjoy life.


It's not a belief. It's an assertion of fact and it's a lie.


It says "Most likely"

"MOST LIKELY another example of far left terrorism"

How can "Most likely" be a lie?
72 CBOEtrader   2017 Oct 2, 9:53pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
iwog says
He marked this as uncivil. I think every word is absolutely legitimate. Are those who complain about fake news the most free to create fake news now??

Are you going to fix the fucking title or will I be able to accuse you of LITERALLY publishing fake news from now forward eternity?

I'm sure you're going to see this as being bullied by Iwog or standing up for your right to write anything you want but as it stands now you've given objective proof of extreme dishonesty in pursuit of an agenda. I suggest you don't do that.


I didn't mark anything as uncivil. it was someone else.
73 CBOEtrader   2017 Oct 2, 9:54pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        
iwog says
You and I and everyone else already knows that a Texan country music lover with lots of guns and a hunting license cannot be a well known liberal activist.


Nonsense. You haven't been to texas or NC if you think this. Get out of your liberal echo chamber a bit.
74 CBOEtrader   2017 Oct 2, 10:02pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
iwog says
Strategist says
OK, call it a belief. Everyone has their own beliefs. The belief stated by CBOE is harmless, it aint gonna kill you, unlike that horrible religion called Islam.
Just have a couple of drinks with lots of tequila in it, and enjoy life.


It's not a belief. It's an assertion of fact and it's a lie.


Its the pre-eminent theory dumbass. Learn the difference.

None of us have any firsthand knowledge of this guy. The evidence suggests that he associated w known activists like his roommate, whose ex husband was also an known activist. As of 7 am this morning when I posted this, the roommate was a person of interest in the crime. Eye witnesses stated that a couple Latina and/or Asian women were going through the crowd of the concert telling people they would all be dead soon. Sound highly doubtful that he was a lone wolf gunman. Evidence suggests a conspiracy. How many far-right conspiracies involve brown Asian women and people who are roommates with staunch liberals?

Again, this is merely the best theory currently available with minimal facts available. If you have a better theory, please share it.
75 CBOEtrader   2017 Oct 2, 10:11pm   ↑ like (0)   ↑ dislike (0)     quote        


Some are suggesting this is the shooter. Unverified, ofc, but its still more evidence than anything we have for him being a simple "lone wolf".

Remember how MSM reported that the NC comet pizza gunman "liked" alex jones on FB? If there was a shred of right-wing connection for this Vegas shooter to anything right-wing, the MSM would be blaming Trump already.

The best explanation we currently have is that this guy was a left wing activist, who conspired to plan this massacre along with his leftwing friends.
76 anonymous   2017 Oct 2, 10:31pm   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
CBOEtrader

Iwog will never get a clue about anything, Iwog is Patnets worse enemy.
Who wants to read through all his relentless attacking, repeated and baseless arguments and assumptions.
This site has hit critical mass as far as new readership goes and he can single handedly
take credit for that. Good luck Patrick as long as you have Iwog particularly on your site who has zero self control
and the few other posting like psychos don't expect to much in improvement as far as new readership.

Ironman was refreshing in comparison.

CBOEtrader The few times I visit this site anymore I always appreciate your civil and well thought out post.
Not that I agree all the time but just the same.
77 jazz_music   2017 Oct 2, 10:51pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
iwog says
Truth matters.


Don't turn to patrick.net for that, turn to music, there you'll find existential truth and beauty.
78 CBOEtrader   2017 Oct 2, 10:52pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
Thanks anonymous dude :)

Here's another video

Skip to minute 5:30 wherein the concert goer tell a the story of a Latin couple telling others they would all die tonight. Her conclusion was that this woman had prior knowledge of the shooting.

Far from definitive, but evidence points towards a conspiracy of leftwing terrorists.
79 jazz_music   2017 Oct 2, 10:56pm   ↑ like (1)   ↑ dislike (1)     quote        
CBOEtrader says
The best explanation we currently have is that this guy was a left wing activist, who conspired to plan this massacre along with his leftwing friends.


Even the conspiracy theorists on YouTube have not gone there. Then there is you: out there on your limb.

How do you think you look out there genius?
80 jazz_music   2017 Oct 2, 10:57pm   ↑ like (2)   ↑ dislike (2)     quote        
iwog says
Texan country music lover


This guy may go down in history as the harshest critic of country music ever.

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