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Why are cars so ugly?

By Blurtman following x   2017 Oct 4, 5:06pm 5,055 views   54 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


Hideous.


Boring.


Junky.


Backwards.


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15   Tenpoundbass   ignore (11)   2017 Oct 5, 6:55am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Colors are licensed now, and there's a whole design consortium that decides what colors are going to be hot and available in any given year or not.
That's why when Honda comes out with a weird Turkey Shit Green, Mazda has Duck Shit Sage that looks just like it.
It's no accident that new dish set uses the same colors as the Bed Spreads in the Martha Stewart collections. She has to license every color.
If you use this years sanctioned colors it's affordable. To make all Red or all Yellow cost as much as 5X more than using the sanctioned colors.
16   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Oct 5, 7:48am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

P N Dr Lo R says
I've always thought the '67 Buick Wildcat was one of the most gorgeous designs ever:


One has to pony up a lot of cash to get that sweet pillar-less coupe look nowadays.
17   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Oct 5, 7:48am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Blurtman says
Why are cars so ugly?


So they can make a better looking version later for you to buy.
18   zzyzzx   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 5, 7:59am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Obligatory:
20   MbS   ignore (3)   2017 Oct 5, 8:12am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Because of clamoring for moar safety from stupid fucks who can't drive or be bothered to look up from their phone screen before crossing the street on foot.
21   P N Dr Lo R   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 5, 8:53am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

anonymous says
One has to pony up a lot of cash to get that sweet pillar-less coupe look nowadays.
And as pointed out in posts 13 and 14, government regulations would preclude the beautiful elements of the '67 design--the "C" pillar wouldn't survive a rollover and having no "B" pillar again reduces roof strength. The solution is to not roll over.
22   HEY YOU   ignore (7)   2017 Oct 5, 9:05am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

We need to look good while driving & pumping CO2 into the environment.
Failure to see beyond what our eyes see. CO2 in invisible.
Love your car just like everyone else,how's that slow/stopped traffic working.

947,080,000 passenger cars
Interactive chart
https://www.statista.com/statistics/281134/number-of-vehicles-in-use-worldwide/
You can't fix shallow minds.It's terminal.
24   E-man   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 5, 10:34am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

It's ugly because you're driving the wrong car. This is my ride. Proudly American made right here in Fremont, CA. I'm no longer supporting OPEC!


25   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2017 Oct 5, 10:41am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

It's ugly because it owns you.
26   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2017 Oct 5, 10:53am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Nice American looks, better than Mustang.



27   Blurtman   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 5, 4:05pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Yes, but the Challenger is a re-make, which should be the way US manufacturers go, considering their loss of any style sense (except Tesla.) But the original Challenger looks a little better. Doesn't have that honking big front/air dam, for one, and isn't as wedgy.

28   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (34)   2017 Oct 5, 4:31pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

This is why:

The designers of today aren't old enough to remember Studebaker.

1967 was the height of design because of Studebaker.

The Raymond Loewy studio that designed the cars under direct observation of the board changed every assumption about American car design.

Trying to explain anything about American automobile design without factoring Studebaker is like trying to explain jazz without considering the influence of the Gillespie bands and orchestras.
29   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2017 Oct 5, 6:39pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Studebaker had engineering integrity that the other brands did not have. Designed to last too, which is anti-capitalistic. Capitalism dictates the optimized return that come from designed obsolescence andshortened life.

Superior doesn't make it. Finally the height of the Studebaker history was the Avanti in 1964. I remember peddling my bike up to see the showroom cars when they came out with my friend and they have the floodlights shining up to the night sky.

30   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Oct 5, 7:22pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

P N Dr Lo R says
anonymous says
One has to pony up a lot of cash to get that sweet pillar-less coupe look nowadays.
And as pointed out in posts 13 and 14, government regulations would preclude the beautiful elements of the '67 design--the "C" pillar wouldn't survive a rollover and having no "B" pillar again reduces roof strength. The solution is to not roll over.


Mercedes S Coupe has it still. That car is just really pricey.
31   MAGA   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 5, 7:40pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

My second car, right after graduating from High School.


32   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (34)   2017 Oct 6, 2:53am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Imagine this car with all the paint flaked off down to the primer, peeling vinyl top, no brakes and heat and A/C and one working door.

Yeah, that's an ugly car.

And with the normally aspirated 383 a hurtling monster of sheer ANARCHY!
34   bob2356   ignore (3)   2017 Oct 6, 6:01am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HEY YOU says
We need to look good while driving & pumping CO2 into the environment.


Damn right. Styling while polluting is important. Thanks for pointing that out.
35   P N Dr Lo R   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 6, 9:04am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
Studebaker
Was first out of the factory in 1946 with an all new, modern looking model when other brands force-fed the highest priced warmed over '42 models to a car-starved public until about 1949 or 50.

These confused me when they were new, I thought they were some kind of sports car they looked so unlike anything else in the 50's:

36   MrMagic   ignore (11)   2017 Oct 6, 9:20am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag        

Cars?? What type of real man drives a car today? Ones that wear skirts Or aprons?
37   Mick Russom   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 6, 12:05pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The giant fat bumpers of today are required because when cars strike people the survival rate of the person hit goes way up if the front of the car has a higher bumper / hood. the cool pantera style or gt40 fronts look great but they are no longer seen due to requirements.

https://jalopnik.com/the-ten-worst-government-mandated-automotive-technologi-1556899133
5 mph bumpers and pedestrian impact regulations = fugly cars.
38   curious2   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 6, 12:53pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Mick Russom says
required because when cars strike people the survival rate of the person hit goes way up if the front of the car has...


Can you please cite any evidence for those two assertions, i.e. the alleged requirement and the alleged safety data? At most, I found this:

"A minimum of 20 mm (0.8 inch) of clearance is required between the underside of the hood and the highest part of the engine or any other hard point such as the windshield-wiper motor or the HVAC plenum. This raises not only the front of the hood but also its trailing edge by at least 0.8 inch."

Your jalopnik link shows a photo of a low slung Ferrari, and those cars remain on the road. In general, a higher impact point (e.g. an SUV hood) poses a much worse risk to children, and probably adults also.

Philistine says
pedestrian impact regulations have raised the hood heights...


by 2cm. Compare a Tesla and an SUV, and you'll see (a) both are legal and (b) the SUV hood is much higher and thus much more dangerous (especially to children).
39   MbS   ignore (3)   2017 Oct 6, 1:01pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

curious2 says
Mick Russom says
required because when cars strike people the survival rate of the person hit goes way up if the front of the car has...


Can you please cite any evidence for those two assertions, i.e. the alleged requirement and the alleged safety data? Your jalopnik link shows a photo of a low slung Ferrari, and those cars remain on the road. In general, a higher impact point (e.g. an SUV hood) poses a much worse risk to children, and probably adults also.


As I understand the requirement is not for the absolute height of the hood over the road but for the amount of vertical space between the hood and the engine. The rationale being that at certain collision speeds pedestrians tend to hit their heads smack in the middle ofthe hood. The remedy is either to have a hood which automatically shoots up (some cars do that) or simply higher hood which provides the necessary "crumple zone".

Sports cars can get away with having lower hoods because they either have engines in the rear or tucked inside the wheelbase.
40   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Oct 6, 5:56pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Mick Russom says
when cars strike people the survival rate of the person hit goes way up if the front of the car has a


Can you please cite any evidence for that, and these alleged regulations? I looked at your jalopnik link, which showed a photo of a low slung Ferrari. Those cars remain legal. In general, a higher impact point has a worse survival rate, especially for children, who risk getting hit in the head by an SUV.
43   Tenpoundbass   ignore (11)   2017 Oct 23, 12:34pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

My First ride pulled a whopping 15mph max up hill in the Mountains of South Carolina. It would be maxed out balls to the wall pedal to the metal.
The T Gear shift would be rattling and banging back and forth making such a hell of a racket, you would instinctively reach out to turn the radio down when you were talking to the passengers.

44   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Oct 23, 7:35pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Booger says


The things a black man has to do in the south to be accepted.
45   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Oct 23, 8:22pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

It's hard to believe the bumper thing contributes anything to Lexus' fugly predator grill. That's just some misinformed "designer."

I might buy that aerodynamics play a much greater role today when trying to squeeze out MPG or performance out of smaller displacement and fewer cylinders.
46   bob2356   ignore (3)   2017 Oct 24, 6:34am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tenpoundbass says

My First ride pulled a whopping 15mph max up hill in the Mountains of South Carolina. It would be maxed out balls to the wall pedal to the metal.


The maybe you should have waited until you could afford a better car than a model t
47   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Oct 25, 8:02am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Honda is forging a path ahead for EV aesthetics with two concept models shown below. I happen to like these designs very much, even though the Urban concept is a borrowed VW style.






48   E-man   ignore (0)   2017 Oct 25, 10:03am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        



If you're going to design a car, make it look nice. Otherwise, it's just a waste of time and resources. Learn from Tesla and design something like this.
49   anonymous   ignore (null)   2017 Oct 25, 11:38am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I don't see anything ground breaking in that Tesla design. It's very Corvette.
50   jazz_music   ignore (4)   2017 Oct 25, 12:01pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

It’s for people that feel so good lying down behind an inane metal grin and fragile enclosure that somehow gives an ironic image of strength, that they would pay the price of a decent house for the privilege. We are all invited to envy.
51   Blurtman   ignore (1)   2017 Oct 25, 2:55pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

anonymous says
Honda is forging a path ahead for EV aesthetics with two concept models shown below. I happen to like these designs very much, even though the Urban concept is a borrowed VW style.
The first looks 911-like from the side. Not bad. The second like a VW Golf. How much can you actually do with a compact hatchback?
52   zzyzzx   ignore (1)   2017 Nov 6, 10:01am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        


Now that's dedication!
54   Philistine   ignore (0)   2017 Nov 9, 6:23pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Spotted en route the other day. Sha'Kwanda at the DMV had no issue approving it, natch. (Heart) BN WHT, meanwhile, is automatically rejected on Califuckyou's online customized plate application before you can even submit it.

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